Huckabee's son arrested with handgun


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michaelbane
April 26, 2007, 05:01 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070426/ap_on_el_pr/on_the2008_trail

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - David Huckabee, a son of Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, was arrested at an Arkansas airport Thursday after a federal X-ray technician detected a loaded Glock pistol in his carry-on luggage.

"I removed the bag and asked Mr. Huckabee if he knew what he had in the bag," Little Rock police officer Arthur Nugent wrote in a report after he was summoned to a security checkpoint. "He replied he did now."

Huckabee, 26, later pleaded guilty in Little Rock District Court after being charged with a misdemeanor count of possessing a weapon in a prohibited place.

District Judge Lee Munson gave Huckabee a one-year suspended jail sentence and ordered him into 10 days of community service which Huckabee can avoid by paying $100. Huckabee will be on probation for a year. Fines and costs totaled $855.

The son of the former Arkansas governor holds a concealed weapons permit. The elder Huckabee, who said last week that Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui perhaps could have been stopped if a teacher or student had also been armed, also has a concealed weapons permit.

Neither the former governor nor David Huckabee returned telephone messages seeking comment.

Nugent said David Huckabee had a .40-caliber Glock pistol in his black carry-on bag. Eight live rounds were in the gun none in the chamber and a nine-round clip was also in the bag. The weapon and ammunition were detained by Little Rock police while David Huckabee's gun permit was seized and given to the Arkansas State Police.

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DomMega
April 26, 2007, 05:06 PM
What an idiot.

I knew he'd have a light sentence though. If anyone else did that, who's daddy wasn't a governor or running candidate for that matter, they would have for sure received jail time. That's a federal offense bringing a gun on a plane, I guess he just........oh, forgot about that.

Alas, this is a country where justice can be purchased for a fee so this story is of no surprise. $100 and he's done, and thats just if he doesn't want community service.

Run&Shoot
April 26, 2007, 05:31 PM
Well, maybe the bright side is that it will set a precedent so any one other forgetful CCWer that gets scanned will also get a reasonable slap on the wrist.

This has happened to me a couple of times with knives that I thought I had moved to my checked bag but were in fact still in my carry on backpack. The TSA scanners have been polite and informed me that I could either take them back to the check-in counter to put in my luggage, or surrender them. Seems guns should be the same thing.

Now, if you try to subvert the scanning process and are obviously attempting to get them on the plane under current regulations then yes, you should have some penalty. But if it is just forgetting that your carry piece in still in a carry on and it is easily found, then why should a gun be treated more harshly by TSA than a sheath knife?

ArmedBear
April 26, 2007, 05:51 PM
But if it is just forgetting that your carry piece in still in a carry on and it is easily found, then why should a gun be treated more harshly by TSA than a sheath knife?

True enough.

You'd have to be a real idiot to think you can "hide" a metal object in a bag that's going to get X-rayed.

It's a dumb mistake, but not something that someone with an IQ over 2 would do with criminal intent.

bosshoff
April 26, 2007, 06:13 PM
What a jackass. People like this make everyone who cares about 2nd Amendment rights look like hicks. How stupid can a guy be? It's a fricking airport! Your getting on a plane! I never understand how people get so complacent.

Happyshooter
April 26, 2007, 06:17 PM
He forgot. Who here hasn't gone for a beer after work and forgot that you still have your CCW gun in your front pocket?

yhtomit
April 26, 2007, 07:17 PM
Well, in a sane world he'd have done nothing remarkable. On Mine Own Personal Airlines, Ltd, I'd thank him for complying with our pre-flight instructions by not having a round in the chamber, and give him the armed-passenger incentive points toward his frequent flyer miles.

What's disgusting, though, is the light sentence in light of the laws under which we are *actually* living; while I agree with the posters who've said that a light sentence makes sense for innocent infractions (I really do!), but if this is the treatment one can *generally* expect, I'll go out and buy a hat to eat.

timothy

Rumble
April 26, 2007, 07:18 PM
I dunno. I've never forgotten where any of my guns were. Maybe I haven't been doing this long enough, but...forgetting your gun is kinda like forgetting the baby.

IMHO, of course.

DoubleTapDrew
April 26, 2007, 07:22 PM
That's a pretty big "Ooops" moment. I can see forgetting about a small knife or pair of scissors but a loaded G27 (what it sounds like, given the description) should be harder to miss.
Then again can't these plastic guns go right through airport x-ray machines and metal detectors like we have been told? :p

There's an easy way for CHL holders to tell if you have your gun in an airport. If you feel naked and uncomfortable, you are ok to go through security and get on that big flying coffin. If you feel normal, then you still have your carry gun on you and you need to go disarm somewhere. :)

Sharps-shooter
April 26, 2007, 07:47 PM
Sounds like a rich man's son expected to be allowed on a plane with a gun because of who his daddy is. I doubt he thought they wouldnt notice that huge gun-shaped piece of metal in his bag. I also doubt that he packed it by mistake.

Maybe it's a publicity stunt to get his daddy some attention.

fatelk
April 26, 2007, 09:02 PM
if this is the treatment one can *generally* expect, I'll go out and buy a hat to eat
I don't know what the usual penalty is for the average person, but a friend of mine had something similar happen several years ago.
He and his wife took their daughter to the airport in Portland. After she went through screening they realized she forgot her purse. The wife went to go through screening to take it to her (this was back when non-passengers could go to the gate to see someone off) and put the daughter's purse and her own through the Xray machine, forgetting about the .22 pistol in it. She didn't even have a CHL!
She got off pretty easy too. They took the gun and she got a big fine. That was before 9/11 though.

Ed
April 26, 2007, 09:52 PM
I am an average person with an IQ of over 2 and on Feb 2 this year The TSA found 2 loaded Glock 17 mags in my backpack. See, I take my pack on trips in the car too. And the week before had gone to Florida and when I got home thought I unloaded the pack. When they X-rayed it, I was as shocked as them. Now I owe the TSA $500 and probably I'm on a watch list. I am not an idiot, I just made a mistake and got caught. I don't think that I would have left a Gun without remembering, but I'm not gonna be casting stones on this one. And if he got off easy, good for him. I wish I could have. He now has a record and can't carry anymore legally. The monatary fine may be light, and I think it is compared to mine, I got it down from $1000. But my CCW would have been worse. I bet there is not a person here who wouldn't take a lesser fine be it traffic or something else. That is not his fault, it's the court.

helpless
April 26, 2007, 10:01 PM
I agree it should be no biggy, no different than scissors or a screwdriver.

but still.

Idiot.

scrat
April 26, 2007, 10:18 PM
Question. 1

If he is on probation. Does this mean he cant own or have a gun or is that just for felonies. Im sure either way it makes for some bad press

Car Knocker
April 26, 2007, 10:54 PM
Who here hasn't gone for a beer after work and forgot that you still have your CCW gun in your front pocket?
What's wrong with going for a beer with a gun in your pocket?

Car Knocker
April 26, 2007, 10:58 PM
WOW - talk about speedy justice:

"Twenty-six-year-old David Huckabee was taken into custody at Little Rock National Airport at about 6:00 a.m. A 40-caliber handgun was found in Huckabee's carry-on luggage as he was getting ready to board a plane.

By early afternoon, the former governor's son had been transported to jail, arraigned, sentenced, and allowed to go home."

http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0407/417982.html

WeedWhacker
April 27, 2007, 02:38 AM
I'd taken an 8" fixed-blade boot knife on two transcontinental flights right after 9/11 - had the thing in a carry-on I'd used to move and had forgotten about the knife.

On an intercontinental flight, loaded with jet fuel no less. The knife was also no box-cutter.

Think I have a high opinion of the TSA? Not that I think peaceable folk should have to put up with being disarmed while traveling...

paramedic70002
April 27, 2007, 07:02 AM
All it takes is for the screener to sneeze, take a sip of soda, chit-chat with a coworker, etc. No alarms are going to go off. It's strictly eyeball to screen.

XDKingslayer
April 27, 2007, 09:18 AM
This story is a farce. We already know that Glocks can't be detected by airline metal detectors.

ramis
April 27, 2007, 10:07 AM
This story is a farce. We already know that Glocks can't be detected by airline metal detectors.

Only if it's a Glock 7. :D

Lone_Gunman
April 27, 2007, 10:12 AM
What's wrong with going for a beer with a gun in your pocket?


It is illegal in Georgia to enter an establishment serving alcohol with a gun, whether you have a permit or not.

In this day and age of heightened airport security, what kind of boob "forgets" he has a loaded Glock in his carry on baggage? I mean, he had to have put it there himself, into a bag he knew he was going to take on an airplane. He must be a complete idiot. I could understand someone making a mistake with a small knife or maybe even a stray cartridge, but a loaded gun?

News Shooter
April 27, 2007, 10:20 AM
Cowboys' Switzer arrested

Airport security guards find loaded gun in carry-on bag

Barry Switzer
Associated Press
Dallas Cowboys head coach Barry Switzer faces reporters Monday in Austin to explain the circumstances surrounding his arrest.
By R.G. RATCLIFFE
Copyright 1997 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau

AUSTIN -- The Dallas Cowboys' personnel and legal troubles grew Monday as security guards arrested coach Barry Switzer for carrying a loaded revolver in his carry-on bag at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.

"I wanted to say I've embarrassed (owner) Jerry Jones and the Cowboy organization for an innocent, honest mistake that I made," Switzer said afterward.

Switzer said he threw the gun into his travel bag to hide it from three small children who had been visiting his home Saturday night. He said he forgot about it until airport personnel arrested him Monday morning.

Switzer appeared to fight back tears as he discussed the incident during a news conference at the Dallas Cowboys training camp at St. Edwards University. But he refused to take questions and snapped angrily at those who tried.

Cowboys spokesman Brett Daniels said Jones was in meetings in Dallas and was unavailable for comment. Switzer's arrest comes at a time when Jones is trying to clean up the team's "bad boy" image with everything from rules on off-limits bars to cameras in the summer camp dorms.

The coach was arrested at about 9 a.m., his .38-caliber revolver confiscated. He was released under his own recognizance about two hours later, said airport spokeswoman Angel Biasatti.

"There was no criminal intent," Biasatti told The Associated Press, pointing out that 38 handguns have been confiscated at the airport this year. "We have to arrest individuals. It's the law. Most of the time they forget that they have them at the airport. It's an unfortunate situation for Barry Switzer."

"And I look up and there are two police officers standing beside me. And I look at them and they look at me with a serious look, and all of a sudden I realize, `My God, I didn't take that pistol out of my bag.' "

Carrying a weapon into an airport is a third-degree felony, punishable by two to 10 years in jail and up to a $10,000 fine.

The Texas Department of Public Safety said Switzer is not licensed to carry a gun. State law says carrying a handgun without a permit is a Class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $4,000 fine.

Security personnel discovered the weapon in Switzer's canvas bag as he went through a Terminal 3E checkpoint, Biasatti said.

Switzer and the Cowboys were in Dallas for an exhibition game Sunday night against the Oakland Raiders, which they lost 34-27. The team had Monday off before returning to practice on Tuesday in Austin.

Switzer, 59, said he arrived at his Dallas home on Saturday to discover that he had nine house guests, three of those ages 2, 10 and 11.

"Walked into my bedroom with them all present there," Switzer said. "Saw my gun lying on the bed and couldn't understand why it was out at that time."

He said he later learned that his son, Doug, had left the gun out. Switzer said he normally keeps the gun in a drawer beside his bed.

But with the children present, he said he decided to hide the gun in his travel bag. He said he intended to put the bag in the closet, but when he was interrupted by a telephone call, he put the bag down on the bathroom counter.

"And from that moment on, I totally forgot my intentions. What I intended to do was hide the gun in the closet somewhere, while the children were home this weekend," Switzer said. He did not explain his relationship to the children.

He said he got up at 8 a.m. Monday and tried to rush to catch a 9 a.m. flight to Austin. He said he threw his toiletries into the bag.

"Put my bag in security. Went through security. Wondered why my bag had stopped," Switzer said.

"And I look up and there are two police officers standing beside me. And I look at them and they look at me with a serious look, and all of a sudden I realize, `My God, I didn't take that pistol out of my bag.' "

Switzer said he was glad to "have to live" with what happened instead of one of the children grabbing the gun. "I was more concerned about the safety of those children."

When reporters tried to question Switzer, he became visibly angry.

"I said I am embarrassed. It's an unfortunate incident. There's no need to talk about the details here," he said. "I said, we'll talk about football."

Switzer's arrest comes at a time when the Cowboys are trying to restore their image as "America's Team" and rid themselves of the jokes about being "America's Most Wanted."

Five players have been suspended for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, including two of the team's biggest stars, wide receiver Michael Irvin and defensive tackle Leon Lett. Lett currently is serving a year's suspension, his second, for drug use.

Last year, Irvin was sentenced to four years probation after pleading no contest to cocaine possession. Earlier this year, he and Erik Williams were stung by a woman's false accusations that they had assaulted her.

Williams had just completed two years probation on a drunken driving charge.

Tales of sexual improprieties by players led conservatives such as former Education Secretary William Bennett to denounce the team's "morals."

When backup wide receiver Cory Fleming pleaded guilty to a drunken driving charge just days before the 1995 season opener, Switzer said, "He's lucky this didn't happen last week, because he wouldn't be here if it had." But since the season had already begun, Switzer said Fleming was too important to the team to cut.

Switzer, whose autobiography is titled Bootlegger's Boy, has for years had his own reputation for playing fast and loose with the rules. He resigned as coach of the University of Oklahoma somewhat in disgrace after a 16-year career that included three national titles and many off-field controversies, especially in his final few seasons.

In 1994, he became the third head coach in Cowboys history and won the Super Bowl the next season. He has a 34-14 record in three years.

Team owner Jones has tried focusing attention on the field and has made headlines for his efforts.

In recent months, Jones has placed several Dallas nightclubs off-limits, reportedly released a player who violated that edict and installed security cameras in the dorms at St. Edward's to discourage curfew violations. He also hired former Cowboys star Calvin Hill as a consultant to help players deal with the fame and fortune of professional athletics.

Outlaw Man
April 27, 2007, 11:00 AM
That's a pretty big "Ooops" moment. I can see forgetting about a small knife or pair of scissors but a loaded G27 (what it sounds like, given the description) should be harder to miss.
Then again can't these plastic guns go right through airport x-ray machines and metal detectors like we have been told?
That's what the local news said last night.

I only hope if I accidentally go in a prohibited place with my CCW that I'll be released so quickly with just a slap on the wrist. I'm not holding my breath, though.

I think this fell under the jurisdiction of the Prosecuting Attorney that led the fight against expanding our castle doctrine a few months ago. I think that's what upsets me the most. Will give you a slap on the wrist if your daddy was the governor, but we want to be able to crucify you if you use a gun to defend yourself. :barf:

WeedWhacker
April 29, 2007, 02:11 AM
He must be a complete idiot. I could understand someone making a mistake with a small knife or maybe even a stray cartridge, but a loaded gun?

How about an 8" fixed-blade boot knife? See my above post. It happens. Not only that, what are we forgetting here: the lessons we refuse to learn from history, most recently from the VT murders: unarmed people are prey.

The issue isn't someone forgetting a gun in their bag. The issue is him (and us) NOT BEING ALLOWED TO TAKE IT WITH HIM (and us).

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