Interesting medical condition


April 26, 2007, 05:52 PM
So I went to an orthopedic today to ask about some knee and back pain, and got quite a shock.

Apparently, my pelvis is out of alignment, which is causing the pain in my back and knees because the muscles of your upper legs and lower back are connected to your pelvis. This explains why I feel like I'm pulling my leg muscles running full speed.

I've got PT 3 times a week for the next month, which sucks, but I can't wait to get this fixed and feel like a guy in his 20's should again.

My question to all of you is, do you think years of strong side concealed carry IWB could have caused, or exacerbated my situation? I wish I would have thought to ask the doc, but I was too busy marveling at my X-rays.

I have no intention to stop carrying, so I may have an excuse to get a second P99 :) ... Think the doc will prescribe carrying TWO guns?

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Sharps Shooter
April 26, 2007, 06:36 PM
"My question to all of you is, do you think years of strong side concealed carry IWB could have caused, or exacerbated my situation?"

I'm no doctor, but I seriously doubt it. I was an electrician for 26 years (I'm retired now) and the pouch full of tools I carried on my right hip at least 8 hours a day far outweighed any 3 handguns you're likely to be carrying. And I'm still hiking 3 days a week, 2 hour and 20 minutes a day without a problem.
Disclaimer - During my tenure as an electrician I worked with several guys who claimed the heavy tool pouch on one hip hurt their backs. They added suspenders to their tool belts and/or got tool belts with with a pouch on each side.

April 26, 2007, 07:03 PM
I had some issues about 15 years ago that turned out to be related to carrying a wallet that was just too thick. My chiropractor suggested going to a bifold instead of a trifold to thin it down some. made a big difference.

El Tejon
April 26, 2007, 07:10 PM
Dr. Badger prescribes yoga.:)

April 26, 2007, 07:14 PM
What ilBob said, except no wallet in back pocket. Same thing happened to me and a couple guys I know. Joe

April 26, 2007, 07:17 PM
Is this a real doctor, or a chiropractor who is billing himself as some sorta orthopedic specialist? Does this involve back cracking?

Pax Jordana
April 26, 2007, 09:47 PM
I have to weigh in, this being my expert medical opinion**

Your leg and abdominal muscles hold you up. I assume you weigh more than a P99. Even half of you weighs a lot more. I've heard of guns poking kidneys, and have had some abdominal soreness after a long day of my abs fighting with the hammer of my J-frame for space in my waistband, but you shouldn't be having problems with it because of your gun.

Unless it makes you sit funny, and you spend a LOT of time in a desk chair or in your car, then MAYBE.

**In pennsylvania, you need something like 180 hours of class time and a Red Cross exam to be a nurse aide

wizard of oz
April 26, 2007, 10:10 PM
I used to wonder about that also. I have carried a revolver open carry for the last couple of years with no ill effects on my back. Actually I feel more uncomfortable when I don't have it on :)

April 26, 2007, 11:13 PM
Betcha a chiropractor will differ with y'all... And he'll let you know that it'll take multiple expensive visits to "realign" everything. Golly, what a coincidence.

April 26, 2007, 11:54 PM
My dad carried a fat leather wallet in his back left pocket for 55+ years. Last year he had chronic back pain for no apparent reason, went in to see the doc and he narrowed it down to that wallet adding a focused point of pressure to the same spot for 55+ years threw somethin out of whack. My dad carries his wallet in his front left pocket now and feels quite a bit better.

SO, it's not unworldly to think something you carry around ALL the time could have a negative impact if there's no variation in the placement of said object (unless that placement is in a spot where there's no excessive focus of pressure on any given bone structure.)

April 27, 2007, 12:09 AM
Your back muscles are stronger than your abs and your thighs are stronger than your hammies and glutes. Do situps and deep squats or lunges.

I'm no expert, but what you are saying jives with what I've heard from a few people. Basically that your back muscles tug up on your pervis constantly and your quads pull down on the front, slowly over time your pelvis will rotate forward, throwing everything out of alignment

shooting time
April 27, 2007, 07:13 AM
I had the same thing happen with the wallet switched to a thin one got some chiorapractic adjustments and all was ok

April 27, 2007, 07:46 AM
If having a wallet in the back pocket can cause back problems for many individuals, I dont see why this couldnt contribute to your issues. Sounds like its time to carry extra ammo and balance yourself out...

April 27, 2007, 08:10 AM
I'm a Chiropractor and the wallet is the most likely culprit. Very common. FYI Bogie Chiropractors are doctors in the US and Orthopods can't adjust the spine but Osteopaths can. Sorry if you've had a personnel bad experience with someone in my profession.

April 27, 2007, 08:23 AM
Um,'s my wallet.

Have you guys ever seen the episode of Sienfeld where Costanza has the ridiculous wallet? That's me..just measured at 1 1/8 " thick...sit on it every day. fix.

BTW, the doctor is an Orthopedic specialist. Real doctor, no chiropracters.

12 physical therapy sessions (45min each) plus 'homework' whatever that means.

And the weak muscles the other poster reffered to is true as well. I had pneumonia for 2 months a couple years ago, and lost a lot of fat and muscle. I'll start the situps, but theres no way I'm doing squats again without an R. Lee equivalent making me.

April 27, 2007, 08:40 AM
You could always buy the R. Lee doll and stand it in front of you while working out lol...then you can hear "what is you major malfunction" over and over again... /sarcasm

April 27, 2007, 09:27 AM
Try one of these:

I've got the "Junior ALL-ETT®Billfold." It's got 10 cards in it, about 10 bills and it's only about a half-inch thick.

April 27, 2007, 10:51 AM
You seem to have an attitude, and you're misinformed about chiropractors.
"real" doctors? would those be the ones with the "RD" after thier names? come on. Regardless of of your experience or personal opinions, there are good and bad examples in all professions.

April 27, 2007, 01:07 PM
The only Chiropractor I've ever had experience with spent 20 minutes on making popping sounds come out of various points on my body, then flashed red and blue lights at me, and tried to convince me that holding certain minerals next to my face caused me to lose strength in my left arm. He did this by having me hold my arm out to the side and saying "Don't let me push your arm down." He held various rocks up to my forehead while gently pushing down on the back of my hand. He did about five and then held a green rock up to my head and then pushed my arm down to my side.
"See what?"
"You have a semi-paralysis brought on my [some mineral] resonance."
"You just pushed my arm down, that's not hard to do."
"No I didn't. I pushed just as hard as I did on the other 4 minerals, you were just weaker this time. Here, hold your arm up again." - He pretends to hang all his body weight on my arm, hands on my wrist, body position like he just finished a chin-up, feet still on the floor. "Look, I can't pull your arm down even with all my weight."
I relaxed my arm and magically he didn't fall down. Then we repeated the mineral game again, and he shocked me in the arm a couple times with a BBQ ignitor, after which he claimed I was cured and quit pushing my arm down to my side when he held the green rock up to my head.

Forgive me if I don't put any faith in Chiropractors.

robert garner
April 27, 2007, 01:20 PM
Y'all must be gettin senile!

Ever body knows that was Kryptonite! now ya gotta go get a new alter-ego again!

April 27, 2007, 01:24 PM
Wow, I can see why you have little faith. That's some pretty far out applied kinesiology he was using on you. There are many different techniques in Chiropractic and that is definitely a pretty fringe one. I knew a few folks back at school who dabbled in it but I personally never had much truck with it. The vast majority of us are muscle, joint and nerve oriented. BTW I apologize if I have hijacked the thread.

April 27, 2007, 01:25 PM
I used to get back pain fairly often...never went to anyone special to look at it, but got rid of the wallet in the back pocket and hardly EVER feel back pain any more.

Now I stick to pants with many pockets (like 5.11's, no I'm not a mall ninja, I just want the pockets). Keep the wallet in one of the thigh pockets on the front, and nothing in the rear pockets. Works out quite well.

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