ruger redhawk + cast lead


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tssievert
April 26, 2007, 08:56 PM
i just bought a ruger redhawk in 44 mag. does anyone know the right size of cast bullet for the barrel? .430 or .431? because i can get a decent deal on the .431 but i have to buy 1000 and i don't want stuck with a bunch of bullets that lead the hell out of my barrel after the first couple of shots.
also where would be the best place to find budget priced lead?

thanks


troy

ps if anyone has some 44 cases they'd like to part with i'd be interested

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fecmech
April 26, 2007, 10:07 PM
Troy--Your cylinder throat size is whats important with cast bullets and Rugers generally run a little large. I would measure the cyl throats(the end closest to the barrel) or if you have some known bullets try and push them thru a well cleaned cyl throat. You want a snug fit that you can push thru by hand, you don't want them to fall thru. That said if my only two choices were .430 and .431 I'd go with .431. I use .433 in my Ruger Super blackhawk, it has .434 throats and a .429 groove.

velosa
April 27, 2007, 11:18 PM
I own a 44 redhawk as well. It shoots Penn cast bullets .431 better than I can aim!

Art Eatman
April 28, 2007, 01:18 PM
If they're hard cast and you don't drive them too fast, IMO either would work okay.

Art

Lennyjoe
April 28, 2007, 11:30 PM
I use Meister hard cast .429 bullets. They are great bullets and are very accurate with AA#9 out of my SRH.

cheygriz
April 28, 2007, 11:32 PM
I use .429 cast and H110 for full power. I don't think I've ever shot a jacketed bullet in my Redhawk.:uhoh:

Unique is great for "light" loads.

Lennyjoe
April 30, 2007, 01:10 AM
I'll second the Unique for light loads. The wife can only handle a few of the AA#9 loads so I made up a couple hundred with Unique and they are very accurate and easy on the hand.

Bula
April 30, 2007, 12:26 PM
I couldn't get ANY sized commercial hard cast to not lead up my barrels with hotter loads. I had great accuracy with the Lasercast .432 240's, using 8-9 grains of Unique. I think the problem is these bullets are too hard, their lube is too hard and that danged bevel base. Try to find some plain based, 245-255 gr keiths and you can push them as fast as you want from most pistols. My Rugers love'em. Home cast, sized to .430 with 50/50 lube.

ADKWOODSMAN
April 30, 2007, 12:53 PM
I'll third the Unique for light loads in the Redhawk .44

Lennyjoe
April 30, 2007, 01:54 PM
I get some leading with the Meister hard cast but I'm pushing them to 1530 fps with AA#9. Not an everyday load for the range thought. Its primarly a hunting load.

Just got to swab the barrel a bit to get her clean.;)

Handgunr
April 30, 2007, 03:06 PM
Bula,

Hardcast can never be too hard my friend.....;)

Sizing is everything, mainly so, and even more important with very hardcast bullets.

fecmech hit the nail on the head with that post.....

I think in your post you realized the problem when you stated the bullets were bevel based, then stated about using flat based bullets......at least it seemed that way when I read it.

The only reason why you see bevel based bullets sold by commercial caster's is because they drop cleanly and easily from the moulds during the auto casting process.
Bullets with square bases don't do so as easily, slowing down casting rates by a lot.

Check with "Creeker" (LAH) on this site, who ran a successful casting business for many years on what I said. Many times, he had stated that he had to hand cast specific types of bullets for customers that wanted square based "Keith type" bullets. He offered a choice, which many cast bullet shooters appreciated.

These tapered "boattail" type bases are good for long range rifle rounds, but they don't lend themselves to cast bullets well at all.

Even with proper sizing, these bullet bases, as the powder is fired beneath them, softens, and due to the angle they have, directs the molten particles directly to the bore walls.
With flat plainbase bullets, everything is at right angles, and not blasted directly at the walls during ignition.

Sizing is, and should be the paramount concern, but the bevel base is far more a benefit for the caster, than for the purchaser/shooter.
You'll read claims of easier reloading, especially in progressive presses and all, but although they might seat a little easier, and with slightly less belling of the case mouth, the difference is minimal, and when fired in the gun, there is no benefit, which in essence, is where it counts.

Take care,
Bob

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