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Deej86
April 27, 2007, 12:28 AM
Copied this from AR15.com, posted to facebook and myspace, thought I'd let you know to e-mail this clown and let him know how you feel.
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Saw this on a online board I hang out at. I have the respect and compassion for the VT families and students and staff, but this is sad.
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Dear valued vendor,

In light of the recent unfortunate incident at Virginia Tech there has been a Corporate decision made to show our support to the families and loved ones of the victims by displaying no guns at the Boomtown Gun Knife and Hunting Show scheduled for May 11, 12 & 13.

The show will continue as scheduled. All hunting equipment, knives, accessories, sporting goods etc... will be displayed and sold as normal. The ONLY change to the show will be that there will be NO guns displayed.

I will be away at the Laughlin River Run today through Sunday. I will return to the office on Monday to handle any changes you may need to make in your table order status. Should you desire a change you may call and leave your name, company name and the table changes you desire on the answer machine

Please NO OTHER calls.

PLEASE leave all questions until Monday when it will be appropriate to call me. The answer to your most common questions has been supplied. YES we are having a Gun Accessory, Knife, Hunting, Sporting Goods Show as scheduled. NO you may not bring guns. All questions related to who, what, why etc are: The decision has been made to honor the victims of Virginia Tech. END OF STORY.

Rest assured the customers will still be there to shop. You have all seen the advertising. I also wish to offer my thanks to all of you as gun enthusiasts and vendors for continuing to support all my efforts in this venture. I appreciate your continued support of the show.

Thank you for your support and understanding,
Bert Guy
www.GatlingGuns.com
928-854-3538

Should you have any urgent NEEDS you may contact

Sheryl Pacini

Special Events Coordinator

Boomtown Casino & Hotel

P. O. Box 399

Verdi, NV 89439

Business: 775-345-876

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trueblue1776
April 27, 2007, 12:31 AM
That's pretty ******************* Stupid!

I hope all the vendors withdraw.

Pilgrim
April 27, 2007, 12:42 AM
The other word for kitty cats.

Pilgrim

rockstar.esq
April 27, 2007, 12:49 AM
Ruddy cowards!

GlowinPontiac
April 27, 2007, 01:20 AM
wow.........this is just dumb.

should all the gun stores in the area stop displaying firearms as well?

Avenger29
April 27, 2007, 01:46 AM
Then it ain't a gun show anymore. I go to gun shows to guess what, SEE GUNS.

How the heck is this 'honoring the victims'?

NeoSpud
April 27, 2007, 11:49 AM
Bingo, Avenger.

I'd be pretty upset if I paid for table space then the guys running the show pulled something like this. Ben Fold's "Song for the Dumped" comes to mind :D

On a related note, I'm still waiting for the ford dealership down the road to stop showing the trucks in the front lot to "honor" the victims of rollover accidents. :rolleyes:

sansone
April 27, 2007, 11:52 AM
maybe he means just no roadside billboards of guns?:confused:

Black Knight
April 27, 2007, 12:02 PM
They would owe me a refund if I were a vendor there. Oh and yes they would pay the refund, either voluntarily or by a judge's decision in small claims court. Changing the contract after it has been agreed to. Gun show no more. Wonder how they would survive if all vendors pulled out to "honor" their wishes?

30 cal slob
April 27, 2007, 12:12 PM
just don't go. who's gonna bother shelling out bucks to go to a show that won't have guns?

it will probably be a pretty lame show, as much as i love to hunt.

aren't most hunting shows done in late summer early fall before the season gets underway? just like most fishing shows are done in mid to late winter?

doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

frostbiker
April 27, 2007, 02:45 PM
His heart is in the right place, but the execution is pathetic.

There could be so many other ways to honor the VT Students, Family and Friends than this. :scrutiny:

ArfinGreebly
April 27, 2007, 03:44 PM
Has Tom (GunTalk) picked up on this yet?

Tom? You watching this?

This might make an interesting item in your show this Sunday.

Heck, maybe we could get an interview.

What on Earth are they thinking?

I can't wait until a car show doesn't show cars out of respect for all the traffic fatalities.



Oh, and just in case it's not clear, [B]even though I live just down the road from the venue, I won't be going to this show.

skinnyguy
April 27, 2007, 03:54 PM
Makes me wonder how many people who aren't going to hear this piece of information will go there, buy their admission, see there are no guns at a gun show, and demand a full refund. I'd hope that many of them will demand a refund for the fuel they used to get there.

This stinks to high heaven, but it will probably only happen this once when the organizers/decision makers realize they will have to put out a ton of bucks out of their own pockets to cover the charges incurred at the facility by holding the non-gun, gun show.

At least I hope that's the way it works out.

Robert Hairless
April 27, 2007, 04:13 PM
I went to the web site in that announcement. Here is what is on its home page:

Due to their Anti-Firearms industry policies, We no longer accept PayPal.

Amusing hypocrisy.

fiVe
April 27, 2007, 04:36 PM
I agree with the above. Cowardice honors no one.

How can it be a gun show if they won't show any guns?

Kali Endgame
April 27, 2007, 06:57 PM
I don't see the big deal. Sounds just like any California gun show I have ever been to. Jerky, airsoft, stickers, anything but guns.:neener: :scrutiny:

Big Calhoun
April 27, 2007, 07:36 PM
Boomtown Gun Knife and Hunting Show

That's a pretty lame excuse. It would be fair to say anyone afraid of the evil guns wouldn't be attending in the first place. Bad business!

Deej86
April 27, 2007, 07:37 PM
I sent this person an e-mail last night. Could you folks please send them some e-mails to the site listed in the first post, so we can give these people a piece of our minds?

Deej86
April 27, 2007, 07:39 PM
To Kali Endgame,
why don't you see this as a problem?
Do you have an issue with legal firearms owners being able to enjoy the sport, despite a major tragedy?

ArfinGreebly
April 27, 2007, 08:13 PM
I believe our friend, Kali Endgame, is making light of this.

See the smileys after his post.

Deej86, which email address did you use?

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Here we are, pretty much all going, "hey, we need MORE guns if we're going to effectively combat mass murder," and the guys putting on a GUN show want to hide the guns.

Priceless.

alucard0822
April 27, 2007, 08:48 PM
Once again someone in the gun industry/shooting comunity is accepting blame for something that we didn't do. If every vendor, and every would be customer were to not show up, the buisness would be out a lot of money that people would have been willing to spend, how does that honor anyone? If he really wanted to help he would have donated proceeds. It would be about the same to go to your favorite local chinese restraunt only to find they are no longer serving chinese food to basically "apolagise" for the shooters ancestry, which I belive would be insulting to a community that had nothing to do with what happened at VT.

jimacp
April 28, 2007, 12:00 AM
Is Zumbo running this show?

Zundfolge
April 28, 2007, 01:09 AM
Is Zumbo running this show?
Even before his recent fall from grace, Zumbo had more sense than this.

Deej86
April 28, 2007, 01:42 AM
I received the following E-mail

I do NOT in anyway support the decision for NO GUNS. I am quite opposed to the decision.
I will forward this email UP the ladder to the decision makers. The ones that decided NO GUNS
Thanks again,
Bert

Arfin-I used the "questions" e-mail from a hotmail account.

Hoppy590
April 28, 2007, 01:45 AM
:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

is all i can say

AirPower
April 28, 2007, 01:54 AM
So who's this Bert Guy at www.GatlinGun.com? If they're really trying to "honor" the victims by somehow shunning guns, why not just close down the business all together? If we were to follow the train of thought, if you are in the business, you're obviously "dishonoring" the victims, so you must shut down the business all together.

ArfinGreebly
April 29, 2007, 06:46 PM
I phoned in on Tom's Gun Talk radio show today (sometime in the third hour) and raised the issued of the "gunless gun show."

We got about, oh, three minutes of airtime on it.

One of his guests remarked that, after the word gets out, they "could set a new attendance record."

Any of you in Northern/Western Nevada get to hear that segment?

ArfinGreebly
May 1, 2007, 01:12 PM
I'm sure it will come as a complete shock, announced on the radio last night and this morning: The Boomtown Gun Show has been canceled.

No explanation given beyond the fact that many vendors were demanding their money back (having paid for one or more tables where . . . they would be unable to display their wares).

So, no more "gunless gun show."

I wonder what's next for the promoters? Does that do permanent damage to their credibility?

Given that this show isn't happening now, when's the next ACTUAL gun show in our area?

jeepmor
May 1, 2007, 01:19 PM
bahk, bahk, beegahk!!!! :barf:

obxned
May 1, 2007, 02:18 PM
When Rosie dies of overeating, Food Lion plans to have nothing but empty shelves out of respect!

Slinger
May 1, 2007, 03:27 PM
Maybe the mental institutions should not allow their patients outside the building where people might see them. I think this is a more suitable response to the VT murders. Stupid, yes. But more appropriate.

Colt
May 1, 2007, 03:45 PM
I wonder if they'll jack up table prices for the next shows to pay for all the marketing money they wasted on this show.

How many of the potential show patrons might have been people seeking to arm themselves in light of the VT tragedy?

mpmarty
May 1, 2007, 04:34 PM
If anyone is in the area of the show they need to stand outside with a sign that proclaims that this is a gunless gunshow so folks will not pay the admission and get involved in trying to get their money back.

OOps sorry didn't read page two before answering the post. My bad

SoCalShooter
May 1, 2007, 04:40 PM
:mad: :mad: :fire: :fire: :banghead: :banghead: :cuss: :cuss:

This is not right, we cannot cave into the blissninnies, the best thing we can do is keep on the way we are and still support the families, it does not mean that we have to drop our way of life because it offends someone.

akodo
May 1, 2007, 07:40 PM
thing is, while some people travel the gun show circut for fun, most do it for a way to sell their wares and advertize their shop/specialty. Canceling a show at this late of a date allows for no rescheduling a show on the other side of the state.

I think vendors should be able to go after whoever made the 'no guns' decision for financial losses

mek42
May 1, 2007, 08:07 PM
This might be an utterly silly thought, but wouldn't a donation to the families from the proceeds been a better way of showing respect?

JohnBT
May 1, 2007, 09:35 PM
Good idea, here's the address for the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund.

www.vt.edu/tragedy/memorial_fund.php

John
Class of '72

freakazoid
May 1, 2007, 09:53 PM
What would happen if the gun vendors still showed up and set there stuff up?

PistolNewbie
May 1, 2007, 11:05 PM
Perhaps the person who made this decision knows Karen Reilly from Altoona, PA who started another wildly controversial thread titled "For Safety, Get Rid of Guns". Oh, I forgot--guns kill people--silly me! Mental illness never killed anybody. :banghead: If we could just figure out a way to prevent these severly ill people from killing/hurting others, there would be very little controversy over firearms. We have walked on the moon, we have a space station, we can split the atom, we can save the world (almost), but we can't keep deadly weapons out of the hands of mentally ill people? Ok, I'll shut up--we all know this is a VERY complex issue with no easy solution. :(

Viajero YVR
May 2, 2007, 12:19 AM
Once again someone in the gun industry/shooting comunity is accepting blame for something that we didn't do. If every vendor, and every would be customer were to not show up, the buisness would be out a lot of money that people would have been willing to spend, how does that honor anyone? If he really wanted to help he would have donated proceeds. It would be about the same to go to your favorite local chinese restraunt only to find they are no longer serving chinese food to basically "apolagise" for the shooters ancestry, which I belive would be insulting to a community that had nothing to do with what happened at VT.

Especially since the shooter was South Korean. :neener: :rolleyes:

Good point, though. Definately a flawed business decision and now its been cancelled so everybody loses!

mbt2001
May 2, 2007, 12:16 PM
How does not displaying firearms show respect to the "victims"????

armoredman
May 2, 2007, 01:52 PM
Free CCW classes to anyone of legal age, with valid student ID, would be more appropo, in my opinion. As the NRA says, (regardless of what anyone thinks of thier policies), REFUSE TO BE A VICTIM!

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