On ABC this morning!


April 27, 2007, 07:21 AM

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April 27, 2007, 07:28 AM
good reading.

As the saying goes, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

Gun control isn't crime control.

Dr. Dickie
April 27, 2007, 07:29 AM
Yeah, John Stossel, one of the good guys.
He presents common sense backed-up by facts. That makes him one different bird in the world of reporters.
Do not confuse him with the rest of them, and do not see him as a new trend, more an anomaly.

April 27, 2007, 07:39 AM
Nice piece. I wonder if they'll fire him. :)

April 27, 2007, 07:40 AM
Thank God SOMEONE in mainstream media isn't afraid to speak the truth!

April 27, 2007, 08:04 AM
Right On!

April 27, 2007, 09:30 AM
Nice piece. I wonder if they'll fire him.

Doubt it. He's been at this game for quite a while. Long as I can remember, but then again, I'm a young 'un.

April 27, 2007, 09:39 AM
ABC News can see their market share dropping and FOX News Channel's share is on the rise.

They know on which side their bread is buttered.

The editorial staff had to hold their collective nose and let that one go.

April 27, 2007, 09:59 AM
Looks to me like a simple case of a reporter reporting the facts.

Dr. Dickie
April 27, 2007, 10:01 AM
Looks to me like a simple case of a reporter reporting the facts.

Simple perhaps, but it sure does not happen very often!

Outlaw Man
April 27, 2007, 10:22 AM
I don't think he could have said it any better.

robert garner
April 27, 2007, 10:28 AM
are VERY quick to denounce, I hope I am not the only one to drop a line to ABC
to let them know this was appreciated!

April 27, 2007, 10:37 AM
last week abc's morning show offended me due to the (anti-gun) coverage of the VT shootings. I like to think my (& other THR members) comments submitted to abc helped to furnish this story. we need more press like this, keep writing boys

April 27, 2007, 11:29 AM
Wow, I am stunned.

Facts!, we don't need no stinkin' Facts!

ABC usually hires the team of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe <I know, WAY old joke> to check their facts for them. I still think most news agency's fact checkers are locked in a room and ask random questions of Rhesus monkeys.

April 27, 2007, 12:36 PM
Again, I love stossel.

April 27, 2007, 12:45 PM
Stossel has always reported the facts. He might be the blacksheep at ABC but blacksheep there is defined as anyone that tells the truth. He is probably the only truthful journalist on their payroll.

Here is his main page with links to some other articles:


High Planes Drifter
April 27, 2007, 12:50 PM
Good article. We should cut and forward that link to everyone on our contact(e-mail) list.

April 27, 2007, 01:53 PM
Thank God SOMEONE in mainstream media isn't afraid to speak the truth!
Stossel, one of the good guys

April 27, 2007, 02:36 PM
The internet being somewhat volatile, let us preserve his words:
Gun Control Isn't Crime Control

Stricter Gun Control Laws Wouldn't Have Prevented Va. Tech Tragedy


April 26, 2007— This past Tuesday the governor of Virginia announced he would close the loophole that allowed Seung-Hui Cho to buy the guns he used to kill 32 people — and himself — on the Virginia Tech campus. OK, it's a good idea to keep guns out of the hands of people who are mentally unstable. But be careful about how far the calls for gun control go, because the idea that gun control laws lower gun crime is a myth.

After the 1997 shooting of 16 kids in Dunblane, England, the United Kingdom passed one of the strictest gun-control laws in the world, banning its citizens from owning almost all types of handguns. Britain seemed to get safer by the minute, as 162,000 newly-illegal firearms were forked over to British officials by law-abiding citizens.
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But this didn't decrease the amount of gun-related crime in the U.K. In fact, gun-related crime has nearly doubled in the U.K. since the ban was enacted.

Might stricter gun laws result in more gun crime? It seems counterintuitive but makes sense if we consider one simple fact: Criminals don't obey the law. Strict gun laws, like the ban in Britain, probably only affect the actions of people who wouldn't commit crimes in the first place.

England's ban didn't magically cause all British handguns to disappear. Officials estimate that more than 250,000 illegal weapons are still in circulation in the country. Without the fear of retaliation from victims who might be packing heat, criminals in possession of these weapons now have a much easier job, and the incidence of gun-related crime has risen. As the saying goes, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

It's true that if gun control laws had been stricter in Virginia, Seung-Hui Cho would have had a more difficult time getting ahold of the weapons he used to gun down innocent students and teachers. But it's foolish to assume that stricter gun laws will prevent maniacs like Cho from committing heinous crimes. A deranged criminal will find a way to get his hands on a gun. Or a bomb.

The sad truth is that if gun laws had been less strict in Virginia, there is a possibility that the tragedy at Virginia Tech could have claimed fewer lives.

In January 2006, a bill was proposed in the Virginia State Assembly that would have forced Virginia Tech to change its current policy and allow students and faculty members to legally carry weapons on campus. Teenage college students carrying guns makes me nervous, but shouldn't adults be able to decide if they want to arm themselves — just in case? When the bill was defeated, a Virginia Tech spokesman cheered the action, saying, "This will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

However, one gun rights advocate lamented the bill's failure with chilling accuracy: "You never know when evil will pop up."

Back in 2002, evil arrived at Virginia's Appalachian School of Law. A disgruntled student opened fire on the school's campus, killing three and wounding more. The law school also prohibited guns on campus, but fortunately two students happened to have firearms in their cars. When the pair heard gunshots, they retrieved their weapons and trained them on the killer, helping restrain him until authorities arrived.

There's no way to know whether Seung-Hui Cho's murderous rampage could have been stopped in a similar way, but what's certain is that strict gun control laws do not always have the effect that legislators intend. More guns (in the right hands) can stop crime, and fewer guns (in the wrong hands) can make for more crime. Gun control isn't crime control.

April 27, 2007, 02:58 PM

April 27, 2007, 03:08 PM
It sounds like Stossel reads THR.


April 27, 2007, 03:17 PM
Good for him.

I hope this article reaches many people.

April 27, 2007, 03:21 PM
Michelle Malkin also has quite a clear head and writes outstanding articles exposing the truth for what it is. She's also clearly in our corner. I just read this article in our local newspaper.


On looking her up in google, I ran across this pro-gun article also.


I found a good selection of her articles here and intend to read more of them as I have time.


April 27, 2007, 03:33 PM
Stossel did a radio interview here in Chicago yesterday morning.

On the air he said that; "Most reporters don't bother checking the facts that come in with a press release or a story, if it fits their pre-conceived idea of things. (Is anyone really surprised at that?) Gun control reducing crime and violence is one of the things that is just taken as Gospel by most reporters that don't own and maybe nevcer have known anyone that has a gun, so they keep repeating the same lines over and over anytime a gun is involved in a crime and most never bother to do the research, even though it's right there for anyone with a computer to find."

I'm always a little surprised when any one of the networks allows someone to speak out like that.

But his book has been a best seller and it's now coming out in paperback next week.

April 27, 2007, 03:38 PM
There is also a video clip you can watch in the article, which features Stossel. Its 8 minutes long or so.

Also, apparently there is going to be An ABC special with him on the topic of guns on May 4, this too, according to the video.

April 27, 2007, 05:01 PM

here's the video...

Steve N
April 27, 2007, 07:16 PM
I saw him speak at Oberlin College in Oberlin, OH on Wednesday. Oberlin is a hotbed of flaming liberalism, and I was surprised it took until the end of the Q & A session for some liberal ninnie student to ask if the US should have stronger gun laws in light of the VT shootings. He said that gun control does not work. The cities in the US that have the tightest gun laws also have the most gun crimes.

He did say that he was having a special on gun control next Friday (May 4).

I bought an advance copy of his paperback. Worth the money!

April 27, 2007, 07:29 PM
Steve N, I used to live by Elyria High till I went to college. I am surprised to see someone from that decently obscure place here.

April 30, 2007, 07:34 AM
Stossel is the token conservative/smart guy at ABC. They probably think he's an idiot that can't swim with the tide. Or they are throwing him to us as a bone.

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