696-1 first time out


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Walkalong
April 28, 2007, 05:59 PM
I shot my new to me 696-1 today. I really liked the way it felt and I was very pleased with the way it shot. A fellow THR member, Treebeard, sold it to me to help finance another want of his (we all know how that one goes) He knew I liked the .44 Spl. and gave me first dibs. Many thanks. It was a pleasure to do buisness and he made it go very smoothly. :)

I had some Magnus 215 Gr. SWC's loaded up in Midway .44 Spl. brass (remember that stuff old timers) with 4.3 Grs. of the last bit of Solo 1000 I was using up. (700X shoots better for me here). I also had some Remington 180 & 210 Gr. JHP's loaded in Starline .44 Russian brass with 3.9 Grs. 700X for each.

I shot the 1st target with the 215 SWC's.

I shot the 2nd target with the 180 Gr. JHP's.

I shot the 3rd target with the 210 Gr. JHP's.

Hi- 670 / Lo - 652 / Avg - 659 / ES - 18 / SD - 7....215 SWC

Hi- 660 / Lo - 633 / Avg - 644 / ES - 27 / SD - 11...180 JHP

Hi- 661 / Lo - 636 / Avg - 651 / ES - 25 / SD - 9...210 JHP

I am a happy camper. :D I am going to work up a load with .44 Spl brass and the Remington 180 JHP's for range shooting.

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Gator
April 28, 2007, 07:40 PM
696s are great, aren't they? :) I finally got one recently and love it. I also got some 180 gr bullets, I'm glad to see your 180s did so well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Galt38/696small.jpg

glockman19
April 28, 2007, 07:49 PM
Nice grips please share your experience in the 686 thread.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=257401&highlight=686

Gator
April 28, 2007, 09:31 PM
Maybe we'll start our own club :neener:

steelhead
April 28, 2007, 09:38 PM
Not as clumsy or as random as an auto, but an elegant weapon for a more civilized age*.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/472145-big.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/img/472146-big.JPG


*with respect to Obi Wan.

joneb
April 29, 2007, 03:30 AM
Congrats Walkalong, :D

My 696 is my favorite revolver, best jj

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JNewell
April 29, 2007, 03:02 PM
I've found the 696 extremely accurate also, as the attached scan shows. I avoided buying one for years on the theory that it wasn't that different from a 629 Mountain Gun. I was surprised by how much more compact, in real life rather than on paper, the combination of the L frame and the five-shot cylinder makes the 696 - although at the price of the ammo flexibility that you get from the N frame.

Walkalong
April 29, 2007, 09:26 PM
I love the way it feels in my hand and I love the .44 Spl. I would just love one in .44 Russian, but like thats going to happen. :)

I traded away my Mod 33 in 38 S&W years ago and that was a mistake. :(

Stainz
April 29, 2007, 11:07 PM
There is nothing at all wrong with .44 Russians in your 696. Mine, also a -1, loves them. Especially nice is the combo of a 240gr LSWC (Magnus, Meister, etc) over 3.5gr of my do-everything powder - Titegroup - with Federal LP primers (I have reduced power Wolff springs in my 696 - and all of my other 'fun' S&W's.). In Starline .44 Russian cases, I get 692 fps SD +/- 7 fps. That 'poof' load makes 'major' power factor (166) - and can be shot all day. I upped the load to 4.0gr of Titegroup with a 240gr LRNFP, to get 743 fps SD +/- 6 fps. I could hit a 16" steel plate at 100yd hand held several (3-4) times per cylinder, after determining the 'drop'. Suddenly, a batch made a five foot circle around the target - it was traced to improperly sized bullets - .427" - .44-40 fare. I reloaded with some good GA Arms lead, and all was fine.

The Blazer 200gr GDHP's are nice defensive loads for the 696 - they made 805 fps from my 2.5" 296 - and a whopping 836 fps SD +/- 7 fps from the 3" 696 - 800 fps is sufficient for proper opening of that Speer #4427 bullet. The best source now for that SD ammo is Georgia Arms - at $43.50/100 in new Starline .44 Special brass - cheaper than Blazers now - and you get good brass. BTW, a homebrew with that Speer #4427 over 5.7gr Titegroup dupes their mv.

I stay away from Keith loads - the small forcing cone dictates prudence there. I had a 629MG for hotter .44 Specials - now a regular 4" 629 at 6 oz more than the 696 - and cheaper new than the last two gunshow 696's I saw. Given a choice of one only, I'd take the 4" 629 over a 696. They are fun, just not ideal for ccw, hunting, HD, etc... but fun! I paid $439 new for mine 4.5yr ago - the same day I bought my new 296 ($349 - a closeout special!). I had a 629MG, bought new, and a LNIB 6.5" 24-3 QC nightmare at the time - the 696 made every trip to the range for quite a while... stole the show. Lately, a 4" .32M SP101 has taken those honors... guess I'm fickle.

Mine sports Ahrends square conversion cocobolo stocks - great look and feel - with any load I've tried. BTW, those Russians are neat rounds...

Stainz

PS Whatever you do - clean your chambers carefully before shooting longer cased rounds, particularly when shooting .44M's after Russians and Specials in a 629MG. Don't ask me how I know this, but it has something to do with why I have a new 4" 629 instead of my beloved 629MG...

joneb
April 29, 2007, 11:34 PM
I tried some 240gr Lasercast in my 696 and did not enjoy getting the lead out :(
These bullets measure .430", my 696 cylinder mouths measure .429", and the barrel :confused: five riflings make it hard to measure.

Stainz
April 30, 2007, 07:39 AM
I have a Lewis Lead Remover (Brownell's &Hoppes) that makes short work of lead in the grooves and fc. Lead produces far less frictional heat in a barrel than copper clad/plated bullets - it's worth the trouble. I just used a box of the Oregon Trail lead to reload a few of all three; Russians, Specials, and Magnums - guess I'd better keep that LLR handy! At least they'll stabilize a lot better than those .44-40 sized bullets...

Stainz

Bear41mag
April 30, 2007, 10:55 AM
Great Guns I love em...here my pair of no dashes.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Bear41mag/doc2013.jpg

Walkalong
April 30, 2007, 11:13 AM
There is nothing at all wrong with .44 Russians in your 696.

Yep. My first post showed two loads shot in .44 Russian brass, but I don't like to shoot a lot of them in the .44 Special for the same reason I don't like to shoot much .38 Spl. in the .357 Mag. :)

Majic
April 30, 2007, 06:50 PM
Nice grips please share your experience in the 686 thread.
Why talk about M696s in M686's thread? :neener:

Walkalong
April 30, 2007, 07:58 PM
Quote:
Nice grips please share your experience in the 686 thread.
Why talk about M696s in M686's thread?


I was curious about that myself. Must have been in a hurry and misread. :)

Gewehr98
May 5, 2007, 04:33 AM
Which grips are those on your 696? They look kind of "fat", but still compact, and they have the S&W medallion... :confused:

Gator
May 5, 2007, 09:03 AM
Those are factory S&W Combat Grips (80s vintage?), but they have been refinished. Walkalong has them on his 696 too, but his are slightly different. The shape changed a bit over the years. The smooth, round butt, finger groove, combat grips are great grips, but they are getting hard to find and rather expensive; and no other grip manufacturer has ever made a good copy!

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