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Wildalaska
June 18, 2003, 01:53 AM
Ya got to beat em at their own game....

Gun maker wants Grunow to pay fees


By Bill Douthat, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 17, 2003



WEST PALM BEACH -- A gun distributor wants the widow of slain school teacher Barry Grunow to pay its defense costs, including attorney's fees, from last year's five-week trial.

The Valor Corp. say it's entitled to recover its legal costs because Pam Grunow lost her lawsuit accusing the Broward County company of being responsible for her husband's death.

Valor sold the.25-caliber handgun that Lake Worth Middle School student Nathaniel Brazill used to kill Grunow on the last day of school in 2000.

A jury found Valor 5 percent responsible for the teacher's death and awarded Pam Grunow and her two children $1.2 million, but the verdict was reversed by Circuit Judge Jorge Labarga, who presided over the trial.

An attorney for Pam Grunow called Valor's move a "heavy-handed" attempt to pressure Grunow to drop her appeal of Labarga's ruling.

"What a horrible thing for an industry to do to a widow and her children," said Rebecca Larson, who along with Bob Montgomery represents Grunow.

But Valor attorney Tom Warner said the company has spent a lot of money on the lawsuit and wants an end to the costly litigation.

"I think she's a courageous woman and it's terrible what happened to her husband," said Warner, a former state legislator and state solicitor general who is handling the appeal for Valor.

"I don't think we are pressuring her into doing anything," Warner said. "It's legitimate for the defense in this case, which is out of a lot of money, to say, 'When is this going to end?' "

Warner confirmed that Valor has offered not to seek the recovery if Grunow's appeal is withdrawn.

Valor says it's entitled to recovery of attorney's fees because Pam Grunow turned down an offer of $200,000 in March 2002 to settle her lawsuit without going to trial.

The settlement offer was rejected because it didn't even cover the expenses to that point in preparing for the lawsuit, Larson said. During the trial in October, Montgomery told the jury he was seeking a jury verdict of $75 million.

The lawsuit claimed the Saturday night special handgun sold by Valor was inherently defective and should be sold only with safety locks.

Brazill, who was 13 when he shot Grunow outside a classroom, had stolen the gun from the home of a family friend. Brazill was convicted of second-degree murder in 2001 and sentenced to 28 years in prison.

A hearing to decide whether Valor is entitled to recover attorney's fees is scheduled for July 25.

Valor filed a separate request to the court to recover other expenses. Neither motion gives estimates of those costs.

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Hal
June 18, 2003, 04:39 AM
Bravo for Valor Corp.
They should also go after the attorney for Pam Grunow.

shootist2121
June 18, 2003, 07:42 AM
This is the way these sort of lawsuits..Well actually all lawsuits should be handle..If you loose you pay the defense cost for defending theirselves...

Sure put a damper on the suits without merit wouldn't it..

Just my opinion..


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Erik
June 18, 2003, 10:23 AM
As much as I find the necessity of filing against the woman distasteful, I applaud the move. Fair is fair, and the system is there to be used. (Too bad you cannot target the lawyers and groups which encouraged the woman in her time of grief.)

Standing Wolf
June 18, 2003, 02:11 PM
Valor is doing the right thing. I wish more firearm manufacturers would do likewise.

The leftist extremist anti-Second Amendment bigots need to realize there are serious consequences of their attempted predations against the nation's civil rights.

CZ-75
June 18, 2003, 02:16 PM
As much as I find the necessity of filing against the woman distasteful, I applaud the move. Fair is fair, and the system is there to be used. (Too bad you cannot target the lawyers and groups which encouraged the woman in her time of grief.)


It would also be a PR nightmare, should they try to recover all their costs. However, nothing prevents them from settling for a minimal sum ($1?), should they win. The precedent is more important than the money.

bfason
June 18, 2003, 02:34 PM
This is the way these sort of lawsuits..Well actually all lawsuits should be handle..If you loose you pay the defense cost for defending theirselves...

I disagree. Losing a lawsuit does not automatically mean that the underlying claim was frivolous. Also, a lawsuit may seek several things: actual damages, punitive damages, court costs, attorney fees, injunctive relief, etc. A jury might award the plaintiff half of the things he asked for, but deny the other half. So who actually "won"? (Besides the attorneys, I mean.)

Also, if a plaintiff who loses must pay the defendant's legal fees, should a winning plaintiff automatically be awarded his attorney fees?

As it is now, a court may under certain circumstances not only deny a plaintiff's claim, but also enter a judgment again him for bringing the silly lawsuit in the first place. Admittedly, this does not happen enough due in part to the judges which are selected.


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Know the definition of a frivolous lawsuit?

Your lawsuit is frivolous; mine is meritorious. :neener:

Henry Bowman
June 18, 2003, 03:40 PM
This is not a counter-suit and it is not a "loser pays" situation. It is called "offer of judgment." Early in the case, the defendant offered on a confidential basis to take a judgment agaist them and to pay $200,000. If the plaintiff declines to accept this offer (as they did), then the plaintiff must pay the defendant's costs from that point forward if she fails to win a verdict for at least the offered amount.
This is the rule in every state and in federal courts. It provides a nice balance. Defendants are encouraged to make reasonable offers and plaintiffs are encouraged to accept them. Both must weigh the risks.

I am a lawyer, but I don't play one on the Internet. :evil:

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