What do you use for your home defense ?


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Sigdude
April 28, 2007, 07:20 PM
I have a Remington 870 12 gauge pump withan 18 inch barrel.Federal OO Buck shells
I also have my pet Sig P200 ST.Hornady 230 gn.+P TAP JH ammo.
But these are basically unloaded.
I have a Special Forces Ranger Tomahawk,and a Cold Steel Tanto Knife right behind my Bed Headboard.
Also a heavy flaslight.
If i have enough time,and if i need too,i'll load the shotgun or the Siggie.:evil:

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.cheese.
April 28, 2007, 07:22 PM
my CCW piece. I figure I don't want to have my HD gun laying around when I'm not there (in case of a break-in).... and I'm already very familiar with it.

So it's a G27 with a Glock mag extension (adds 1 round) a lasermax laser and Tru-Glo TFO's. Plus I have an extra mag for it always loaded also with the Glock factory mag extension.

pcosmar
April 28, 2007, 07:34 PM
I have an ax. Well I have several, and a hatchet.

TexasP226
April 28, 2007, 07:36 PM
My primary home defense weapon is a HK USPc .45 loaded with one in the tube, decocked, and the safety on. I also have a Mossberg 590 at the ready. I can also access an AR-15, AK-47, Benelli M4, and several loaded handguns. The HK is the only weapon in the house that ever has a round "in the pipe."

El Tejon
April 28, 2007, 07:51 PM
These guns: http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1694&d=1046919195

Dorryn
April 28, 2007, 07:54 PM
I keep a tame zombie on a chain near the door.

texas bulldog
April 28, 2007, 07:59 PM
1. S&W 586 6" loaded with .357 115g JHP
2. Baikal 20" coach gun with exposed, functional hammers; loaded with winchester #1 buck; hammers down, safety off

...both are easily accessible from where i sleep...

texas bulldog
April 28, 2007, 08:00 PM
...and an 80 lb bulldog who will react faster than me.

Sigdude
April 28, 2007, 08:00 PM
do !

The Unknown User
April 28, 2007, 08:01 PM
I don't own any home defense weapons, but from what I've been told from people who's opinions I trust, 00 buckshot in a 12 guage is your best option save a good revolver. I honestly want a Remington 870 Synthetic 18" model. Those are sexy.

I've read from articles (not gun magazines) that a revolver can lay dormant in a drawer for years and will still fire when you really need it to. Can anyone confirm this?

Redneck with a 40
April 28, 2007, 08:02 PM
I have a couple that serve the home defense purpose. My primary gun is the Mossberg 500 with #4 buckshot, loaded tube, empty chamber. I figure I'll rack the slide for extra intimidation factor.:D I also have my XD-40 with 155 grain Winchester Ranger's, two 12 round magazines loaded. The pistol stays in the dresser right next to my bed. I don't have any kids in my house, so I'm not afraid to have them loaded and ready.

sansone
April 28, 2007, 08:06 PM
if I'm sleeping:mustang under my pillow, chambered w/hammer relaxed, safety on /// awake: same but in my pocket

rugerman
April 28, 2007, 08:06 PM
Its according to where I am in the house and which gun I (or my wife) gets to first. rugerman

Nomad, 2nd
April 28, 2007, 08:08 PM
My CCW or whatever's laying around... :D

1 old 0311
April 28, 2007, 08:08 PM
1) CZP-01 with 25 round mag
2) WASR with 75 round drum
3) Two BIG dogs with attitudes
4) Alarm system

Mr White
April 28, 2007, 08:12 PM
1st line: a German Shepherd and a Boxer/Pit mix. They're not too fond of uninvited visitors.

2nd line: Hi Power in the nightstand. Hi Point carbine loaded in the safe. If I'm on the first floor, the dogs should buy me 15 seconds to get to and open the safe.

3rd line: I live in a very low crime area. Home invasions and burglaries aren't too common around here.

Sigdude
April 28, 2007, 08:17 PM
You can leave a revolver sitting around for a length of time.
But you have to " Rotate " your bullets with a fresh batch ever so often or they will swell-in-place,become stuck,and very diffecult to remove.;)

p85
April 28, 2007, 08:21 PM
I have a Chas. Daly 12 ga. with 5 rounds on 00 at my bedside and my EAA 10 mm in my nightstand.
Won't say what else someone might run into, gotta keep some things a surprise.

sm
April 28, 2007, 08:22 PM
CCW
Youth single shot 20 ga shotgun

B. Adams
April 28, 2007, 08:37 PM
I have 7 rounds of 00 buck in my 18" Winchester Defender sitting next to my bed, and another one just like it in the safe in my bedroom. Both of them with the hammer down on an empty chamber. I also have an XD-40, ready to go, either on my nightstand or in a holster mounted underneath it, maybe a cocked and locked 1911 on my nightstand if I've bothered to take it out of the safe. I also have an AK in the safe, with a dozen loaded mags nearby if I need them, and I have 150 additional rounds of 00 buck if I go through the first 14.

I live in a low crime area, so I'm not really as worried or paranoid as I might look, but what's the point of having self-defense guns if you're not able to use them?

I keep all my hunting and target guns unloaded, and all my defensive guns loaded and ready to go. But then again, I don't have kids, or roommates (other than my girlfriend, who knows how to use all my guns), and I seldom have houseguests or visitors of any kind. Were any of those things to change, so would my gun-storage habits.

I would like to get a dog at some point though...

Sigdude
April 28, 2007, 08:38 PM
i wouldn't feel totally confident with just a single shot.
You might want to supplement your shotgun with and easy to reach small revolver.Keep it on you,maybe like in a Mexican Draw position on your waistband of what ever you're wearing.

KD7ONE
April 28, 2007, 08:40 PM
I use a sword......sometimes guns just make too much noise :D

thexrayboy
April 28, 2007, 08:43 PM
I honestly want a Remington 870 Synthetic 18" model. Those are sexy.


I recommend you get out more often. A remington 870 can be described in many ways but sexy is not one of them. Try to meet some nice young women. You will then be able to differentiate between "sexy" and "utilitarian".

dasmi
April 28, 2007, 08:49 PM
Mossberg 500A next to the bed. Makarov with Barnaul HP on the night stand. Mosin-Nagant M44 with Czech heavy ball in the closet. And my two inch Smith & Wesson M&P hidden some place accessible.

MechAg94
April 28, 2007, 08:54 PM
What do you use for defense against homes?

Man, I don't think I have anything big enough. :D



Me: .357 mag revolver and levergun are the goto weapons. I probably need to use my shotgun instead.

PistolNewbie
April 28, 2007, 08:54 PM
I haven't really thought a lot about it since we live in a condo that has a security system. However, if a deadly threat existed, my S&W 357 Magnum would suffice.

runfrumu
April 28, 2007, 08:54 PM
springfield xd .40.

PAshooter
April 28, 2007, 08:56 PM
Alarm system with G19 loaded with Federal EFMJ (and extra mag) as a backup.

Rangr44
April 28, 2007, 09:02 PM
[If i have enough time,and if i need too,i'll load the shotgun or the Siggie.]

Sigdude.........If TSHTF, then you can bet there won't be any time at all ! Keep the shotgun loaded when you're home, and when you go out, either take it with you, unload it, or lock it up.


[I've read from articles (not gun magazines) that a revolver can lay dormant in a drawer for years and will still fire when you really need it to.]
[Can anyone confirm this?]

Rob87 - Yup. Just keep primer-killing penetrating oils/sprays, like WD-40, etc, away from the revolver and especialy the chambers/ammo.

PRO:No safety to impede your speed, either.
CON: Anybody can figure out how to fire one, unlike most semi-auto's on-safe.

nelson133
April 28, 2007, 09:02 PM
Rossi 44 special, Taurus .44 special, Bushmaster M-4, WASR Ak-47, Maverick 88 5-shot 18 inch barrel, Sig P220, Dan Wesson Model 15 .357, S&W 28 converted to 45LC, all loaded and stash in various locations. Prepared does not equal paranoia.

-terry
April 28, 2007, 09:05 PM
I didn't know you could tame a zombie. All the ones I tried to tame just wasted away. Finally had to put them out in the back yard for target practice.:p

45Broomhandle
April 28, 2007, 09:08 PM
Ithica Mdl. 37 Featherlight 12ga pump, with 00 buck - gun room corner
S&W Mdl. 66-S stainless .357 - living room
Colt Detective Special 2" bbl .38spl - wife's bedside table
Walther P-38 (P-1) 9mm - my bedside table
Auto Ordnance 1911A1 45acp - gun room at desk
Beretta 1934 .380acp - map pocket, driver's door my car
FIE .25acp - map pocket, driver's door wife's car

These are all kept loaded, semi-autos and shotgun with empty chamber, Dynapoints where possible. Strategically located motion detectors in key entry rooms with alarms in bedroom, all are set at bedtime. Smoke alarms and complete house alarms system complete the package.

Best regards, 45Broomhandle

http://www.hunt101.com/img/375873.jpg

Sigdude
April 28, 2007, 09:13 PM
" Land of the Living Dead "::what:
Every time the normal guys shot Fireworks up into the night all the zombies would stop,and just stare at the explosions,very tame like.:eek:

But for a tied-up Zombie in a room or a back yard i think " Christmas Lights " will do the trick.:D

Brian Williams
April 28, 2007, 09:20 PM
Sigdude, 2 things: 1, where do you get the info about bullets swelling and 2, You do not know sm and what he can do with a 20 gauge single shot and his keltec p-11.

Brian Williams
April 28, 2007, 09:22 PM
Oh, I use a S&W 65 that has been lightly customized.

Sigdude
April 28, 2007, 09:29 PM
My wife's cousin is married to a retired Detective from N.Y.C..
He told me this,during their old revolver days working the Subway Stations as a regular Cop on the beat.
And i didn't know that the other member had a back-up auto.
Reloading a single shot is a little time consuming.
Whipping-out a revolver from the Mexican Crossdraw position is not.

FMJMIKE
April 28, 2007, 09:38 PM
I use a M1 Carbine....My bayonet should be here soon.....:D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/m1a.jpg

Ala Dan
April 28, 2007, 09:38 PM
Well, this subject covers many aspects of legally armed self defense. My
choice of weaponary probably differs from a lot of members here; but it
works for me, so here goes:

Case scenario #1- When "out and a'bout", I'm usually armed with some
type of quality 1911; most of the time a Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II,
or at other times a Smith & Wesson stainless 5" 1911. Or it may be that
you catch me on a day that I carrying my 5" Les Baer Thunder Ranch
Special, all in .45 ACP.

(continued) If a different attire is required, such as shorts and a T-shirt
usually my S&W 642 rides along in a 31 year old Bianchi Leather IWB
holster; plus the fact that all carry guns are backed up by a KEL-TEC
P3AT .380 Auto, or a Seecamp LWS-32.

Case scenario #2- "Home Invasion" I consider this a very serious offense
that I don't take lightly~! Primary weapon as usual is everybody's favorite-
the 12 gague shotgun. Mine just so happens too be a Remington 870
Marine Magnum stoked with alternating rounds of #6 shot, and #4 Buck.
Currently, my Springfield Armory XD-F .45 ACP fills the role as my primary
home defense handgun. If a larger threat exist, then my attention turns
to a Colt M4A3 in .223 with its 30 round magazine capacity. And just for
thrills, if I happen to run out of ammo there is other "defensive weapons"
hidden throughout the home. ;) :uhoh: :D

Avenger29
April 28, 2007, 09:42 PM
Reloading a single shot is a little time consuming.

I have seen someone with lots of experience work a single shot pretty fast.

Now, I have this waiting in line for HD:
1. My newest pride and joy, a Remington 870HD, 4 rds 00 Buck in the mag, 6 rds Slugs in the side saddle
2. A 1964 Marlin 336 with 7 rds 170 grain JSP in the mag, with 9 more in a buttstock carrier
3. Mossberg Mavrick 88 with 5 rds Buck in chamber
4. Mosin Nagant 91/30 with New production 180 grn ball loaded in mag, strippers full nearby
5. Winchester 1300 with 4 rds 00 Buck 3inch in the mag
6. Various .22 rifles

I figure these will handle just about any problem I come across. These are arranged from most preferable and accessibel to the last ones I would come across/select, assuming starting from my room.

scurtis_34471
April 28, 2007, 09:43 PM
I use my carry gun: SA XD-40 Service loaded with 180gr Remington Golden Sabers.

Leif Runenritzer
April 28, 2007, 09:44 PM
Top of a yule tree

http://home.comcast.net/~d.orear/klodboi001.jpg

and a Makarov in 9x18 with Hornady 95 gr JHP/XTP

Can't say i've used either, though.

Geno
April 28, 2007, 09:48 PM
All seriousness intended.

1) Bushmaster A3 (or other similar black rifle)

2) Colt 1911 (or other similar auto pistol)

3) baseball bat (or similar big stick)

4) TKW, Judo, Kuk Sool Won or other martial art in conjunction with teeth, fists, feet, forehead, ears...and...my brain!

After I run out of bullet, I'll bite, dig, claw, scratch, tear, growl, so long as blood flows in my veins and for approximately 45 to 60 seconds after it runs out, sheer meanness and a determination to kill the perp(s) will carry me on to take the bad guys first to the gates of Hell. Shortly thereafter I may or may not report to Jesus for passage into Heaven.

The point I am making is the following: weapons are worthless without the mindset that you can kill; you will kill. You can choose to not go into shock, and you can choose to continue to fight. We had these facts grilled into us over and over in our Tactical Shooting, and Advanced Tactical Shooting courses.

As the instructor told us, many people drop dead and die of "shock" from injuries which physiologically should in no way shape or forms have been fatal. It is conditioned response. "Oh, I was shot?! Okay...I have to lie down and lie now!" Wrong!

Physical weapons aside, our greatest weapon is our brain and our will to continue to fight to a vicious and relentless refusal to die! Our instructor was so serious that he actually said, "If you can't or won't do this, walk out now!" (Flowed by a pause) Nobody left.

glockman19
April 28, 2007, 09:49 PM
I'm alot like Ala Dan,

Home Defense is not only my Remington 870 W/#4, but my Glock 19 and 642 are always near.

When "Out & About" it's a S&W 642, 442 or Glock 26 I haven't got my 3" 1911 yet but it will be a Kimber Ultra carry II and a Ultra Raptor II.

For Real SHTF I have my choice of M1A, mini-14, or AR-15, I'll soon add a Garand and AK to the collection.

As always different tools for different needs

dralarms
April 28, 2007, 09:58 PM
if I'm sleeping:mustang under my pillow

First thing that came to mind is How do you stand the smell? ROTFLOL

possum
April 28, 2007, 10:01 PM
xd 40 service model, with trijicon night sights, m6 light laser combo, which is what i would use until i could get to the 870!

High Planes Drifter
April 28, 2007, 10:03 PM
A squad of nunchuck wielding Koala bears working in two-bear "buddy system" teams patrol both the interior and outer perimeter of my home. Meaner than hell.:cool:



If someone should get past them, I keep an AK74 under the bed, and a .45 on the nightstand.

dralarms
April 28, 2007, 10:03 PM
Oh, and I have a Para 14.45 LDA, loaded and locked. With instructions to ALL in my house to stay put unless the alarm says that there is a fire in the house. My wife runs to the bathroom to grab her backup and wait, everyone else stays in their room (back corner of the house, little chance of collateral damage), and I go hunting hoping I miss my 150 gal saltwater fish tank.:what:

Valkman
April 28, 2007, 10:06 PM
I use the meanest thing known to man - an irritated wife! I keep her in that state just in case someone breaks in. :D

DMK
April 28, 2007, 10:08 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=23777&d=1113673591

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12543&d=1081691350

Lennyjoe
April 28, 2007, 10:12 PM
Glock 20 in 10MM with a Glock tac light. That's used to fight my way to my Ithaca 12 guage with 00 buck shot.

jad0110
April 28, 2007, 10:14 PM
I use the meanest thing known to man - an irritated wife! I keep her in that state just in case someone breaks in

Good one, never thought of that... hmmmm :D .

I always have my CCW on me at home, a S&W 642:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%20642%2038%20Special/Large/642_12-1.jpg

At night, the 642 usually goes in the safe and my primary HD gun goes in the nightstand, a S&W 686+ loaded with 38+P LSWCHPs:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%20686%20Plus%20357%20Magnum/Large/686_12-2.jpg

My backup HD gun is usually the 642 or my Springer XD9 (mag loaded, empty chamber - I don't quite trust myself with the light trigger pull while half asleep).

One day I would like to add a Mossberg 590 pump in either 12 or 20 ga. But it is always nice to have a nice, simple wheelgun close at hand, God forbid I ever need it.

koja48
April 28, 2007, 10:22 PM
Always the ever-present 1911 & a 100#, extremely-territorial Black Lab. Beyond that, could be an EBR, a shottie, or perhaps an XD40 Tac. Or, I could just let some bloodthirsty alien life form loose out of the bachelor fridge . . .

sm
April 28, 2007, 10:51 PM
Valkman wins :D

hank327
April 28, 2007, 10:57 PM
Primary home defense is handled by a 4" HB S&W Model 10 backed up by a S&W 642. Both loaded with 158 grn LSWCHP +P.

smithwr3
April 28, 2007, 11:04 PM
I use this.
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qbpc
April 28, 2007, 11:06 PM
My side is a 1100 with 00 buck and the wife has 586 with in reach.:D

.cheese.
April 28, 2007, 11:08 PM
Dorryn
I keep a tame zombie on a chain near the door.

You just gave me an idea for Halloween this year. :D

The Unknown User
April 28, 2007, 11:42 PM
I recommend you get out more often. A remington 870 can be described in many ways but sexy is not one of them. Try to meet some nice young women. You will then be able to differentiate between "sexy" and "utilitarian".I had a feeling that was a bad choice for an adjective. :cool:

MinnMooney
April 28, 2007, 11:55 PM
My Kahr P9 9mm (carry piece) and an XD-45 with light/laser & spare clips for both. Those two should get me to my Rem. 870 Wingmaster (17" bbl. w/sights) loaded with dbl-ot buck and spares on the butt stock.

Thirty years ago, a friend of mine (who had every imaginable weapon available to him) told me that he thought the perfect "home defense weapon" was a gorilla. He said, "Nobody can reason with a 400 lb. gorilla :eek: in the middle of the night!" .............. & I believe him.

Avenger29
April 28, 2007, 11:57 PM
Well, at least the 870 will never leave or cheat on you...

I keep a tame zombie on a chain near the door.

Well, I was going to go with one of those. But right now, I am leasing a mutant armored zombie polar bear. Seems to work pretty good.

michiganfan
April 28, 2007, 11:59 PM
xd 45

RCouch
April 29, 2007, 12:02 AM
.357 in the nightstand, BHP near the front door and KelTec .380 in the study.

GroovedG19
April 29, 2007, 12:06 AM
My daily carry Glock model 17 does double duty at night.It wears green Mepro night sights and 18 rounds of Federal HST 147gr.I keep my Surefire E2D
handy as well as three 33 round mags.

Back-up provided by my Sig Sauer P229 and Beretta 8000F.And plenty of spare mags for each.

bluetopper
April 29, 2007, 12:18 AM
I keep a few Makarovs placed in strategic locations throughout the house.:uhoh:

Chuck R.
April 29, 2007, 12:19 AM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/CFRHunter/X-Mas060958.jpg

Benelli M1S90, M3X light, 7 rounds FED #1 Buck

In a V-Line long gun case with simplex lock under the bed.

and

Sig 220ST M3X light loaded with Rem Golden Sabers in a V-Line pistol vault in my nightstand with an extra mag and a Surefire Z2.

Two Golden Retrievers for early warning

Chuck

MachIVshooter
April 29, 2007, 12:22 AM
First line of defense:

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/RomeoRoxy.jpg

Contingency Plan:

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/100_0343.jpg

And just in case the BG is able to get through the dogs and happens to be wearing Level IV body armor, we keep this as a final solution...........













http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/Ava.jpg

9-1/2 pound of fury right here. She's actually hurt me worse than any other pet I own, and the dogs leave her alone.

Babarsac
April 29, 2007, 12:24 AM
Remington 31 pump loaded with buckshot. I live in an apartment so I don't want to "wake" the neighbors is something happens. Only had to raise it once but that "cha-chunk" sound was all it took.

RebTL
April 29, 2007, 12:35 AM
Ruger P95; if I could shrink this puppy down I'd also use it as my CCW.

SunRunner
April 29, 2007, 01:17 AM
A well trained and extremely vicious guard dog plus anything else I can get my hands onů :)

http://www.seadabbler.com/images2/mik01.jpg

http://www.seadabbler.com/images2/mik02.jpg

http://www.seadabbler.com/images2/mik03.jpg

By the way, my mod 29 S&W .44 mag. revolver was not fired but loaded and ready to go with the same Federal 180gr JHP ammo for 26 years. Nothing was stuck in the cylinder. Before I did fire it last year I ran a patch of Kroil through the barrel just to clean and lube but it did go bang and right on target 6 times. It would have worked without the barrel cleaning.

The Unknown User
April 29, 2007, 01:21 AM
Barbarsac, care to share the story?

heypete
April 29, 2007, 02:35 AM
I keep an XD-45 in the bedside table, loaded with Federal HST 230gr JHPs. 13+1 rounds, with an extra mag in the drawer.

All the longguns are in the safe. I'm in an apartment, so I wouldn't be able to access the safe in case of a unwanted visitors. Still, 27 rounds of HST should be adequate for any situation that I can foresee (indeed, one or two should be adequate). I'd really like to get some sort of holster to attach to the bed frame so I can keep the pistol somewhere other than the drawer -- having to remove the holstered pistol from the drawer, remove it from the holster, aim, and shoot takes precious seconds. If it were holstered and attached to the bed, I could simply draw, aim, and shoot without having to fumble with the holster itself.

collateral
April 29, 2007, 03:01 AM
I have my SKS with the bayonet extended, unloaded but with 2 stripper clips of 120 gr federal vitalshok softpoints nearby, and with 300 rounds of FMJ on stripper clips in mag pouches under my bed. I also have my 10/22 with a 20 round butler creek mag, and 2 10 round factory mags in a pouch.

HayseedDixie
April 29, 2007, 03:10 AM
An inexpensive Hatsan (Turkish) Escort 18" Bbl 12Ga pump with a pressure activated Sure-Fire light mounted to the barrel. Though I have Remingtons and a Benelli that would work equally well, the Escort is the only one of my firearms that doesn't stay locked securely in a safe; my CCW piece being the only other exception. I figure that if someone were to break in and steal any of my guns (ohhh the very thought :barf: ) then I'd rather them get away with a $169.00 shotgun than any of my other pieces. If anyone has been contemplating an inexpensive shotgun for general use, these work great. I took it to the range immediately after purchasing it and fired it dozens of times to make certain it would function should it ever need to. Patterns as well as anything, and ate every kind of load I fed it.

yongxingfreesty
April 29, 2007, 03:22 AM
http://i11.tinypic.com/3zhjamo.jpg

and this when i run out

http://i12.tinypic.com/4379udt.jpg

coelacanth
April 29, 2007, 07:23 AM
The first line of defense - warning signs posted "No Soliciting" @ the front door and "Bad Idea" @ the back door. We've never actually had anyone get past the tripwires on the claymores but if they do the dogs have been promised first dibs on survivors. The 12 gauge double is a sentimental favorite of mine but the rest of the household favors handguns and edged weapons in various flavors.

jad0110
April 29, 2007, 07:56 AM
9-1/2 pound of fury right here. She's actually hurt me worse than any other pet I own, and the dogs leave her alone.

Sounds like she needs to be your 1st line of defense :D :p !

GlenJ
April 29, 2007, 08:05 AM
Mossberg 500 loaded with #4 shot
GLOCK 26 with 115gr +P Cor-Bon
Kel-Tec P3AT with 90GR +P Cor-Bon
Kel-Tec P32 with Cor-Bon and FMJ Combo.

revolverman357
April 29, 2007, 09:15 AM
S&W 649, 158GR Speer Gold Dots

66912
April 29, 2007, 05:59 PM
I live up a six mile long rutted road which leads to a two mile long gated driveway. If someone gets that far, they have the motion sensored floodlights, remote security cameras, Three territorial dogs and a fiery redhead for a girlfriend (She has her own gunsafe) to deal with. I feel pretty safe. Otherwise, if something goes bump in the night, it is either a Ithaca M37, SW 686 or Colt Combat Commander to smooth things out.

Travis McGee
April 29, 2007, 06:13 PM
Remington 870 with an extended mag tube loaded with 00.

Zach S
April 29, 2007, 06:14 PM
Primary HD gun is a RRA 9mm AR15 with a 9 volt surefire.

I prefer my Mossberg 590 (also with a surefire), however the lady is comfortable with the AR, so its what I leave out.

I'm waiting on my 5.56 upper, it will likely take the place of the 9mm. Same recoil (recoil?), same controls, etc, just more noise.

The HD gun would probably be my Glock 19 with an M3. Its not dedicated for HD, its my beater. Car gun, yard gun, etc. It's almost never locked up.

Babarsac
April 29, 2007, 06:24 PM
As asked before I only had to pull out the shotgun once in an HD situation. Two punks were trying to jimmy the lock on my house out in the Mojave Desert. Right as they open the door they here the "cha-chunk" of me chambering a round into my Remington 31. I don't think I've seen anyone run as fast as they did, and now I always keep it handy near my bed.

In reality I think I was as scared as they were. :uhoh:

jeep-2
April 29, 2007, 07:00 PM
A yellow Lab

oneshooter
April 29, 2007, 07:04 PM
On my side of the bed, a Bushy 223 w/ a 20rd mag containing 50gr HP in the well and another 20rd on the stock loaded with SS109 Green Tip, my LW Commander w/2 mags (my CCW) loaded with Speer flying ashtrays. Loving Wife has her IJ 30carbine with a 15rd mag in the well and 2 on the stock, all loaded with Win. 110gr HP, and a Smith M60 loaded with 140gr HP.
2 70lb dogs in the front room.:evil:

We sleep well at night!:D

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

Deer Hunter
April 29, 2007, 07:54 PM
60 dogs outside
2 dogs inside.

After that, an FAL, a few CZs, maybe the SKS or shotgun... Who knows? But I'd hate to shoot anyone who's mentally incompetent. That is, whoever doesn't get scared off by 60+ dogs barking at them has something obviously wrong with their head.

tecrsq
April 29, 2007, 11:03 PM
Primary = 130 lb. Rottweiler

Backup = Glock 40 cal. with a tactical light and several spare magazines

Worst Case = Bushmaster w/ plenty of accessories and magazines

XD Fan
April 29, 2007, 11:05 PM
My phone with 911 set as a speed dial...:barf: :barf: :barf:

Aaryq
April 29, 2007, 11:22 PM
Ruger P89, Mossberg 20 Ga. Bolt gun, and if I run out of ammo an aluminum baseball bat. I also have a Black Lab and a highly trained vicious attack kitten

The Lone Haranguer
April 30, 2007, 01:56 AM
Whatever gun I carried that day. Usually this is a S&W M&P (the pistol, not the revolver AKA the Model 10) compact 9mm.

daysleeprx
April 30, 2007, 02:58 AM
1911 with DoubleTap 230gr Gold Dots (extra mags in the nighstand!), Winchester Defender with federal reduced recoil 00B, and a CZ SP-01 that's not immediately available, but handy in case the first two don't work out for whatever reason. :)

bpisler
April 30, 2007, 05:57 AM
3" S&W 10-7 with 158gr LSWCHP +P's and a
mossberg 500A with Remington managed
recoil 00 buck.There's also a 4 D cell mag
light and my cell phone on my night stand.

ithacalover
May 1, 2007, 02:08 AM
Ithaca m37 12-gauge pump with sawed (20 inch?) cylinder bore barrel. Winchester 00 Buck, 12 pellets.

gego
May 1, 2007, 02:52 AM
My Cairn terrier died. He would have been more likely to squeal with excitement to see someone than to bark anyway. He saved the barking for squirrels and cows.

So I guess that leaves my wife and I each with short barreled 870's and 00 under the bed along with a .357 revolver in the car and a .357 revolver in the downstairs office. Also we each have an old .38 revolver in our respective nightstands as backup.

I unload everything before the grandkids arrive for a visit, but otherwise keep them all loaded and ready to grab.

AlaskaErik
May 1, 2007, 03:58 AM
Just my Glock 23. The shotgun and AR-15 are locked up in the safe. If the dog's barking doesn't get rid of an intruder, the first shot from the Glock should do the trick.

TheDisturbed1
May 1, 2007, 04:04 AM
The .223 AK, and a Nylon 66 for the smaller intruders :p

al1599
May 1, 2007, 04:29 AM
A Glock 36 with a 6 round and a 7 round mag. But I don't think I've heard of too much burglaries since I moved to Texas from CA

Plink
May 1, 2007, 04:53 AM
Ruger P-97 for the most part. A loaded Remington 870 is handy just in case there's time to grab it. I'd rather have more than a handgun, but the handgun is next to the bed and I can have it in my hand faster than I can clear the sleep from my eyes anyway.

I have my AK with a 75 round drum in it, but I keep the drum unwound. I figure if I ever need to step up that far, a couple seconds winding it is no big deal.

I also have 2 large old english sheepdogs that tend to deter most problems and would at least delay them long enough for me to act. Although I consider them family so their purpose is as alarms only. I'll deal with the problem myself rather than chance them getting hurt.

The most important parts of my home defense, besides the dogs, is something I encourage everyone to consider. An alarm, and X-10 controllers. The alarm is self explanatory. The X-10's are an inexpensive way to control the electronics in your house. I keep a wireless X-10 remote next to the gun. In a "situation" I can remotely turn on any light in the house. This puts an intruder suddenly standing in a lighted room, while I'm standing outside of it in the dark. No flashlight giving away my position. Of course I carry a flashlight just in case, but it's sure better to light up the intruder with the X-10's if possible. Even if you can't have an alarm for whatever reason, I encourage you to look into adding the inexpensive X-10 controllers to your home. They aren't permanent, so they're even ideal for renters.

A few years back I actually had to put this system to the test.

db_tanker
May 1, 2007, 07:27 AM
Primary would be my 92FS Inox with 15 rounds of Federal hydra-shoks.

IF you get passed that or if I need somthing with more authority then my Ithaca M-37 cruiser has 5 rounds of winchester 1 oz slugs that can answer any questions a BG might have.


D

SAG0282
May 1, 2007, 07:31 AM
Either of my SIGs or XD on my nightstand, the Mossberg in my closet.

CajunBass
May 1, 2007, 07:46 AM
A lifesized cardboard cuttout of Rosie O'Donnel I stand in front of the picture window with a light on it.

It'll turn back an armoured division. :D

flashman70
May 1, 2007, 08:52 AM
A lifesized cardboard cuttout of Rosie O'Donnel I stand in front of the picture window with a light on it.


I think that would be defined under the Geneva convention as torture. Certainly cruel and unusual. :barf:

JWarren
May 1, 2007, 09:24 AM
There is the way I AM doing it, and the way I WILL BE doing it as soon as my new (to me) house is restored.

NOW, I have my Vector AK underfolder in easy reach. I don't have kids, and I rarely have visitors IN my house, so I have no problem with having it in easy reach at the present.

When I finish this endless restoration project (hopefully in the next month) it will consist of more than simply a firearm-- it will be an integrated home defense plan.

First Tier: The house it nestled into the woods with no neighbors within miles. The entire lawn is surrounded by thick, impassable woods. The lawn will be surrounded with holly bushes with barbed wire ran on the exterior side inside the bush. The front gate is electronic-opening with spiked top.

Second Tier: Alarm system, storm windows, dual-side deadbolds on exterior doors, motion sensitive floodlights around the house.

Third Tier: Two noisy Jack Russell Terriers-- harmless, but noisy and attentive to uninvited guests.

Fourth Tier: Vector AK underfolder by the bed with either the Glock 19 or 1911 .45 ACP next to it. If I am in the back of the house, I have access to other firearms-- Romanian AK, Remington 870, Saiga 308 (not good for overpenetration)


Not perfect, but nothing ever is.


-- John

cwmcgu2
May 1, 2007, 09:42 AM
First Line of Defense: A dog who barks at any audable noise from outside the apartment.

Second Line of Defense: A Benelli Supernova.

Third Line of Defense: Only needed for zombies or gang of bad-guys from a Michael Bay or Jerry Brockheimer film... not to worried.

pcosmar
May 1, 2007, 09:52 AM
JWarren,
Not perfect, but nothing ever is.
Wow, just wow.
I have Glass doors, and no locks.
Not a problem.

pierre bouchard
May 1, 2007, 09:58 AM
A pepper spray and a Palco stun gun

MHBushmaster
May 1, 2007, 10:01 AM
Primary: Bushmaster M4 with an Eotech 552 loaded out with 30 rounds of Guat 55 grain loaded to XM-193 specs with a Surefire 6P light. (spare mag in bedside table).

Backup: Remington 870: Scattergun technologies tube extension, hogue tactical slide, Mesa Tactical telestock with an A2 pistol grip, 18.5" Imp Cyl barrel with rifle sights, mini-mag light on a barrel-clamp loaded out with 3" Winchester Supreme copper plated 00 buck, 6 shells, emty chamber.

Wifes Primary: Springfield XD-40, 10 in the mag, 1 in the tube, 165gr Hornady TAP HP with a double D mag light.

Outlaw Man
May 1, 2007, 10:04 AM
I have an 870 loaded with 00 Hevi-Shot buck (I have brick firewalls or long distances seperating me from my neighbors and no one living with me) ready to go. I usually have my Pro-9 very close if the situation warranted a handgun.

whited
May 1, 2007, 11:07 AM
The volume and quality of information on threads like these cause me to
wonder who else is reading these pages.

JWarren
May 1, 2007, 12:08 PM
The volume and quality of information on threads like these cause me to
wonder who else is reading these pages.

True. I still have some surprises though.

As I figure, the ones that are most likely to break into my home are meth addicts who neither have the inclination nor the attention span to search THR.


-- John

whited
May 1, 2007, 12:59 PM
I know, I'm just being paranoid or cynical or both. You have to agree,
though, that if a determined individual (or group of individuals) were to
put forth some effort, profiles could be assembled on many of us with
some detail. For example, by compiling info on readily accessible threads,
one could determine through cross referencing and get a good idea of
the following, and maybe more:

-Age
-Sex
-Marital status and family size
-Approximate (if not precise city) location
-Political views (including likely voting history)
-Television viewing habits
-NRA/GOA/other group membership
-CCW status
-Carry frequency
-Firearms owned
-Storage method(s) for firearms
-Ammunition stores
-Firearms training
-Approximate skill level with firearms
-Hunter status

In fact, many of us have some of this info in our sigs. I dunno.
Just an observation. I'll leave it alone.

ripcurlksm
May 1, 2007, 01:06 PM
Bull dogs dont do squat besides bark. It serves the same function as a lab or poodle :)

PvtPyle
May 1, 2007, 01:10 PM
I use a suppressed M4 with 55gr ammo. Good velocity, not a lot of noise and it does not go thru nearly as many layers of sheetrock. I do not have a light on it, but then again I don't need one. I can see them without it.:evil:

pcosmar
May 1, 2007, 01:38 PM
whited Observed,
I know, I'm just being paranoid or cynical or both. You have to agree,
though, that if a determined individual (or group of individuals) were to
put forth some effort, profiles could be assembled on many of us with
some detail. For example, by compiling info on readily accessible threads,
one could determine through cross referencing and get a good idea of
the following, and maybe more:
I am not hard to find. Between a web page,blog, and forum posts You could get to my house.
I am not paranoid, I am sociable, friendly and I like to meet new people. I believe that most folks are good folks. Stop by and say hi.
Those that aren't nice, I can usually deal with also.
I am almost 50. I will not live in fear. Who wants to live forever anyway.

whited
May 1, 2007, 02:26 PM
I know, I'm jus' sayin' !

I don't choose to live in a culture of fear, either. Fear promotes and
facilitates Control. I've just chosen to be a bit more discrete with the
subject of firearms in light of recent events, that's all.

Machete
May 1, 2007, 02:27 PM
Xd-45

kellyj00
May 1, 2007, 02:36 PM
rem 870 with alternating rounds of 00 buck and 1oz slugs. 18.5 barrel, led flashlight and laser. Factory buttstock.

I keep it safety-off and with it just barely cocked. The best deterrent is a "ka-chunk" of a 12 gauge. I'd crap my pants if I was a BG.

jcramin
May 1, 2007, 02:49 PM
When im home a SM1911SC and a doberman.

When im not home and the rest of the family is home.
A doberman and a SW908 and a KAHR PM9

J

PvtPyle
May 1, 2007, 02:54 PM
Of course the badguys know where to find me. I had to put the address on my FFL:p

Plink
May 1, 2007, 03:58 PM
18.5" Imp Cyl barrel with rifle sights, mini-mag light on a barrel-clamp loaded out with 3" Winchester Supreme copper plated 00 buck

Shotguns are notorious for pulling the bulbs on mini-mags when fired. You might want to look into a less recoil sensitive light setup.

floridaboy
May 1, 2007, 04:12 PM
A coonhound for alerting, and a Colt New Service in .455 for settling up.

ptmmatssc
May 1, 2007, 05:23 PM
I'd rather it be a "surprise" as to what I keep around for HD :D

kungfuhippie
May 1, 2007, 05:39 PM
a cell phone...if I lock myself in the bathroom I'm sure the police will get here in time:banghead:

Oh wait...
A star model B 9mm with two extra mags loaded with WWB JHP (only HP I trust 100% to feed in that gun)
A yugo 59/66 sks with night sights and a extended blade bayonet, bolt open and a stripper clip resting in place to load it with SP wolf, and another stripper next to it...if 25 rds. of 9mm and 10-20 rds of 7.62x39 doesn't do it I hope the bayonet can finish the job.

If I'm up against a zombie invasion...I'll arm the neighborhood...we should last quit a while. When the zombies come no-one calls you a gun nut anymore :neener:

augustus_01
May 1, 2007, 05:59 PM
Stevens 67 12ga. Pump w/ 18" Barrel

S&W Model 10 .38 Special Revolver

4" Cold Steel Tanto

MachIVshooter
May 1, 2007, 06:03 PM
The volume and quality of information on threads like these cause me to
wonder who else is reading these pages.

In my neck of the woods, people who don't have multiple dogs and firearms for HD are few and very far between. I'm not giving up much here.

If anything, I'd say threads like this would be a good indication of which houses the criminally inclined should avoid at all costs.

I may be mistaken, but I see no one giving up their physical address, work schedule and alarm codes here. Those are the details a criminal would be looking for, not what type of dog will bite him or what type of round he'll absorb upon entering the house.

Hogfan1911
May 1, 2007, 07:34 PM
I just have the wife flash 'em, then I whack 'em over the head with a frying pan while they're distracted.:neener:

sadhvacman
May 1, 2007, 07:37 PM
mossberg maverick 88 12 gauge no plug with 00buck 2 3/4" shells with an hs strut undertaker choke

Stevie-Ray
May 1, 2007, 07:46 PM
H&K USP45C, HydraShoks loaded, double action, safety on.

If disaster strikes, then Colt AR-15 Tactical carbine, EOTech, flashlight, laser, 40 round mags.

rocinante
May 1, 2007, 10:39 PM
IZ 109 Saiga, 19 inch 12 guage automatic with pistol grip, folding stock, and 10 round mag of 00 buckshot. If you think the ratcheting of a pump shotgun is intimidating just listen to the noise pulling the bolt of that bad boy makes.

ripcurlksm
May 1, 2007, 11:52 PM
I dial 1911

MS .45
May 2, 2007, 12:08 AM
Glock 17 w/ 124gr Golden Saber +P and an mag of the same(35 rounds at the ready). Surefire Z2 keeps it company. Other choices are within 10 feet if these don't get the job done.

airmonkey
May 2, 2007, 04:11 AM
Mossberg 500 #3 buck for the first four and two slugs for the finale. And a rabid Jack Russell.

jrfoxx
May 2, 2007, 04:58 AM
Mossberg 590 w/3" 00 buck (15 pellets) and .38 special S&W m637 w/Speer 135gr Gold Dot HP 'short barrel'

sacp81170a
May 2, 2007, 05:15 AM
I have a S&W Model 65 in .357 right by the bed, a Mossberg 590, and my CCW piece o' the day on the night stand. My Point Blank vest is in my hawk bag at the foot of my bed with an Uncle Mike's Under Armor holster with a Taurus Millenium PT-145 on it. Actual first line of defense is my GSD, Rudy, and my two cats. :D

Rudy is very possessive of me and my property and the cats, well, let's just say they can get cranky if you get them up out of their nice soft beds. ;)

whited
May 2, 2007, 02:26 PM
I live in Tucson AZ at 345 19th Avenue. White house red trim. Usually a
white Nissan pickup outside that's mine. Four steps up the front porch.
Locks and doorknobs are Schlage F series. Two other points of entry, one
around back and one on the side facing the garage. The garage is always
unlocked, by the way. I have no pets. My firearms include a .357
Smith which is kept in the sock drawer of my dresser, loaded. I have
a number of hunting rifles in locked cases in the closet in my bedroom. My
bedroom can be accessed from the front door by going straight back, past
the kitchen, and taking a right turn.

My name is Bill Swanson and I am a white male age 35. Single, no kids. I
vote Republican normally, and I haven't committed any felonies. I have never
served in the military. I work as a landscape designer at Ferris Landscapes
in Tucson, and I've been there for 3 years. I have no history of mental
illness and I am not currently on any medication. I have a CCW and I carry often.

My hobbies include darts, gardening, and reloading.

irishvet
May 2, 2007, 03:05 PM
Tauras 445 (.44spl.) with flang. rounds under the bed and a cell phone with a Tauras PT99 with 2 clips of hollow points in the bath room.:cool:

Mumwaldee
May 2, 2007, 03:17 PM
...with a Tauras PT99 with 2 clips of hollow points in the bath room.

Good work! Don't let them catch you with your pants down....when your pants are down.

Mossberg 12 ga persuader 00 buck
Ruger P89 147 hollowpoints
and hopefully soon
Glock 21SF loaded up with Federal HSTs! (backorder sucks)

skud_dusty
May 2, 2007, 03:25 PM
XD9 kept close to me while I sleep with Hornadys, chamber empty.

Close by computer is a Taurus mil pro in .45. Working on my CCW.

DomMega
May 2, 2007, 03:44 PM
Tactical Remington 870 combat shotgun with 3 Hornady SST slugs and the rest Hornady TAP shells with five more on my shell holder on the stock.

I have a loaded XD-40 with 3 glaser blue safety slugs and 7 federal hydra-shock hollow points. If need be I also have the Para Ordnance P14 filled with Extreme Shock anti-terrorist munitions in the closet.

The 20 gauge I just keep for skeet shooting and snake control.

I live in Los Angeles, its not pretty out here.

News Shooter
May 2, 2007, 03:45 PM
You da man!:D

ArfinGreebly
May 2, 2007, 05:29 PM
Yes.

Cell phone.

What?

You don't think I'm gonna clean up that body and blood by myself, do ya!?

That's what the cell phone's for.

I mean, you could just wait until the next morning and all that, but I think it's common courtesy to call the constabulary and EMT guys before things dry to the point where it's hard to clean and things start to smell.

And then I call Merry Maids to do the rest. They have the tools for cleanups like that.

That avoids excessive damage to my hardwood floors, area rugs, and other surfaces.

After all, if you don't defend your investment in the home, the appraiser will stick it to you.

That's proper home defense.

PRazz
May 2, 2007, 06:12 PM
"And then I call Merry Maids to do the rest."

I'd send that bill to the perps family, or take them to small claims for it. Why should you have to pay for all that.

sm
May 2, 2007, 06:40 PM
Some folks I know and what they use.

1. Lady has Osteo so bad, she stepped down one morning getting out of bed and broke her foot. Doctors orders, no driving, no heavy recoil.
She has a faithful "mutt" she found at the 'dog pound' years ago, better locks, motion lights, alarm, ...and uses Marlin 60s , all she can use.

2. Born without an arm on weak side below elbow, again we have a lady, with the home secure, a plain old dog that is very protective. She uses Revolvers, prefers Model 10s with standard pressure 158gr.
She is quite good with a 1100 in .410 with slugs.

3. Wheelchair bound gentleman, always carries CCW, and is still quite good with a 870 20 ga pump.
He too beefed up home security, guns just part of the tools.
His faithful dog got sick and died.
He is considering another dog, just the pain still hurts from losing the one he had for so long.

shadowalker
May 2, 2007, 06:52 PM
I carry my Sig P229 any time I'm not at work, at night I have Mossberg 590 loaded with #00 buck 4 feet from bed in a cabinet, Sig P229 40 S&W with 165 Remington Golden Saber in bed side GunVault. My wife has her XD SC 9mm with 124 +p in her bed side GunVault.

I also have a XD 45 ACP for upstairs use.

Stevie-Ray
May 2, 2007, 07:02 PM
I'd send that bill to the perps family, or take them to small claims for it. Why should you have to pay for all that.Now that's a great idea. I would call that poetic justice to hit the perp's family with that while the're on camera saying, "He was always a good boy!"

Sean85746
May 3, 2007, 12:02 AM
Whited wrote:

I live in Tucson AZ at 345 19th Avenue. White house red trim. Usually a
white Nissan pickup outside that's mine. Four steps up the front porch.
Locks and doorknobs are Schlage F series. Two other points of entry, one
around back and one on the side facing the garage. The garage is always
unlocked, by the way. I have no pets. My firearms include a .357
Smith which is kept in the sock drawer of my dresser, loaded. I have
a number of hunting rifles in locked cases in the closet in my bedroom. My
bedroom can be accessed from the front door by going straight back, past
the kitchen, and taking a right turn.

My name is Bill Swanson and I am a white male age 35. Single, no kids. I
vote Republican normally, and I haven't committed any felonies. I have never
served in the military. I work as a landscape designer at Ferris Landscapes
in Tucson, and I've been there for 3 years. I have no history of mental
illness and I am not currently on any medication. I have a CCW and I carry often.

My hobbies include darts, gardening, and reloading.

When did they put a 19th Ave in Tucson?

R.H. Lee
May 3, 2007, 12:12 AM
No handguns. Two long guns. A Marlin 336 and Winchester Defender 12 gauge. Come git some.

cbsbyte
May 3, 2007, 12:19 AM
Break into my house and you will find out.

ArfinGreebly
May 3, 2007, 01:46 AM
When did they put a 19th Ave in Tucson?

It's a stealth address.

When they rename Grande Ave, it's gonna be called 19th Ave.

Oh, rats, was I supposed to keep that a secret?

merkaba
May 3, 2007, 12:29 PM
1. "Organic Defense System" = Dog that barks at any little noise

2. S&W 686 6" w/ 158 gr. HydraShocks about 2' from my head when sleeping
3. 870 with buckshot in the closet, about 4' away
4. couple nice knives behind the bed
5. keep car remote next to me so I can hit the panic button, horn honking and lights flashing, good chance some would-be intruders will just take off, maybe not all, but it might buy me some time if they didn't run off to prepare
6. cell phone next to the car remote

clipse
May 3, 2007, 12:57 PM
My SA 1911A1 GI. :)

http://www.alwayssafe.org/artistic/oldtimer.jpg

Along with my 870.

http://www.alwayssafe.org/shotgun.jpg

WeThePeople
May 3, 2007, 01:56 PM
Whatever I carried that day is my home defense. My wife keeps her .357 at the ready although she said last night that she would like to have a shotgun for home defense. :)

Sigdude
May 3, 2007, 07:55 PM
are the best.
The sound of the 12 gauge being racked is enough to make an intruder crap-his-pants.Then a pistiol,just a simple revoler is all you need.This tucked in your jammies or underwear.
Like my O.P. said, Remington 870 12 gauge pump,with my pet Sig P220 .45.
Ready,willing,and able ! :fire:

Lets Roll !

grimjaw
May 3, 2007, 09:34 PM
clipse, that's some mighty pretty wood on that 870. Is that stock?

For me, I keep the G19 handy pretty much wherever. I need to get my own 870 tried and practiced; I've never even fired it.

jm

skywalkrNCSU
May 4, 2007, 02:59 AM
beretta 1201fp semi-auto 12 guage :D

http://www.tmcarms.com/images/Beretta_1201FP_J1202401.jpg

JaxNovice
May 4, 2007, 09:23 AM
I would use my wife as home defense. If someone broke in I would send her out to nag him to death.

koja48
May 4, 2007, 10:31 AM
A lifesized cardboard cuttout of Rosie O'Donnel I stand in front of the picture window

I've always wanted a great big window. Is that much tempered glass very expensive?

mlandman
May 4, 2007, 10:56 AM
First line is a pair of Mastiff mixes...

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8044/pvvp2.jpg

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/268/img20050126002kg7.jpg

and then it depends where I am at home. I hate to say it, but the pups are sacrificial. If a real BG wants in, they will shoot the dogs. By then I will be ready.

GEM
May 4, 2007, 10:59 AM
If you got the rug dirty, my wife would rip you to shreds.

Anyway, typical me - first available is a Glock and a Surefire. If we do hunker down in the designated safe room, an AR-15 with lights and loaded with TAP.

I don't buy the 'shotgun' cliche, boring. Rack, Rack, Rack - you still here - oops - I unloaded by gun.

MHBushmaster
May 4, 2007, 04:10 PM
Why do folks perpetuate the myth that the sound of a shotun slide being worked is somehow going to make an intruder leave? If anything, it just gives away your location as well as announce, "Hey, I have a shotgun". If this were true, why not just dub in some audio of a shotgun being racked and have it set to go off when the alarms are set or something, "Shuck-SHUCK, Shuck-SHUCK, Shuck-SHUCK...":rolleyes:
I mean sure, alot of folks here think a shotgun is the end all for home defense, but what happens if your intruder is armed, and what is to stop them from just opening up on your location with whatever firearm they brought? Even a lowely .22 or .32 will penetrate interior wallboards with enough energy left to be lethal...and since you have revealed your location, they know the general direction of you, and they may just start blazing away inside your house as they retreat in fear:rolleyes:
Also, why do alot of folks insist on arming themselves at a disadvantage? Why choose a handgun as a primary means of home defense? Handguns are less capable of incapacating an intruder than a rifle, or a shotgun, and offer no advantages to a rifle. This is not a claim, but a fact, handguns are lousy at doing the jobs compared to a rifle/carbine. Check out the box o truth website to see how different calibers of firearms stack up for penetration test of different materials: clothing, drywall, car doors, etc. Very informative.

Before you all say, well MHBushmaster, I can move around my house and clear rooms better with a pistol than a rifle...Folks, that is where a carbine comes in, a 16" AR or AK extends out only a few inches beyond the distance in front of you where your pistol is extended out from your body. Try it if you don't believe me. Also, good luck wrestling a carbine from someone with their finger on the trigger with two hands on the rifle = gunshot wounds/lead poisoning for the person grabbing onto the rifle....where as a handgun with any type pistol grip/stance does not achieve the same amount of rentention as a carbine...None of this is my research, I cannot claim credit for this info, the good folks at gunsite, blackwater among others and your tax dollars in the DOD have made these determinations and train accordingly. And if you are a .223 hater/mousegun believer, think then of a .30 carbine such as a mini-30 or an AK in 7.62x39 or a FAL para in 7.62x51.
My choice is a Bushmaster or RRA (depends on which is out for HD at the time) 16" carbine loaded with 55 GR XM-193, 30 rounds on tap with a Surefire flashlight to illuminate in front of me...I keep a shotgun as a backup to my carbine because I have a healthy dose of being over-prepared.

I am not trying to flame folks, just trying to understand why so many choose a "tool" that is inherently not the best for the task at hand (home defense).
And if you don't have access to a carbine and only a pistol or shotgun, then that makes sense, this is for folks who have the tools that I am asking my questions to...
Flame suite on.

physics
May 4, 2007, 04:32 PM
dub in some audio of a shotgun being racked and have it set to go off when the alarms are set or something, "Shuck-SHUCK, Shuck-SHUCK, Shuck-SHUCK..."
I would just like to say, this is an awesome idea... LMAO!

I personally use all my guns for HD. Saiga 12, Wasr-10, AR-15 and an XD .45 all strewn about my house, fully loaded with extra mags hidden close by.

However, I do see one huge downside with the rifles, and that is over-penetration. I don't want to shoot through 6 walls, a person and then a brick wall. I'm happy to just stop the bad guy, maybe even penetrate 1 wall, but I know for damn sure that if someone is coming through my side door, I better not break out the AK, because there is a house with a newborn right next door. Basically, I'd rather not be responsible for the death of any innocent bystanders because my bullet went too far, that's not exactly protecting yourself.

single action
May 4, 2007, 04:50 PM
1)Stevens 311 12ga 18" barrels, 00 buck
2) Wife with bad attitude

If the intruder gets past her, Ill shoot him just to put him out of his misery.

MHBushmaster
May 4, 2007, 05:07 PM
YES! Overpenetration is an issue, but you must prioritize your response:
Do you risk not doing enough to stop an attacker so you don't risk hurting someone else downrange, or do you plan for the one 1 problem that is for sure, making sure you put lead on target to ensure you and your families safety, and then concern yourself about the rest of the world. Sounds caustic and maybe reckless to some, but its how it has to be done. The only way to not overpenetrate your attacker is to use a low penetrating load, alas which will not reliably incapactitate your attacker which defeats the purpose of you actually fighting back in the first place.
So you have to choose: pissoff the drugged-up attacker with a fleshwound or risk a possible over-penetration to reach vital organs and the CNS to stop the attack immediately and then take steps to reduce overpenetration: like learn the lane of fire you are mostly likely to use and see what really is downrange, create backstops to stop errant rounds, use a load that penetrates less but still reaches to where it needs to stop the bad guy with proper shot placement. Thus I use 55 grain, XM-193 spec ammo. It fragments like crazy in the ranges I will be utilizing it in my home and actually penetrates less then buckshot, slugs, or pistol ammo in wall boards found in most homes.
Read the box of truth, google it, you will find a wealth of knowledge there relating to ammo penetration tests in realistic environmnets using realistic stuff that you and I as Joe and Jane Q. Citizen have access to.
Bottom line, you have to be willing to overpenetrate to stop the attacker. Frangible ammo, birdshot, etc just do not cut it for stopping a determined attacker. Science supports this. In order to reache the vital organs and Central Nervous System, you need rounds that have the energy to get there. You can also take steps to avoid OVER KILL OVER PENETRATION, as in don't use a 4 bore or even a 2 bore rifle to stop an intruder, if you don't know what a 4 bore is, google it baby! 55grain and up .223 ammo will is devasting at reaching the CNS of an attacker with less over penetration.

usa1993
May 4, 2007, 08:32 PM
Glock 19
15 rd factory mag with +2 ext.
Glock tac light attached
Hornady 124 TAPs

theken206
May 4, 2007, 08:51 PM
all depends, whats broken down and being cleaned, whos around{IE do I have guest around and are they safe around firearms??}

Its usally I leave out/have handy a one of my long guns and have pistol handy in a drawer or under a cushion ect ect for checking the door at night stuff like that.

J-NM
May 4, 2007, 09:10 PM
38 sp.
45
44 lever action rifle
ak47

KC&97TA
May 5, 2007, 01:44 AM
#1. Beretta 92FS, loaded with M882 ball, 15 in the mag, 2nd mag loaded next to it, optimized with Crimson Trace Grips - zero'd to 12 yards and a trigger job.

If 9mm ain't stopping the threat, we get #2

#2. RRA Tacticial Entry, 30 round mag, filled 25 deep with M885 SS109 AP, optimized with a surefire, 3pt sling and broom stick.

If #1 & 2 don't do the job there is usally 2-5 loaded .45acp mags with 230gr... Grandpa said that a .45 would take out a 200lb man with one shot... but I don't feel like turning my .45's over to the Police for balistics or Dropping them on the ground when the LEO arrive.

Key to all of this is to have a "PLAN"; Get Primary weapon, Arm Wife, Determine threat, Dial 9-1-1, remove threat, inform LEO... work on angles of fire, avenues of approch, determine which walls over penetration isn't an option.

jkingrph
May 5, 2007, 04:02 PM
A Marlin lever action .410 shotgun (new) loaded with 000 buckshot.

KINGMAX
May 5, 2007, 04:19 PM
A Pit Bull w/ AIDS

KINGMAX
May 5, 2007, 04:32 PM
My dog will only hold the door open, and show the burgler where 'DAD' keep's the good stuff at. So I depend on a 'Home Security System'. = 'GLOCK 21 / .45 acp, and a Remington 870 Express loaded w/ 3 inch #4 Buck shot. The # 4 buck shot is about the size of a pencil eraser, now count about a dozen of those pellets coming at you, 'no place to hide' = It's going to hurt !!!

Rack the slide, and they will hide !!

ArfinGreebly
May 6, 2007, 03:44 AM
Does it count if I have a sign in the yard that reads:

Warning: Intruders must
wear protective clothing
and headgear; hearing
protection advised.
(Pursuant to NRS 618.890 - 618.900)

daysleeprx
May 6, 2007, 03:46 AM
Rack the slide, and they will hide !!

Why would you want them to hide? Don't you want them out where you can see em so that shotgun can be put to use? :evil:

fiVe
May 6, 2007, 04:31 AM
Maverick 88 6-shot Security 12 gauge.

45King
May 6, 2007, 11:41 AM
Winchester '94 Trapper in .45 Colt, backed by an Ithaca 37 12 ga. in riot configuration, backed by a Baer TR Special .45ACP, with a Smith 640 .357 as final backup.

Tinmancr
May 6, 2007, 10:17 PM
I think I am ok... really I got a bat old school wood, carpenters hammer and my mk3 22/45 40 gr solids.
I must be better off than I previously thought.
And I should sleep well tonight knowing they are after you guys and not me!
Remember paranoia is a drug, the more you have the more you need.

ripcurlksm
May 6, 2007, 10:54 PM
1911 and 12 gauge semi auto

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aaronrkelly
May 7, 2007, 02:02 AM
I prefer to keep it simple 12 ga pump....

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/aaronsguns/All%20Guns/maverick88.jpg

Waywatcher
May 7, 2007, 04:16 AM
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Loaded with 125 grain JHP's

swingset
May 7, 2007, 05:27 AM
First line of defense, 100lbs of loud black lab (won't hurt ya, but he'll make enough noise to let me know you're there).

Second line, M&P .40 in a bedroom quick access safe, 180gr. gold dots.

Third line, 14.5" lightweight AR loaded with 75gr. TAP.

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