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Damien45
April 29, 2007, 09:13 AM
I absolutely love this Mossberg 500
http://www.galleryofguns.com/prod_images/54125-MOS.jpg

The question is, can I own one in CA? I am Military stationed here, and can own one in AZ. Does that matter? I would change the buttstock to this:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/mossberg/moss_38819.jpg

Brigrat
April 29, 2007, 12:58 PM
I would be careful making that stock change...if you can, try a Mossy out with that stock before you buy it...The pump release lever is located in a position that makes it nearly impossible to use with the AR-15 style stock. I tried one the other day, and was suprised at how difficult it was to use. I am a full on mossberg guy and have been since I had one in the Marines. I simply do not like that stock choice...it does look cool though.

glockman19
April 29, 2007, 02:57 PM
I'd say YES to both. Top one has Muzzle Break & Pistol grip. 2 evil features OK.

the bottom one also looks OK pistol grip and adjustable Stock again 2 evil features check out:
Cal Guns Net for further info
http://www.calguns.net/

marklbucla
April 29, 2007, 03:18 PM
Features don't matter on pump guns, only the overall length and barrel lengths matter. The AWB has nothing to do with Pumps.

I don't know what the rules are for .mil, but the top one appears to be a short barrel shotgun so that should be a no-no for civilians.

Damien45
April 29, 2007, 03:55 PM
I would be careful making that stock change...if you can, try a Mossy out with that stock before you buy it...The pump release lever is located in a position that makes it nearly impossible to use with the AR-15 style stock. I tried one the other day, and was suprised at how difficult it was to use. I am a full on mossberg guy and have been since I had one in the Marines. I simply do not like that stock choice...it does look cool though.

You have a point and I should give it a try to be sure. I wasn't going for the cool look. I like the shorter reach to the pump option. When I shot the M500 my support hand usually sits between the pump handle and the receiver. So a shorter stock option would put my hand on the pump constantly (in theory).

Damien45
April 29, 2007, 03:56 PM
Features don't matter on pump guns, only the overall length and barrel lengths matter. The AWB has nothing to do with Pumps.

I don't know what the rules are for .mil, but the top one appears to be a short barrel shotgun so that should be a no-no for civilians.

I have seen the JIC available here. Hope that means this one is ok.

trickyvic
April 30, 2007, 01:51 AM
Yup, both are legal.
Here's my Mossy.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e17/trickyvic/DSC01661.jpg

Damien45
April 30, 2007, 02:24 AM
I will have to look when I get home (tomorrow morning). Pic won't load at work. I have been reading that 3 gun uses 20" barrels....so I guess this one would be out! lol Also, it's a breaching barrel, so I guess that makes a difference too. Eh, the things I am trying to learn! lol

Any help would be great!

Valkman
April 30, 2007, 02:52 AM
They have a 500 with a 20" barrel and a 8-shot capacity. I got one from the wife! :)

Damien45
April 30, 2007, 03:11 AM
Who is they?

Valkman
April 30, 2007, 04:33 AM
Mossberg!

Damien45
April 30, 2007, 04:35 AM
lol I thought you ment a specific store! lol

Well I guess I get the :banghead: for missing the obvious! lol

VARifleman
April 30, 2007, 05:03 AM
trickyvic, is that a Knoxx recoil-reducing stock? How do you like it?

crazed_ss
April 30, 2007, 06:38 AM
The top one is legal I know. Local gun shop got in a shipment of them awhile back and sold out in a couple days. The clerk commented that it was "scary" how fast the things sold.. :)

Damien45
April 30, 2007, 06:45 AM
Where are you located Crazed?

Jesse308
April 30, 2007, 06:38 PM
Both of those Mossberg shotguns are legal in CA. Most gunstores will have them especially Turners.

Mumwaldee
May 1, 2007, 03:00 AM
I would be careful making that stock change...if you can, try a Mossy out with that stock before you buy it...The pump release lever is located in a position that makes it nearly impossible to use with the AR-15 style stock. I tried one the other day, and was suprised at how difficult it was to use. I am a full on mossberg guy and have been since I had one in the Marines. I simply do not like that stock choice...it does look cool though.

Brig is right on with this. I bought that stock and put it on...couldn't easily use the pump release lever. Also the stock made it hard to get a good sight picture using the normal bead sight. Back to the black synthetic I went...at least until I can get an Eotech 512 Tactical Holo Sight!

eric.cartman
May 1, 2007, 01:50 PM
HAHAHA!!!
I just bought the top one you posted, yesterday.
Didn't have a chance to try it out yet :-(

MudCamper
May 1, 2007, 02:54 PM
The CA Assault Weapon definitions always start with "A semiautomatic..." so you can do whatever you want to your pump shotgun so long as you don't shorten it to "short-barreled shotgun" length, which is a barrel length less than 18 inces, or a total overall length of less than 26 inches. Add all the evil features known to man - pistol grip, forward pistol grip, telescoping stock, etc. Your're fine.

trickyvic
May 2, 2007, 02:20 AM
Quote "trickyvic, is that a Knoxx recoil-reducing stock? How do you like it?"

Yes. I don't have much experience with shotguns, but I believe it's one of the best additions one can make to a shotgun. I've been to the range 3 times now and each time I shot 100-120 rounds without even a sore shoulder. It's awesome!

Mumwaldee
May 2, 2007, 03:53 AM
Where were you a few weeks ago Trickyvic!?!? I knew I shouldn't have wasted money on that ATI knock-off. :banghead:

fireflyfather
May 2, 2007, 04:44 PM
Another vote for NOT using the pistolgrip on the 500 series. The slide release lever is EXTREMELY akward to use with a pistolgrip. One of the advantages of a 500/590 over the 870 is the placement of the safety and slide release. It's so natural to use the middle finger when your trigger finger is either on the trigger or resting in the ready position to the side of the trigger. Using anything but a traditional rifle stock messes up that ergonomic, and could cost you a second or two when seconds count. My friend has one with that stock, and I can't stand it.