[bass806]

OK, I saw one at the Dallas gun show this weekend and thought it was cool. What can I do with it and what are any pluses or minuses. Is ammo too expensive? I shoot at a steel range primarily. Will this round make our steel repair/welder guy retire early? With a possible AWB in the future, would this be a good investment? Any thoughts are appreciated.

[EAFO]

Fully loaded, it weighs less then an empty glock. It has almost NO recoil when you shoot, and the ballistics of the 5.7 ammo is just unreal. If you're just plinking, this is probably not the gun for you.

[tinygnat219]

Save yourself the money,

Buy a .22 Magnum. This hyped up .22 pistol isn't worth the money IMHO unless one is recoil sensitive.

[WeThePeople]

I'm also considering the gun. It looks great. My main concern is overpenetration. If I ever do fire in defense, I really don't want the round going through the target.

[PercyShelley]

My first thought is that to fully appreciate those ballistics you would need larger sights than would be practical for carry.

My second thought is that while the intermediate ballistics would be great, the terminal ballistics would be questionable.

If you really need something that shoots long, skinny bullets because you're afraid of antagonists in armor, the 7.62x25 seems more the ticket.

[EAFO]

WTP: You don't have to worry about over penetration. Once it hits its target, it tumbles and yaws instead of continuing through.

Now, if they made something the size of a bersa 380 or the like that was MUCH easier to carry, it would be the perfect CCW.

[Citizen Tommy]

I was trading in my Desert Eagle and considered the FiveSeven. I think it's an interesting concept and maybe three months ago, I would have owned one, but I don't feel it's as practical as a carry piece. I suppose it's on the other end of practical for CCW as the Desert Eagle was.

[M2 Carbine]

Do I need an FN Five Seven????

Probably not.

If you buy the gun because you want one, then that's enough justification for getting one.

I bought my pistol because it's an unusual round and gun and I thought I'd like to reload for it. There are some interesting loads being worked up for it by hand loaders.

The factory ammo is still too expensive for plinking but it can be hand loaded for a very cheap price.
If the big case manufacturers would make new re loadable brass available the cost of shooting the gun would be less than $7 a box.

The round is not just a 22 Mag. If someone shows me a 22 Mag that does 2,000+ fps from a 4 inch barrel, I'll buy two.

The FN 5.7 is an unusual round and gun.
You can buy it and enjoy it for what it is or you can spend your money on just another 9mm or 45.:)

[Bondo_Red]

I'd love to shoot one for little bit at a range,but it's really a combat pistol.plus the 50 cent rounds add up fast.If I was in a war,then it would be 1st choice for a sidearm.If you want one,It will do good in just about whatever you do with.It's just gonna cost a lot.

[Geronimo45]

2,000+ fps from a 4 inch barrel
Gorblimey. Handloads, I reckon?

If you really need something that shoots long, skinny bullets because you're afraid of antagonists in armor, the 7.62x25 seems more the ticket.
I'd agree - if they had a doublestack 7.62 Tok. 57 gives you smaller rounds, but a lot more of 'em than any Tokarev-chambered pistol over here.

Seems to have very low over-penetration, from what I've read. Despite what the Bradys say, FN doesn't sell the Armor-Piercing round to nobody but the coppers - so you shouldn't have too much trouble with it tearing through steel plates. In theory, anyhow.

[aubie515]

I don't know if anyone "needs" one, but they are fun to shoot. If you can afford ammo for it and the PS90, I say go for it. I know that virgin brass wasn't offered for the reloader, so you must buy factory then reload. I recall last year looking into a PS90 and I couldn't justify spending $700 for 2k of ammo. I haven't looked at current prices, but I'm sure it's higher this year.

[Soybomb]

This will draw me some hate I'm sure, but I don't see why. They're armor piercing....if you are leo/mil and can buy armor piercing ammunition. Whooptie do you can buy 9mm AP. Past that the rounds available aren't that great for self defense and seem to generally leave a wound channel smaller than 9mm fmj rounds, which we know everyone thinks are amazing. Its a great gun to buy if you want to have the gun the brady bunch loves to hate but I don't see a practical purpose past plinker.

[M2 Carbine]

Geronimo45

2,000+ fps from a 4 inch barrel

Gorblimey. Handloads, I reckon?

You reckon wrong.
Factory SS-195.
2057 fps over my PACT chronograph.

[nwilliams]

Personaly I think theyre kinda ugly:barf: I'd rather get another 1911 or HK before spending that kind of money on the 5-7, also the ammo is a little pricey IMO.

[aubie515]

I hope most people buy a firearm based on what it can do versus what it looks like. It all boils down to personal preference when choosing a weapon. There are lots of folks who will dismiss the 5.7, but go to the fiveseven forum and you will hear from the fans.

I personally would not want to be hit by a 5.7 bullet. The velocity will do some damage at close range. I wouldn't rely on the 5.7 if I wanted to engage targets over 150 yards. The 5.7 has been around for a few years and various countries are using them in their military and law enforcement.

Just remember that some would argue that the .223 is a weak caliber, but you see what the .223 can do on the battlefield. The 5.7 is an accurate caliber as well. Too bad the AP are not offered anymore to the public.

[atblis]

Comparing 5.7x28 to 5.56 is not a valid comparison.

[possum]

i think you should go for it. my buddies wife allowed him 1000 bucks before the deployment since there might be a ban hitting while we are gone. he just bought his this saturday. we haven't got to shoot it yet, but i am anxious to do so. his came with 3 20rd magazines which i think is totally sweet!

as far as ammo goes. www.natchezss.com mhas a special right now on the ammo they have 2 different kinds. $19.99 for 50rds or if you buy 10 boxes or more you get them for $17.99 a box that is about the cheapest that i have seen it.

[WeThePeople]

I personally would not want to be hit by a 5.7 bullet.

Buddy, I don't want to be hit by a BB!!!

[M2 Carbine]

A while back I shot some wet phone books.
Not to prove anything but just for a comparison of several bullets.

The FN SS195 quickly turned sideways and continued through the books sideways.
One Hornady V Max bullet expanded little and penetrated almost as far as the SS195 but didn't do as much damage because it didn't tumble.
The second Hornady V Max bullet expanded normally and didn't penetrate very far.

The 45 Aguila broke up as designed and the Remington Golden Saber expanded well but both only penetrated a little oner two inches.
Apparently wet phone books are effective bullet stoppers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/FNphonebooks2.jpg

[WinchesterAA]

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=313286


200$ for 500rds. Pretty close to .223.

[Geronimo45]

You reckon wrong.
Factory SS-195.
2057 fps over my PACT chronograph.
Wow. Guess my 'sources' were mixed up with somethin' else. I'd got the notion that it went around 1500 fps.
Thanks for the info. That little round's certainly growing on me.

[M2 Carbine]

Geronimo45 Quote:
Wow. Guess my 'sources' were mixed up with somethin' else. I'd got the notion that it went around 1500 fps.
Thanks for the info. That little round's certainly growing on me.

My light reloads do 1590 fps using a 40gr JSP Hornet bullet.

When it comes down to it, it's still just a medium fast 22 bullet.
I enjoy mine but it's probably not something that many shooters are that interested in spending a lot of money on.

Try and shoot one before you put $800 in one.

[atblis]

Do you plan on being attacked by mutant zombie ground squirrels anytime soon?

:neener:

[Shipwreck]

Yes, you NEED to buy 1 - they are pretty kewl :)

[270Win]

Too damn expensive for what they are. Lower the price $300-400 and I would strongly consider it; and so would many I have talked to. But in the ~$1000 range, I think there are far better options.

[12many]

Ditto. $550 I am in, $1000, nope.

I wonder if they would sell twice as many at $550 as they do at $1000? Plus more ammo, parts, mags, and getting the word out.

[browningguy]

And once again I see the the value of most of the other posters. It would eb a fun range toy for $550 os so, but they run $850 and up here. I could see getting one if that meant I needed to buy a P90 to share ammo with it.:)

[panzermk2]

850 is the norm for a top shelf handgun how cheap are SIGs and HK's? Plus unlike any other makers I can think of (except XD packege deal?) FN includes 3 magazines with there handguns infact they do with all of thier handguns


HK USP Elite NIB 9mm $1,500
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H&K Compact Tactical hk ct 45 usp $1,049.99
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=70864490

Sig Equinox™ 229 40 cal $979.99
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=70836497

[Shipwreck]

I have seen them in the upper $700 region at houston gunshows...