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Arcli9ht
June 18, 2003, 02:22 PM
When asked what the family plans to do with the pig, father DaveySmith said they will mount the head and throw away the rest. Apparently, the pig was too tough to eat.
Aw... I would love to have that much bacon... :D
/Arcli9ht
Elkslayer
June 18, 2003, 05:00 PM
Damn!!! That's a BIG PIG!!!!:what:
gun-fucious
June 18, 2003, 06:29 PM
looks like a lot of domestic pig in the lineage
DadOfThree
June 20, 2003, 01:08 PM
looks like a lot of domestic pig in the lineage
Looks like a pure bred Hampshire boar to me.
When asked what the family plans to do with the pig, father DaveySmith said they will mount the head and throw away the rest
Would he mount the head of a stray Holstein if he shot it? :D :D
Sisco
June 20, 2003, 01:17 PM
"Proceeded to shoot it four times in the shoulder with his .357-caliber rifle.
"It didn't even phase him," said Corey Smith. "He just kept running."
After Corey's wife woke up Jeff, the two brothers chased the pig into the woods, where they shot him five more times and killed him.
I think when I went into the woods looking for it, I would've taken something a little bigger. I would imagine a wounded 870 lb hog would be just a little pissed.
Jhaislet
November 2, 2003, 01:10 AM
I live not more than 15 miles from where that boar was shot! I need to go hunting!
Keith
November 2, 2003, 02:27 PM
Yeah, that seems really pointless!
How do they know it's "too tough to eat"? And even if it is tough, there's always sausage and plenty of charities who'd be happy to have it.
And then they're going to mount some critter they saw from the road and shot?
And the paper defines them as "hunters"- great!
Keith
smokemaker
November 2, 2003, 07:33 PM
Roast it long enough, and it won't be too tough. Need a heluva big fire though. And after five shots with .357, it's time for something a bit larger... like 45-70, or my rifle-musket with 625 grain .58 minie.
Moparmike
November 2, 2003, 09:12 PM
That pig shouldnt have been shot. It should have been captured and been made into the new Arkansas mascot! Look out Tusk!:what:
I think that if I were to go looking for that one in particular, I would have used something that had the numbers 3, 5, and 7 in the caliber. But it would have been a .375 H&H, not a 357mag.
C.R.Sam
November 2, 2003, 10:36 PM
Methinks some farmer is out a lot of bucks, and his missing boar isn't comin home this time.
Wasting the meat makes me sick.
Sam
JShirley
November 3, 2003, 11:34 AM
"Too tough to eat?"
Wasting that much meat is criminal. Sad. :(
Smoke
November 3, 2003, 12:09 PM
Wasting that much meat is criminal. Sad
Wasting the meat makes me sick.
I'll have to defend these guys and say they are probably right. AN 870 pound hog is not gonna eat very well. A VERY experienced cook may be able to make something that resembles edible.
Throw it away now, or cook it and throw it away after going through the time and trouble to prepare it.....you make the call.
Little pigs eat best.
Smoke
JShirley
November 3, 2003, 12:30 PM
Hey, I am a redneck, and I have a crock pot.
Be warned. ;)
labgrade
November 3, 2003, 02:57 PM
"A VERY experienced cook may be able to make something that resembles edible.' [I]" .... and I have a crock pot."[/]
& a pressure cooker, some marinade, the grill, some sense .... ;)
Indeed.
Really amazing that 'Wut ain't edible" can become so with a bit of technique.
"Too tough to eat" means {mumble, grrrrr} ....
No such thing.
Keith
November 3, 2003, 03:02 PM
You could put a pig dead of old age through a meat grinder and toss in some spices and it would be palatable. It's called sausage.
Keith
labgrade
November 3, 2003, 03:17 PM
Yup, Keith, that too.
Grinding usually takes out that "tough" part.
Can anyone say "pre-chewed" food? ;)
& the "add spices" comment shouldn't be disabused. A l'il marinade, some spices, smoke it too afterwards, whatever. Most anything can be made very tasty with just a l'il common sense & technique.
We don't eat non-kosher any longer, but I'd still put in the grunt work for making a few hundred pounds of decent meat into something for those who do.
Funny, this story somehow brought up a situation back in NW Louisiana when I was 15 or so. (really, my only "pig story.")
Driving my '65 Mustang through some pretty stupid mud-roads, my bud & I came across a few spotted piglets running across the 2-tracker. "How hard can that be!,?" we look at each other ;) Right. They are very fast for stupid l'il 10-pounders
We chase them with our Buck knives till momma treed us ...
So that went. Muddy, an appreciation of fast piglets, & the ire of Mom.
gun-fucious
November 3, 2003, 05:24 PM
at somepoint that picture is going to go all "404" on us, so for the sake of the future:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=581908
As someone who has done sty time with colonial bred tuskers,
i would say Mr Yorkshire looks rather un feral and rather clean for a wild pig.
Maybe they bathed him for the picture
JShirley
November 3, 2003, 07:02 PM
Yup.
I don't believe in welfare, but I'll sure as hell put in some time into getting meat
for a neighbor. I reckon that's how the system is SUPPOSED to work. We all do what we can, and share our blessings.
Had some chile verde last night. Boy, what that woman could have done with 650 or so lbs of pork! Woulda made half the city of Augusta happy.
Bruz
November 4, 2003, 04:04 AM
Never had a dog that has complained about a tough piece of meat! It would make fine dog food...
Matt G
November 4, 2003, 05:18 AM
I have to say, that I frankly believe the whole "if it's bigger than 100 lbs, it's too tough" argument to be a wive's tale. I've eaten on a few 200-250 lb wild hogs, and they were as tender as the 80 shoat I shot a few years back. (i.e.: wonderful. Succulent. Delightful. Far better than storebought pork.)
I'm frankly looking for some of these 400 and 500 lb hogs. I'd be interested in testing my theory. So far, the bigger they are, the more good meat I'm getting!
Agree with my friend John-- those boys were criminally wasteful.
standingbear
November 4, 2003, 10:17 PM
thats one pig ida not gone looking for after i pissed it off with a 357.they do eat meat too on occasion.4 legs can move much faster than 2.
Topkick
January 30, 2010, 05:56 PM
I don't know about you fellas but anyone who has butchered hogs would know that a male hog that size and apparent age would produce such a STRONG odor, I don't know if the dogs would eat it. I don't know if you could stand to be in the kitchen where it was being cooked.
mlkx4
January 30, 2010, 06:02 PM
Wow. 2003...
JimKirk
January 30, 2010, 08:41 PM
I wonder how many lbs of tough meat is eaten each day in the form of Sausage patties at McDonald's, the many fast breakfast joints, the greasy spoons and all the grocery stores all over the US. You really don't think they throw the "tuff" "stuff" away do you.
Careful, timely removal of the whole(I mean all, not part) male parts would have turned that "boar hog" into good sausage. The removal must be right after the kill, with out touching anything after the job, until a very good hand wash. Many large male hogs are butchered each year(day), that the reason the guys who know how to "do it" are the ones doing it.
Jimmy K
RumRunner
January 30, 2010, 09:16 PM
"Too tough to eat?"
Wasting that much meat is criminal. Sad. there aint no such thing as a waste of meat... yotes, coons, foxes, bobcats, worms- they gotta eat too
Hey, I am a redneck, and I have a crock pot. how often you eat passom (possum)?
Whitman31
January 30, 2010, 09:27 PM
+1 to boars tasting and smelling terrible. I disagree with the thought that if the "male parts" are removed quickly after death the meat won't stink. We castrated a couple boars at about 75lbs then fed them out to 250ish. It was too late, the meat seemed good until you cooked it, then the musk came out. Ruined a good cast skillet. Some people don't mind this smell/taste, my wife has no idea what I'm talking about. Having worked on a large scale hog operation for a number of years I directly associate that smell with the froth and funk of a big boar. To this day I can't eat a generic pepperoni pizza (cause that's what they make with boar meat).
All that being said, IMO that is a domestic pig. If I had shot it, and couldn't force myself to eat it, I'd at least have made it into ground pork or sausage and donated it.
alsaqr
January 30, 2010, 09:29 PM
I don't believe in welfare, but I'll sure as hell put in some time into getting meat for a neighbor.
So will I. Last year I killed over 45 wild hogs. Every one of them were eaten by someone. Many were processed at my expense and given to the food bank and the sheriff's drug court.
One evening last summer I stopped at a convenience store to get some ice for the 200 pound field dressed sow in my truck. Two teen-age boys looked at the hog and told their mom who came over and looked at it too. Mom said: "I sure would like to get a hog like that one." Asked the lady what she would do with that hog. Answer: "Feed it to my family." Told her that she had a hog. Her sons loaded that hog into their truck along with the 12 bags of ice I had bought.
JimKirk
January 31, 2010, 01:01 AM
I disagree with the thought that if the "male parts" are removed quickly after death the meat won't stink
Well you didn't read what I said, I said
the whole(I mean all, not part) male parts
Your findings may be different than the group that I hog hunted with. We alway ate everyone we killed and we killed many many hogs. Not one smelled boar hoggy. I would like to have a dime for every "mountain oyster" that I've help lay on the ground. I know well what one smells like. We grew and butchered our own hogs and the meat for several families around us. The photo with the pole with the hogs on it, was the site of many "hog killings"!
I am not sure if you saw the Discovery Channel "Hog Show" or not, but We have dragged some big old hogs off that river swamp, some of them "big azz hogs" and boars.
The Hog in the photo is a Hampshire breed, it is not a wild as "wild breed", it may have been loose or in the woods. Yorkshires are white.
Jimmy K
pwillie
January 31, 2010, 08:16 PM
..that hog was killed in Florida,Alabama,and now Texas...boy,he sure gets around..Hogzilla?
JimKirk
February 1, 2010, 12:40 AM
Hogzilla would make this one look like a pig.
Jimmy K
qajaq59
February 1, 2010, 10:50 AM
If it was too tough to eat why shoot it? If he just wanted a pig's head to mount he could go to the nearest slaughter house and buy one. People are so silly.
Me, I'd have gotten a few buddies and a grinder and it wouldn't have been tough very long!
jimmyraythomason
February 1, 2010, 10:56 AM
Eating a hog isn't the only reason to kill one. Do you have any idea how much land damage a hog that size would do?
qajaq59
February 1, 2010, 12:37 PM
Do you have any idea how much land damage a hog that size would do? I hear that a lot and my land backs up to a golf course so I know it is true. However I notice that no one lets you go out and whack them without having their hand out, so I guess that isn't the main reason they want them thinned out.
jimmyraythomason
February 1, 2010, 12:49 PM
"no one lets you go out and whack them without having their hand out, so I guess that isn't the main reason they want them thinned out."-qajaq59. Land owners having trouble with feral hogs generally take all of the help they can get. That may not be true with all of them but I suspect it is a majority of them.
Art Eatman
February 1, 2010, 12:54 PM
Necrothreadia is bad enough, and wandering all over the countryside away from the OP doesn't help...
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