Oops... CCWer drives off with gun on top of truck


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Jorg Nysgerrig
May 1, 2007, 01:20 AM
Don't be this guy.

From the local police blotter:

07OR16188 - LOST HANDGUN - A man from Midway was loading up some things Sunday evening from the Ventana Apartments at 1300 S. 400 W. He placed his Kahr 9mm handgun (he has a concealed carry permit) on the top of his truck while he placed other items inside the truck. He then forgot to put the gun inside the truck and drove off with it still sitting on the exterior of the truck. Naturally, the gun didn't make it to Midway. When the man discovered the gun missing and realized what he'd done, he notified the police and then retraced his path of travel, but to no avail. Officers here checked the area around the apartments where the gun most likely would have fallen from the truck, but found nothing. If anyone finds the weapon, they should notify the police immediately. The gun has been listed NCIC as stolen, so to found in possession of it, and not be on your way to the police department, would not be a good thing.

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The Unknown User
May 1, 2007, 01:49 AM
Lol XD

No_Brakes23
May 1, 2007, 02:16 AM
Lol XDNo no no, they clearly said Kahr, not Springfield.:D

FireArmFan
May 1, 2007, 02:19 AM
Has anyone here actually put their CCW piece on the top of their vehicles while loading up their car before? Not while out shooting or something but while leaving your house in your driveway or something. To me it doesn't make sense why he would put it on the roof of his truck, but then again I wasn't there so who knows.

AZEX
May 1, 2007, 02:26 AM
cops do it all the time.

It's sad and good for a laugh all at once.

But when cops do it, it seldom gets real news coverage unless it's an MP5.

D.

jeepmor
May 1, 2007, 03:27 AM
I've lost more than one coffee cup that way, but coffee cups don't make news. Seeing it branded as stolen is good info should I stumble upon a nice, slightly dinged, but functional pistol.

Hope he gets it back, then when others ask if they can see it at the range and they ask about the dings...good story.:o :o :o

Ala Dan
May 1, 2007, 04:20 AM
We had a female bring a Taurus PT111 into the shop that actually had
done the same thing unintentionally. Her firearm made it to I-59 before
falling from the roof of her vechile; and while the weapon was recovered,
it was worthless. The polymer frame was cracked badly, and the folks at
Tauri International could not/or would not attempt to fix it. But, they did
send her a new firearm for $40; and that it where our nightmare begins~!

As once the new firearm arrived, the customer was notified of the charges
and advised to stop in and pick it up. With this weapon having a new S/N,
another 4473 had too be completed. At this point, a misunderstanding took
place between our clerical staff and the FBI NICS examiner. The form was
marked as a "Proceed", when actually (according to the FBI) should have
been marked "Delayed". So, the customer was allowed access to the hand
gun, and exited the state upon receipt of the firearm. The next day, the
FBI makes a return call to inform us that this customers application had
been "DENIED"~! And, we were responsible for getting the firearm back
in our inventory. Well, it just so happened that the PX number that the
customer had put on the application was a cell number; and when she
was contacted, it led us to Daytona Beach, FL- a rather long way from
Bessemer, AL. So, at our expense our owner and shipping/receiving
manager immediately left for her destination. A day and a half later the
weapon is back in our hands, after returning the $40 to the customer.

Whose mistake was at fault? Beats me, but the FBI blames us; and we
blame the FBI NICS examiner. At least, a weapon was taken away from
a criminal~! :scrutiny: ;) :D

.cheese.
May 1, 2007, 07:23 AM
I've done that to a cup of soda.... but that's it. Dang.

JWarren
May 1, 2007, 08:31 AM
Ok... time to fess up. I'm not going to be too hard on the guy.


I did almost this very thing about a year ago.

It wasn't CCW-- I had my Glock 19 in its belt holster on a web belt. When I am just running basic places like to my fathers or my father-in-law's, I usually don't CCW-- I just toss it in the car in the console or under the seat.

Well, my wife had me load some stuff in her trunk when going to her Dad's house one day. Absentminded, and ready to get on the road, I set the holster on top of her Nissan Altima.

About 2 miles (yes! 2 miles!) from my house, I hear something knock and look back in the rear view mirror. I see something rolling on the road. Because of the knock we felt in the car, I knew it came from the car.

A quick turn around revealed that it was my Glock. I have to give them credit-- There wasn't a single scratch, gouge, etc. on the gun. The holster got some road burns and scratches on the metal pieces.

No harm done. Except for my pride. I still get embarrassed when I think about that event.


-- John

armoredman
May 1, 2007, 09:38 AM
I have to confess...I have never done anything remotely like that. Ever.

thegriz
May 1, 2007, 09:57 AM
I've done that with a briefcase and a cup of coffee. The briefcase made it to my destination. The coffee was pointed out to me by a helpful guy at a stoplight. I guess I don't drive fast enough.

That's why I'm paranoid about laying my CCW anywhere except it's holster or it's spot in the safe. I have too much going on to remember where I laid my CCW.

Imagine the fallout if some kids found it laying on the ground.:(

romma
May 1, 2007, 10:05 AM
My brother had the days receipts (lotsa money) from the gas station he worked at years ago on top of his car. He came over to see me, and I thought he'd had a heart attack explaining to me what happened. We drove back and retraced his route to no avail. went to the police station to report it missing, and was already turned in by a newspaper delivery kid... Total time 47 minutes...

Outlaw Man
May 1, 2007, 10:07 AM
Doh!!

Kurt S.
May 1, 2007, 12:39 PM
I've never put a gun a gun on the top of a vehicle as described, but I did put a couple of speedloaders full of 200 grain .44 LHPs for my Charter Bulldog on the top of my wife's pick-up and somehow forgot about them in the next 30 seconds or so. :what: I took off and heard something making an awful noise as I went around my first corner. I thought something was wrapped around one of the axles so I stopped and got underneath the truck, looked around, nothing. I went into a turnaround underneath a freeway and out of the corner of my eye caught sight of something rolling off. I stopped and found a speedloader on the pavement a couple of yards back, cartridges still in it but with some really mashed-up lead bullets. The speedloaders had been rolling around in the opening between the truck cab and the topper on the bed. Apparently that was what had been making all the noise.

SamTuckerMTNMAN
May 1, 2007, 12:58 PM
I usually don't CCW-- I just toss it in the car in the console or under the seat.


isnt under the seat concealed in most states?

Anyway, big mistake, poor discipline.

Maintain contact with weapon, do not put in distractable places or high rosk areas such as vehicle roof when engaged in other activity (loading stuff).

I left a bag on my car some years ago that had a great Silat video, pic of a recent carribean adventure, a pair of nunchakus, and a bunch of favorite tapes and cd's. Everything was hit by a semi on I 40 going 60 + and destroyed. I salvaged, at much risk, the pictures, some of them anyway...

would not put rifle or sidearm on vehicle, not when leaning into vehicle or turned away from it especially. No way.

ST

ArfinGreebly
May 1, 2007, 01:17 PM
Perhaps someone can 'splain me . . .

If I'm carrying, and I'm getting into my vehicle, uhhh, why would the weapon not be on my person?

Is there a CCW style where you would approach the vehicle with the gun in your hand?

I'm not tryna be obtuse. I don't have my carry permit yet, so I don't carry, thus I probably just don't have enough experience to understand why this is possible -- and not even surprising to some.

I feel there's a lesson here for me . . .

Polishrifleman
May 1, 2007, 01:41 PM
I have never done it with my carry piece but while driving to elk camp one night we blew a tire and had to empty things out to change the tire. We loaded the rig back up and started bumping down the logging road when the rifle hardcase came sliding down the front windshield to our horror.:eek:

It does happen, but as mentioned above a carry piece is exactly that. It should sit with you in the car.

Winter Borne
May 1, 2007, 01:51 PM
ALMOST left my P32 in the bathroom stall once. I was in there taking care of business and recieved a phone call that I had been waiting for for two days. I got so involved in the call that I forgot my gun on the TP holder. I was washing my hands and this guy taps me on the shoulder and hands me my pistol. :eek: He was a retired cop and he told me he did that a couple of times too. He told me to keep it in my pants and that way I could never forget it.

mk

gunsmith
May 1, 2007, 02:24 PM
"honey, have you seen little Timmy?"

svtruth
May 1, 2007, 03:53 PM
things, the angel of intelligence bopped me on the head, and said:
"Put things on the hood, Bozo."

TallPine
May 1, 2007, 05:32 PM
Must be an awfully short truck ...? I could possibly reach the top of my pickup cab, but not conveniently.

I did leave a pair of binoculars on the rail of my pickup bed last summer :( I had a good excuse though ... I had spotted smoke and I set down the glasses to report the fire on a portable 2-way radio, then drove off to get to the fire station. I actually managed to find the binoculars undamaged a couple days later sitting alongside the road (it is one of those "roads less travelled")

Kurt S.
May 1, 2007, 06:06 PM
Tallpine, if you are referring to my post in Must be an awfully short truck ...? I could possibly reach the top of my pickup cab, but not conveniently. It's a 2WD Chevy Colorado. (Remember, this is a "girl's" truck we're talking about /flame suit mode ON :uhoh: ) Put it next to a full size Silverado and it looks pretty small, next to a 4WD Avalanche or something like that it's tiny. It's probably about 5-1/2 feet or so tall, with my ape arms I can darn near reach across the top.

TallPine
May 1, 2007, 06:22 PM
I was referring to the "truck" in the incident in the original post. Though I think of a "truck" as something with running boards or stepped fuel tank that you climb up into ;)

Colorado, Silverado, Avalanche ... what a lot of names they have now.:rolleyes: I still just think in terms of 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton. My old 3/4 ton 2wd is still pretty tall.

Orthonym
May 1, 2007, 09:33 PM
I drove off with a cat on top of the car a time or three.

I was visiting the cat's previous human, a very nice old lady who poured excellent Scotch Whisky and lived around the corner from our place.

The kitty had decided that "I" was his human, not she, and would come over there and demand transport home. Usually I had a '79 Chevy Malibu station wagon in her driveway, with a roof rack on top.

Sometimes the kitty would consent to be driven home in the interior of the car, but more often, he preferred to get up on the roof, so (I reckon) he'd be ready to jump clear if that human of his did something crazy with the car.

gezzer
May 1, 2007, 09:55 PM
No different than a police deputy chief leaving his in a restroom.

We are all human Monday morning quarterbacking does nothing but cause grief.

Hillsideblue
May 2, 2007, 06:59 AM
I was working 1600 to 2400 on night............When my relief came in to take the Radio Car from me I put my gunbelt and Police hat on the roof of my car while we were talking and having a cigarette.........
I drove off without remembering that the gunbelt and hat were up there......
I drove about 45 miles on I-495 to my home in Eastern Long Island and when I got out of the car in my driveway the gunbelt and hat were still up there.....
I guess it was a smooth ride, but I was going 70 MPH at times on the Interstate...................
I never did that again.........!!!

Caimlas
May 2, 2007, 09:39 PM
I have a Taurus station wagon with a carrier rack on the roof. I once drove about 20 miles with a coffee cup on the roof in a normal rubber-bottom metal-body cup (with lid). The only downside was that my coffee had cooled considerably, and there was significantly less. :P

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