comfortable driving w/ concealed gun?


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yhtomit
May 1, 2007, 11:56 AM
OK, this is one of my persistent newbie questions: How do you ("how does one") drive with a concealed carry gun? I want to take advantage of my permit when I can, this summer especially.

I've tried to simulate geting into / out of my car with a gun by using a realistic-sized Airsoft pistol, and feel a bit foolish -- how do people do this comfortably? Small of back? This is fine when standing or in a backless chair, but sure seems to jab me when sitting down in a chair with a back.

And with a less centered carrying position (10 or 2 oclock) ... I'm still trying to figure out how to not be uncomfortably jabbed.

Note: No, I haven't been doing this with a holster -- a Kel-Tec P11 is likely in my future, but until I get the right CCW gun, I don't want to buy a holster. But the airsoft gun I'm using has dimesions very close to that of the P11, and the holster will only make things bigger, eh?

This is making me want a Miami Vice style holster / harness! Drawing in a car sure seems awkward -- even getting out a wallet from a rear pocket at toll booths isn't easy, which is why I like to keep my toll money in the center console.

Perhaps there are videos online that show me how others do this ... but any advice in the meantime? Is this why people like to recommend J frames and pocket carry? ;)

timothy

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Shadowangel
May 1, 2007, 11:59 AM
Crossdraw works well for driving in cars.

SWModel19
May 1, 2007, 12:01 PM
IWB at 4 O'Clock. Even though I am a big guy, it sits comfortably in the crux of the seat just behind the seatbelt latch. No problems.

Or, if I carry a compact, it is a pocket pistol. Again, being a big guy, I have big pockets. No problems for me.

CB900F
May 1, 2007, 12:01 PM
Yhtomit;

I've been carrying in a vehicle for decades. What works for me is: The Milt Sparks executive's companion IWB, Inside WaistBand, holster and an H&K USPc pistol. I got the belt and holster as a matched pair, having the right belt is important.

900F

Stickjockey
May 1, 2007, 12:03 PM
OWB 4:00 seems to work fine for me.

Lennyjoe
May 1, 2007, 12:05 PM
If you IWB, look for a holster with a body shield. It helps keep the pistol from digging in. Same can be said for a OWB as well. Either way, I wear a tee shirt under anyway.

helpless
May 1, 2007, 12:06 PM
Carrying is always going to feel awkward at first especially while getting in and out of a vehicle. After a while it is a non issue.

Ala Dan
May 1, 2007, 12:10 PM
Either IWB or OWB at 4 o'clock works for me; but a seatbelt adjustment may
be required by some of the pack'in crowd.

pax
May 1, 2007, 12:14 PM
You're not going to get a good idea trying it without a holster. A holster and a solid belt are utterly necessary for comfort as well as security.

I carry my Glock 26 IWB, in the appendix position (between belly button & strong side hip). Never been uncomfy in a car and could draw if I needed to. YMMV, of course -- every body is different.

pax

tank mechanic
May 1, 2007, 12:26 PM
I always carry IWB at four oclock with with my american express gun( don't leave home without it). I have found that this is a huge PIA to draw while sitting and strapped in. My solution was to have a another gun in the car that is easily accessible. This makes the draw time a lot quicker and I am not fighting a seat belt and trying to bend and contort while sitting in the seat.

gregma
May 1, 2007, 12:39 PM
I carry my Beretta 92FS OWB in a SERPA at 3:00. It was slightly uncomfortable for about 15 minutes, but now I don't even notice it.

Thanks!
Greg

Cheeseybacon
May 1, 2007, 12:44 PM
I pocket carry my GLOCK 26 in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster and really the only significant complaint I have when driving is the fact that my gun sometimes interferes with my ability to move the gearshift into the proper gear (I absolutely refuse to own a car equipped with automatic transmission). I'm a pretty big guy and thus my legs are already pretty close to the shifter anyway, so having the gun in my pocket just makes it that much worse. I could probably solve this problem quite easily by getting a roomier car or losing some weight (which I should be doing anyway, carrying issues aside).

IllHunter
May 1, 2007, 12:47 PM
NRA has a new under shirt for ccw see http://www.NRAstore.com Please post if you've tried this shirt or any like it. I think I might need 1 in each color!! (5.11 Tactical Holster Shirt)

WeThePeople
May 1, 2007, 01:14 PM
If I am driving around town, my carry remains in place. If I am going out of town, my carry goes under something on the seat next to me if permissible by the state in which I am. Check your local laws before doing that!

RevolvingCylinder
May 1, 2007, 01:24 PM
"Get out of" during the summer? I just simply stand up and throw a leg over it and I'm off. It's not much different than if I were to sit in a chair.:D

As I'm usually wearing my riding jacket(even during the summer) concealment is a non-issue. Plus I'm not wasting gas with a 30 mpg gas-guzzler and then whining about gas prices.:cool:

So I can't really give you any helpful advice. Sorry.

beaucoup ammo
May 1, 2007, 01:34 PM
yhtomit, so many variables and preferences! I favor a cross draw leather Bianchi for my KAHR P9 at 4 o'clock...or velcro / cloth "Kangaroo" under the left arm for my "Airweight" Smith 637-2.

As others have mentioned, once you make your choice (remember you'll be living with this) your mode of carry will become second nature. In South Texas, in the summer, the Airweight .38 Spcl in the cotton Kangaroo holster will make tomorrow very comfortable as we're fixin' to head to Rockport to get some trout!

Rumble
May 1, 2007, 01:36 PM
Honestly, no, I have never been entirely comfortable carrying while driving. Sometimes it's quite uncomfortable; usually it sits right around the level of "I know it's there but it's not terribly bothersome at the moment." I consider it one of the inconveniences of carrying.

Lashlarue
May 1, 2007, 01:55 PM
Horizontal shoulder rig in the winter is fine, in warm weather, I just put the pistol on the seat next to me. My backup a 22wmr derringer stays in my front left pocket.

1BLINDREF
May 1, 2007, 01:59 PM
Try an ankle holster if you are wearing long pants. Its quite easy to draw when you are sitting in a car. You can pull up your pant leg over the butt of the gun when you get into your car to make it that much faster to draw. If you are wearing shorts, go with a cross draw holster.

PH/CIB
May 1, 2007, 02:01 PM
I carry in Cargo pockets, Glock 34 in right cargo pocket, two Glock 33 round 9mm magazines in left cargo pocket and never have any problem in cars driving or going to the bathroom or sitting in a chair for long period of time. http://handgunholsters.net

swingcatt
May 1, 2007, 02:17 PM
Strong side hip (or 4 o'clock, as others call it) is the only way to carry a full size auto. It is comfortable to drive with everyday. Xdraw and s.o.b. are all bad news. If you carry a small frame auto or snubbie, you then have the option of pocket carry, which I also recommend to students. - SC

Daemon688
May 1, 2007, 02:46 PM
I do IWB every day with a P239 SAS in a Cochise Defender from K&D holsters. There was a pretty long wait for it, but it was totally worth it. The holster itself is very comfortable and well made. I carry it at a 1 o'clock position and it works for me. In the car, I just lift up my shirt and tuck it behind the holster for easy access.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57389&stc=1&d=1178044965

MD_Willington
May 1, 2007, 02:55 PM
Could try a Ross Leather #M23 Driving/COB Holster


Here's one:

http://www.ccwsupply.biz/RossM23DrivingHolsterPAGE.htm

I just use my IWB or OWB, works in my Toyota PU, Chrysler Concord & Town & Country minivan...

Biker
May 1, 2007, 02:55 PM
Ankle.

Biker

budney
May 1, 2007, 03:01 PM
IWB at 4:00. You quickly develop the habit of sitting in such a way that it doesn't dig in.

For ease of draw, an ankle holster is worth a look. A "car gun" is probably a bad idea, if it means leaving the gun in the car where it can be stolen easily. Better to carry on your person, even in the car.

--Len.

ChandlerM
May 1, 2007, 04:14 PM
IllHunter - re: 5.11 Tactical Holster Shirt

The undershirt is made from spandex and is very tight fitting. I wear a size large, but ordered an XL and had to return it for the XXL. Any one who wears XL or bigger may have to pass on this undershirt. Have only tried it a couple of times and am concerned how it will feel in the hot summer time. Feels like it will breath ok though.

The "holster" holds my Taurus PT145 just fine as well as my Ruger SP101 with a 3" barrel. Feels like there is no gun there at all.

cmidkiff
May 1, 2007, 04:22 PM
Smartcarry rigs work surprisingly well in a vehicle...

Pocket carry is comfortable no matter where you happen to be.

Remember, CCW is supposed to be comforting, not necessarily comfortable!

Bob M.
May 1, 2007, 04:28 PM
Remember, CCW is supposed to be comforting, not necessarily comfortable!

Exactly. It is very comforting, but sometimes not too comfortable, unfortunately.:(

possum
May 1, 2007, 06:16 PM
there are a few ways that i carry while in a car. one either in a shoulder holster during cold weather which is really comfortable and unobtrusive.
i use a paddle like my don hume and my kahr k-40 which is very comfortable and i can wear it comfortably for a long long time. from kansas to n.c. driving straight as a matter of fact.

now my iwb holster and my xd sc is great but after a few hours of driving it gets uncomfortable and pains me a little. if i am around town no problem, if i am traveling it will come out, so i can ride more comfortable.

jlbraun
May 1, 2007, 06:19 PM
Egad Daemon688, nice shirt! I'm colorblind, and I can still tell that's pink!

:neener:

TallPine
May 1, 2007, 06:34 PM
I carry OWB at about 3:00 and it's not really a problem, though the seat belt might make it a little hard to draw while seated. I would just release the belt if I got to that point, though.

I will say that bucket seats are more of a "pain" than bench seats for carrying a sidearm.

Trapperbob10
May 1, 2007, 07:05 PM
To quote Clint Smit "Guns are meant to be comforting/Not comfortable"

Regards


Trapperbob10

P.S personally I am carrying a Glock 21 in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion on right hip when I drive.

phonesysphonesys
May 1, 2007, 07:24 PM
Tank Mec,
I am with you. Spare in the cab. Easy access. No bending or twisting. Long gun in the back for what ever.

Semper Fi

jbauch357
May 1, 2007, 08:17 PM
I wear an uncle mikes IWB holster with my SP101 at 4 oclock when standing, and slide it to 3 oclock when sitting in a tight seat or driving. It did take some getting used to, and realistically I still have a way to go yet. My seating is especially uncomfortable driving a Z06 corvette and narrow racing seats with high bolsters, but canting the weapon forward and bringing it a little higher on my hip allows for somewhat comfortable carry...

here are the seats-
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k277/jbauch357/tutorials/IMG_2120small.jpg

the holster is very thin and nylon, it fits the pistol perfectly and isn't anywhere near as bulky as the bianchi IWB holsters...

Daemon688
May 1, 2007, 09:27 PM
Egad Daemon688, nice shirt! I'm colorblind, and I can still tell that's pink!

I knew someone was going to comment about that. It's actually red, but I think the flash made it look like it was pink. Oh well.

jeepmor
May 2, 2007, 12:15 AM
Console or 4o'clock IWB, depends on the driving distance. Console easier to draw from, IWB easier to move to and fro during errand duties. Everytime I exit the car, it goes with me unless I'm going to a fed building or similar.

jeepmor

Geronimo45
May 2, 2007, 12:24 AM
I'm a skinny rat - so removing it from the pocket's no big deal. I just keep the gun on the driver's seat, under my right leg. It stays in position, it's reasonably well hidden, not too uncomfortable, and a pretty discreet/speedy draw.

aimy
May 2, 2007, 01:56 AM
Most of us carry incase the unexpected happens.

Car accidents happen that way too and if our guns aren't well secured they're going to flying.

Stay safe!

AlaskaErik
May 2, 2007, 03:58 AM
I normally carry a Glock 23 at the 9 o'clock position since I'm a firm believer in cross-draw. That way I have access at all times, including when driving. This location also keeps it away from the seatbelt buckle.

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