Topbreak revolvers and the #3 Schofield


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monoceros
May 1, 2007, 05:59 PM
I have liked old west peacemakers for a while now, but when I recently discovered the model #3 Schofield I fell in love. It seems as though there is little info on the web regarding the topbreaking Schofield, so I thought I'd ask a few questions here to fill in the gaps. It seems as though Navy Arms makes a good Schofield, but what is the absolute best company to buy a new Schofield from regardless of price? I don't know a lot about revolvers so can a Schofield in .45 lc or .44 Russian use full moon clips? How accurate, reliable, and sturdy is a good Schofield, and where can I get good leather for it? Thanks for any responses, hopefully we can gather some info on this awsome sixgun.

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Jackal
May 1, 2007, 06:14 PM
Just an FYI, you can also get the Navy Arms gun chambered in .38spl.

BlkHawk73
May 1, 2007, 07:46 PM
uberti makes one and they also make one for Beretta which has a VERY ncie finish.

timothy75
May 2, 2007, 12:42 AM
I believe Uberti makes all the current offerings with the Berreta being a loose copy of the new model number 3 rather than the schofeild. I've heard they shoot as well as any good quality sixgun. Strength, well, by design the arent as rugged as a solid frame remington or colt but are stronger than the open top colt designs. This is not a deal breaker however and a man would be very well protected in the outdoors with a full power (sammi) loaded 45 schofeild or colt round. Reliabilty should be fine due to the more intricate lock work of the design, guaranted to warrant more hand fitting and attention during assembly along with price. I've heard they do not work well with BP however which I'll be adressing when I procure my own and see if I can find a way around that. By the way have you see this one?

Glockman17366
May 2, 2007, 12:59 AM
These are really nice looking guns! Expensive though...the Uberti's go for about $900.
S&W makes or made a replica too. That was well over $1000.
I've handled the Uberti but haven't shot one. This is the only "Old West" replica I ever had any desire to buy (meaning the Schofield, not the manufacturer...although I'd probably go for the Uberti).

I was of the impression the Beretta owns Uberti now...any confirmation of that?

RON in PA
May 2, 2007, 03:50 AM
Beretta does own Uberti.

S&W stopped making the Scofield several years ago.

ArchAngelCD
May 2, 2007, 05:25 AM
Revolvers
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/TopBreak.tpl

http://www.navyarms.com/html/top_break_rev.html

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/OpenTop/OpenTopNavy.htm
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/OpenTop/OpenTopArmy.htm

http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/worldofusfa.asp

http://www.chaparralfirearms.com/

Holsters
http://www.usgalco.com/default.asp
http://www.andrewsleather.com/
http://www.kdholsters.com/basefile/cowboy.html
http://www.brigadegunleather.com/westernholsters.html
http://www.oldwestreproductions.com/_System/_DeluxeStore/ProductList.asp?Category=Old+West+Holsters
http://www.kirkpatrickleather.com/m_western.htm

BTW, It's not Beretta who owns Uberti, it's Benelli. They also own Stoeger, Franchi, Burris, a few other companies and I think Federal Ammo too.

Jim Watson
May 2, 2007, 09:50 AM
The "Beretta Group" includes Beretta Arms, Benelli, Uberti, Franchi, Stoeger, and Burris.
Federal Cartridge Co. is a division of ATK as was Alliant Technologies.

Although Beretta owns Uberti, they have their own line of CAS guns. The Stampede has a transfer bar unlike the Uberti (under whatever importer's name). The Laramie looks like a S&W New Model No 3 Target while the Ubertis are based on the Schofield and Third Model Russian; all with detail differences and mixed features either for manufacturing convenience or to prevent fakery of real S&Ws.
What I do not know is whether the Berettas are actually made by them or are produced as model variations at Uberti.

No, a repro S&W big topbreak does not use moon clips. If you want that "feature" look for a Webley Mk VI that has been cut for .45 ACP.

Smith & Wesson Man
May 2, 2007, 12:40 PM
I have thought of getting one myself. I think they are very cool. You can find them sometimes used for sale on Gunbroker or Auction Arms. I have held a few new ones and some have thinner grips than others. I held a russian model and really hated it:barf: I did not care for the grips way to thin. I think the no.3 is the first one I held and it had wooden grips. All three companies mentioned make good remakes of this historic firearm. They are not cheap, I have talked to a guy that has several. They are good shooters, but you have the older sights and they are nothing like target sights. He prefers the longer barrels over the shorter ones offered. I hope this helps:)

monoceros
May 2, 2007, 07:41 PM
I think the beretta Laramie has sights adjustable for wingage and they seem nice enough. I was wondering if the Laramie was able to be operated with one hand like the Schofield just because that seems cool. Even though moon clips wouldn't work with the Laramie, I still am not sure about speedloaders and would like to know if maybe these work.

Jim K
May 2, 2007, 09:09 PM
The best Scholfield repros were those made by S&W. I wish I had bought one.

Speed loaders will work fine with a top break revolver, actually a lot better than with a side-swing revolver.

The main reason top-breaks went out of style was that they just won't stand up to high pressure loads. There has to be play in the latch for the gun to open and any play will increase as the gun is fired. With high pressure loads, that increase is rapid and basically irreversible.

Jim

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