Your Dream Mil Surplus weapons?


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andrewdl007
May 1, 2007, 11:46 PM
I live for historic and military weapons. I have a list a mile long of Mil Surplus guns I would like to buy. If you could have one military rifle and one pistol from any army from any time what would they be? I would have to pick... a Mauser K98 and the Colt M1908 .380 pistols that Generals got, just for some variety.

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Heavy Metal Hero
May 1, 2007, 11:56 PM
Hitler's Luger.

JWarren
May 1, 2007, 11:56 PM
Are we including Class III? Are we going into near modern military arms?

I'll play it both ways:

Standard non-Class III:

1903A4 Springfield
Luger

or
M1D Garand
1911A1

or

Dragunov (not copy)
P38

Class III: (and subsituting Sub-gun for pistol at will)

M14
MP5

or

Galil Sniper
Uzi

or

BAR
Thompson



Just a few thoughts.


-- John

trickyasafox
May 2, 2007, 12:03 AM
im not great at these games, but i'd want a beretta m9 that our guys carry now. something about the look of those guns always appealed to me. i think it was watching lethal weapon as a kid.

as for the rifle? a nice ol' cetme with wood furniture. neither is really unique, but the looks of those weapons appeals very strongly to me.

usp_fan
May 2, 2007, 12:03 AM
Thompson Subgun
Colt SAA

--usp_fan

ec-10
May 2, 2007, 12:08 AM
A Pennsylvania Rifle in mint condition. Yeah I know, it's not technically a surplus rifle but hey....

Mortonspoint
May 2, 2007, 12:08 AM
FN-FAL, 90 Counties can't be wrong!

mnrivrat
May 2, 2007, 12:34 AM
A Pennsylvania Rifle in mint condition. Yeah I know, it's not technically a surplus rifle but hey....

While not an issue weapon they were used in the revolution and there ain't many things much pretty'r than a flint lock long rifle set in a tiger maple stock ! I'm with you on this one.

But for the sake of pure military issue I'll take a 1903 A4 sniper rifle and perhaps a calvary Colt.

Joachim
May 2, 2007, 12:37 AM
BREN gun.

Davo
May 2, 2007, 01:23 AM
A Whitworth rifle, Hathcocks m70, and Saddams gold plated AK...id give THAT one to Lil Jon...YE-AH!

pete f
May 2, 2007, 03:07 AM
a ma deuce, quad mount, and cheap ammo to feed it....


a really good coast guard thompson.

a gau 8, with milsurp ammo to feed it.

Not playiing by the rules, then ok, a real M 14 or a real FG 42

collateral
May 2, 2007, 03:25 AM
Hitler's Luger.
If I remember correctly, hitler had a P-38 and/or a PPK

Pistol:
Tokarev TT-33
or
Original 1911

Rifles:
M1 garand
or
a mint russian SKS

Class III:
Thompson
or
sten gun
or
BAR

Beachmaster
May 2, 2007, 03:38 AM
I would like to own every small arm from WWII. While modern weapons are great, I really like the wepons from that era.

jrfoxx
May 2, 2007, 03:50 AM
Civil war rifle and pistol (any type, verified to have seen action, from both the north and south), and a revolutionary war rifle and pistol (again, from both sides).
Without being too specific and/or greedy, those would please me the most.

Heavy Metal Hero
May 2, 2007, 07:36 AM
If I remember correctly, hitler had a P-38 and/or a PPK

He had anything he could get his hands on.

WayneConrad
May 2, 2007, 09:46 AM
JWarren's list is perfect.

kfranz
May 2, 2007, 10:06 AM
JWarren's list is perfect.

No, it is not.

Hilaire Belloc's sentiments seem appropriate when creating such a list....

"Whatever happens we have got / The Maxim Gun, and they have not."

Harry Paget Flashman
May 2, 2007, 10:09 AM
All I want is 1 each of all the Mosin Nagant variants.

And some storage space to go with that.

JWarren
May 2, 2007, 10:13 AM
JWarren's list is perfect.

No, it is not.

Hehe.... what can I say.... The heart wants what the heart wants. :)


-- John

SaMx
May 2, 2007, 10:26 AM
a micro galil would be pretty cool.

So would a thompson.

mister2
May 2, 2007, 10:56 AM
You said "dream", right?

GE minigun

Ala Dan
May 2, 2007, 11:11 AM
M-14
Thompson Sub Gun

MarshallDodge
May 2, 2007, 11:20 AM
I like JWarren's list as well.

In the pre-1960 category:
Rifle: Garand
Submachine gun: Thomson
Pistol: 1911

In the present day category:
Rifle: M40A1
Submachine gun: MP5
Pistol: 1911

Items in bold I do not own yet

Brian Williams
May 2, 2007, 11:25 AM
1911a1
1903a3

arkangel06
May 2, 2007, 11:41 AM
lugar 9 mm an mp-40 and an walther p-38

arkangel06
May 2, 2007, 11:42 AM
but id take anything offered to me ;)

The Unknown User
May 2, 2007, 11:56 AM
Thompson
K98
1911

MrPeter
May 2, 2007, 12:07 PM
A FiveseveN (that was used by some military somewhere, right?), a PS90, and a mint FAL

:D

Kurt S.
May 2, 2007, 12:12 PM
US Rifle, Cal. .30, Model of M1903, Mark I plus US Automatic Pistol, Caliber .30, Model of 1918. AKA Springfield '03 with Pederson device.

FP-45 Liberator and while we're at it, a Vietnam era "Deer Gun", 9mm single-shot pistol along the same lines but much more "space-age" in appearance.

And other more common pieces too numerous to name.

K3
May 2, 2007, 12:14 PM
One of the following combos would be nice:

Garand
1911

K98
1911

K31
1911

Notice a trend? :)

Class III stuff?
M14
PPSh-41

foghornl
May 2, 2007, 12:39 PM
From the Allied Guys:
all the 1903 Springfield variants
SMLE variants
Bren
BAR
Thompson & "Grease Gun"
Soviet PPSh sub-gun
Liberator

Axis Guys:
MP-40
P-38 & Luger
Early Japanese Arisaka's
Carcano
all of the K98 variants

Hokkmike
May 2, 2007, 12:50 PM
Viet Nam era AK. If you have one and would like to get a couple of other mislurps in return, contact me!

LaEscopeta
May 2, 2007, 02:10 PM
In the pre-1960 category:
Rifle: Garand
Submachine gun: Thomson
Pistol: 1911

In the present day category:
Rifle: M40A1
Submachine gun: MP5
Pistol: 1911In the future day category:
Rifle: M41A
Pistol: Gauss Gun

davera
May 2, 2007, 03:05 PM
A pre WWII 1903 Springfield in nice condition. They're out there, I passed one up at a recent Montgomery gunshow because my cash stash was $200 short of his price. It wasn't too bad a price on it - just more that I had that day.

mmissile
May 2, 2007, 03:06 PM
PSG1/MSG90 from an elite unit.

silliman89
May 2, 2007, 03:09 PM
USS Iowa

hso
May 2, 2007, 03:47 PM
If you could have one military rifle and one pistol from any army from any time what would they be? I would have to pick... a Mauser K98 and the Colt M1908 .380 pistols that Generals got, just for some variety.

Got the rifle and a .32 Generals Issue pistol. :D I'd be tickeled to get the .380. As to rifle? Real M14, preferably a Winchester.

If we expanded beyond rifle and pistol it would be a Atchisson Assault Shotgun from the Vietnam era - http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh29-e.htm

gripper
May 2, 2007, 04:58 PM
FG 42.....45 "Box Cannon" Shansei Mauser pistol....Schnelfeuer variant of BroomieVasily Zaitsev's 91-30...the list (and the beat ) goes on.

CWL
May 2, 2007, 05:39 PM
That SCUD missle on mobile launcher I climbed all over would have been a nice "take home" souvenir.

cosine
May 2, 2007, 05:47 PM
A mint condition K98.
A mint condition M1 Garand.

bogie
May 2, 2007, 06:16 PM
A SAW and a small Uzi...

And lots and lots of ammo.

jerkyman45
May 2, 2007, 07:26 PM
one of the original 2000 odd LeMat revolvers issued in the Confederacy during the civil war, that and an original mp 44. Maybe not technically milsurp, they are, or were, military weapons anyways.

Stevie-Ray
May 2, 2007, 07:30 PM
I have an SAR-48 that I truly love. So I'd have to say the select-fire version of the FAL.

Got the pistols covered in 1911s.:D

hank327
May 2, 2007, 10:14 PM
An unissued Lee-Enfield No 1 Mk III and an issued Lithgow L1A1 with the wood furniture.

GRIZ22
May 2, 2007, 11:21 PM
Colt M1908 .380 pistols that Generals got, just for some variety.


These are more difficult to find as General Officers had the option of purchasing their pistol for the acquisition cost by the Army. Something like $25-30. i would guess most purchased them. These (and also the 32 version) were issued to some nurses in WWII.

I only limited exposure firing them but that was enough to make me like the BAR.

sharkhunter2018
May 2, 2007, 11:47 PM
A mint, NIB M1D...same goes for standard M1. A true, authentic NIB Dragunov. A Mosin M38 and a standard 19/30, and a PE variant of the Mosin sniper (already have a PU and M44). Some sort of 1903.....aww hell.....ill take em all :D

SaMx
May 3, 2007, 12:00 AM
actually, a PPSh-41 (http://www.world.guns.ru/smg/smg02-e.htm) would be pretty cool. Even a semi auto version.

Geronimo45
May 3, 2007, 12:03 AM
Tommy Gun
BAR
Beretta M9

zedheadmc
May 3, 2007, 12:22 AM
I like ec-10's thinking, but keeping my answer kinda technical I'd pick the U.S. 1803 Harpers Ferry Rifle and I'm not so picky about pistols so a WWII issue M1911A1 or an M1917 Revolver would be hunky dory with me.

Elza
May 3, 2007, 02:21 AM
M-14

daniel (australia)
May 3, 2007, 02:31 AM
Older:

A Ferguson rifle, and a Paterson Colt - both revolutionary, and rather rare.

More modern:

A Welrod, and a Walther WA 2000, for much the same reasons.

I know that the Paterson Colt is not quite milsurp, so I'd settle for a Walker, and if the WA 2000 didn't qualify I could stand to have a Mondragon rifle.

Belgiboy
May 3, 2007, 07:26 AM
I would have to go with a M40A1, mosin 91/30 with the PEM (or the PU, i'm not picky) and the Lee Enfield no4 mk1 'T'
And one of those 105 mm recoilless rifles to keep the squirrels of the yard

delta53
May 3, 2007, 07:56 AM
all of hitlers zippers I can load in my car

Radagast
May 3, 2007, 08:01 AM
Mint persian mauser.

sansone
May 3, 2007, 08:04 AM
I know it's a crummy cartridge but I passed-up a chance to buy a clean m1carbine years ago(no$$).. would love to have one

LaEscopeta
May 3, 2007, 08:22 AM
What, no one wants a MP-44 (StG-44)? I know, not really military surplus, and it shoots hard to find ammo, but still, just for the historic value...

LoadedDrum
May 3, 2007, 08:35 AM
MaDeuce or M240 for the long arm, and SOCOM for the pistol

Rem700SD
May 3, 2007, 08:51 AM
Confederate Whitworth, with scope, mint condition.

cbsbyte
May 3, 2007, 09:01 AM
My dream Milsurps, would be a P210, Swiss Luger, and a Pre WWII Thompson.

#shooter
May 3, 2007, 09:30 AM
Mg42

Silvanus
May 3, 2007, 10:01 AM
I'd love to have a WWII M1 Garand and 1911. There's something fascinating (to me at least) about the weapons that were carried by the soldiers who beat the nazis and saved our European asses in WWII... Besides, they are still both great weapons and fun to shoot at the range:D

Ayden
May 4, 2007, 11:08 AM
K-98 in new condition with all stamps

MKEITH
May 4, 2007, 12:04 PM
M1 Garand and P-38.

helpless
May 4, 2007, 12:42 PM
M1 carbine, tons of ammo, tons of mags.

TCB in TN
May 4, 2007, 06:25 PM
A pre WWII 1903 Springfield in nice condition. They're out there, I passed one up at a recent Montgomery gunshow because my cash stash was $200 short of his price. It wasn't too bad a price on it - just more that I had that day.

Know what you mean, my Grandpa left me a very nice US Springfield Armory 1903, and I have wanted to get another one in similar condition, but at this point I haven't found one in good enough condition to match that I had the money for at the time.

Besides a mate to my 1903 I would like to have a good Thompson, and a couple of original issued 1911s in like condition.

SaMx
May 4, 2007, 06:43 PM
oh, and a 1917 revolver too.

Daemon688
May 4, 2007, 11:30 PM
A fresh of the factory line, never seen battle, only packed in cosmoline and stored:

K98 with SS markings
P-08

rbt2
May 4, 2007, 11:47 PM
my kingdom for the only remaining, original, luger chambered in .45

rbt2

M.E.Eldridge
May 5, 2007, 12:36 AM
Thompson sub-gun. Any model would work.

And if I had one, I'd do something unusual and name it. Something that awesome just deserves a name, after all.

"Roland" would be a good name, I think...

Hardtarget
May 5, 2007, 12:52 AM
I've got a short list...
.30-40 Krag
1903 Springvield
1917
Mi Garand
.30 Carbine
That would do me for U.S. Mil-surp rifles.
To finish things I'd add an ar15.
Mark.

NCLivingBrit
May 5, 2007, 12:52 AM
One of each issued type of the Webley revolver, all calibres.

One of each issued type of Vickers gun.

And just for giggles, an MG42 and a few dozen crates of ammo.

Orthonym
May 5, 2007, 02:20 AM
Davy Crockett, with 12dozen live rounds. I promise I'd only shoot it at golf courses, and turn the yield down to 1/2 kiloton. And check the winds first, and everything.! Sorry, I _do_ live in Southern Florida. :-)

Realistically?

A DeLisle Silent Carbine.

greenflash107
May 5, 2007, 12:34 PM
A BAR and 1911

M92FS
May 5, 2007, 12:52 PM
In the pre-1960 category:
Rifle: Garand
Submachine gun: Thompson M1
Pistol: Walther P38

In the present day category:
Rifle: AK-47
Submachine gun: MP5A3
Pistol: Mk 23

theP8riot
May 5, 2007, 01:16 PM
A musket carried by one of the original Minute Men.

A BAR would be cool to.

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