Hunting while on an Alaskan Cruise?


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hobbeeman
May 2, 2007, 01:43 AM
Is it possible to find some sort of hunt while on an Alaskan Cruise? The cruise lasts 7 days, and I figure that my son and I could leave the ship at some point to take in some of the famous hunts. There are some fishing excursions from the ship that cost from $200-$800/person.

Anyone have any experience with this?

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Polishrifleman
May 2, 2007, 03:22 AM
I used to fish out of Ketchikan during college. I wouldn't take a cruise ship excursion to fish there. I would take a separate 3 day trip.

I don't know about the other ports of call. From my experience if you decide to fish look for the smallest fastest boat out there. You want to get as far out as possible. You along with a bunch of your buffet eating cruisemates will all be going and you only have so much time for the excursion.

They didn't run hunts out of town but that doesn't mean they wouldn't. It is an interesting concept. You would have to borrow a firearm etc... Let me know what you find out.

Remember even though it is Alaska it is still hunting and fishing, not killing and catching.

H&Hhunter
May 2, 2007, 11:21 AM
You know you might be a redneck if.......:D

hobbeeman
May 2, 2007, 12:11 PM
I do feel a little out of place, taking an Alaskan Cruise. :confused: I would much rather book a week long hunt with my boy, but this is the way that I can get to Alaska with my wife and daughter too. I would entertain the idea of getting off the ship for a few days and try to catch up to it somewhere along the route.

I have made many "odd" trips to try and keep my WHOLE FAMILY happy. Remember, if momma ain't happy, then nobody's happy :eek: :D

BTW, next time anyone goes to Disney World, the fishing is AWESOME! Even on the Disney property :p

hobbeeman
May 2, 2007, 12:17 PM
Polish,
Why would I have to borrow a firearm?

I guess I need to check into this more. I am a CCW also, I honestly was so excited about Alaska, I have not checked into the rules about crossing into the states, and Canada yet...

H&Hhunter
May 2, 2007, 03:52 PM
I am a CCW also, I honestly was so excited about Alaska, I have not checked into the rules about crossing into the states, and Canada yet...

No can do. Pistols are strictly forbidden in the Socialist republic of Canada.

You can transport a sporting long arm into Canada for a fee and then only certain types. No pistol grips, no assault style weapons ETC.

I sure that the cruise line will have rules against firearms on board.:o

Polishrifleman
May 2, 2007, 04:46 PM
Thanks H&H for the follow up.

MDHunter
May 2, 2007, 11:08 PM
When are you going, and where are the ports you're stopping at in Alaska? It might be remotely possible, but it sure won't be easy. While there's a lot of game in Alaska, much of it is quite a ways from the road system.

Michael

hobbeeman
May 3, 2007, 12:04 AM
The ship leaves Vancouver Aug 31, and reaches Juneau on Sept 2. Then 9-3 Skagway, 9-5 Ketchikan, 9-7 back to Vancouver. There are several excursions that include helicopters and planes. I was wondering if anyone knew of any pilots in those areas? Some of these outings have fishing, but most of them are for bear and flower watching. Do these cruise ships allow people to leave for a night or two? Do they have a helipad on the ship? I found an outfitter on ebay on Prince of Wales Island. I am going to contact them.

zinj
May 3, 2007, 12:58 AM
As someone who has been on a couple of cruises (though not to Alaska), there is no realistic way you can hunt. First of all, the window that the ship is in port is going to be too short to actually hunt, which is much more involved than just fishing. Look at it as an outfitter. You would have to deal with licences and tags, check that the client can acutally shoot, transport them to prospective hunting grounds, locate game, stalk it, shoot it, and transport the client back to the boat in a 10-12 hour window.

You also cannot just leave the boat and get back on at the next port. The crew is accountable for all passengers, and if you don't check back aboard at the debarkation time they are going to have to stay in port, and eventually contact local authorities if you don't show.

Cruise boats certainly do not allow passengers bringing firearms aboard. First of all the boats don't stay in the U.S. the whole year, and thus must have a standard of compliance that can be applied to all voyages. Secondly, although most members don't want to hear this, passenger firearms would represent a huge liability risk aboard, especially considering the fact that alcohol is everywhere. The ship does have its own security, and they are very motivated for all guests safety (the CC cameras in public areas help too).

My advice is to just enjoy the trip as is. There will be interesting things to do everyday, and just going into each port to explore can easily take up a whole day. The excursions arranged by the cruiseline are also generally quite good. If you want to do some Alaskan hunting you really need to contact an outfitter and plan a trip just for that.

H&Hhunter
May 3, 2007, 01:04 PM
Hobbee,

My professional advice from the viewpoint of current major international airline pilot and a former Alaskan bush pilot is to STAY OFF any of the airplane or helicopter tours.

These are run by cut rate operators who bring in inexperienced pilots to fly cruise ship tours for the summer season. There have been multiple fatal and non fatal serious accidents with these guys.

The aircraft as a rule are old rickety P.O.C. with young (or old) inexperienced pilots flying them in marginal weather over extreme terrain. This is simply not a good mix.

hobbeeman
May 3, 2007, 02:41 PM
I really do appreciate all of the advice. I don't have alot of experience with vacations, that is, nice vacations. My wife and her family are trying to help me into this type of thing, as I grew up fairly modestly. One of the things that I always try to do is learn from others experiences rather than make the mistakes all by myself.

H&H, That information is very good to know!

Zinj, Thanks for your experience as well. You said exactly what my wife wanted to hear!

On the brighter side, after the conversations that this has generated in my family, my wife is encouraging me to plan another trip to Alaska next year with my son for a 7day hunt/fish/awesome time!!

God is Great and works in our lives!

Thanks guys,
David, aka hobbeeman

MDHunter
May 3, 2007, 11:55 PM
Dave,

Great that you can enjoy the vacation cruise this year, and puttogether a hunt with your son next year! A lot easier to plan logistics that way.

+1 on the stay away from charter flights tied to cruises. Several planes go down in Alaska each year, between the uneven terrain, the winds, the clouds that drop in out of nowhere, and people plain taking chances that don't need to be taken.

Have a great cruise, you'll see country and sights like you've never laid eyes on!

Michael

SoCalShooter
May 4, 2007, 12:36 AM
Hey I might be there the same time as you. I need to check my itinerary!!

eliphalet
May 4, 2007, 01:30 PM
Take the ferry from Seattle. It's not so fance but you can stop along the way for days if you so desire. Have the chance to meet and see a lot more places and people. Cruises are nice but in a way you might as well be at a 5 star motel world wide except ffor the view.

MDHunter
May 5, 2007, 12:20 AM
David,

Have a great time on the cruise! Shoot me a PM when you return in late September, I've gone to Alaska each of the past 6 years, and have hunted 4 of those years...I'll be happy to help you sort through all the logistics, a lot of planning involved in an Alaskan hunt!

Michael

hobbeeman
May 5, 2007, 02:48 AM
Thanks Mike :) I brought the subject up tonight while we were out with friends, and they warned me that after a hunting trip in Alaska, I will want to move up there permanently!

SoCal, the name of the Cruise group we are traveling with is the "First Founders Alaskan Cruise", a business group that my in-laws belong to. Of course, I won't be going to any of their meetings etc. :barf: . I get plenty of meetings of my own to attend running the ALF/Nsg home :banghead:

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