Call NOW before they kill Park Carry in TN


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SomeKid
May 2, 2007, 12:23 PM
There has been a lot of talk and uncertainty about these bills recently, I just got an update from one of the TFA leaders about them. Here is the story.

As most of you know, House Bill 132, sponsored by Representative Mike Bell (R-23), would allow a person with a handgun carry permit to possess a firearm in all public hunting areas, refuges, wildlife management areas, and national forests managed by the state; House Bill 2184, sponsored by Representative Frank Nicely (R-17), would allow any resident, who has a valid handgun carry permit, to possess his or her handgun while within the boundaries of any state park.

While you may have read in the papers or on TV that Rob Briley has proposed an amendment allowing you to carry in government and public buildings civic centers and playgrounds, there is NO amendment for HB2184. It appears this is a ploy by Briley to fool you into thinking he is in favor of Niceley's bill so you won't bother to support the bill. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nicely also said the commissioner of parks is adamantly opposed to his bill.

Speaking of ploys TWRA (the guys who don't think your carry permit is worth a dime on their property) have prompted a "fiscal note" to Bell's bill that the state would lose $11,000 in fines were the bill to pass. This seems a bit odd that allowing carry permit holders to carry in public hunting areas would have any impact, since TWRA can't come up with a single case of a permit holder being arrested for poaching or violating game laws. TWRA say "they don't make a distinction between poachers and permit holders"--Maybe they should.

I spoke with both Bell and Nicely today and both their bills are being rolled a week forward because one member of the judiciary who favors both bills will not be there tomorrow. They both tell me that they have 6 of the 10 judiciary members in favor of the two bills.

Both suggested that it would help get these two bills passed if people would phone in and thank the two freshman Democrats are voting for the bills. That means we have a few extra days to make those phone calls, but it also means that Rob Briley and Janis Sontany, ranking Democrats on the House Judiciary will have the same amount of time to try and browbeat Bass and Fincher into changing their vote.

You can use the toll free number for the General Assembly, 1-800-449-8366. Henry Fincher's Ext is 11875 and Eddie Bass's is 11864.
This is our chance to may a difference.

This is your chance to make a difference.

Get the phones up, and call them folks. If these bills make it to the house floor, we win. Especially make sure 0132 gets first support, as my understanding puts it as the better bill. If one of the names you saw is your Rep, make doubly sure to call them!

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hso
May 2, 2007, 12:31 PM
Call 1-800-449-8366 and extensions 11875 and 11864 and tell the staffer that answers the telephone that you are calling in support of HB 132.

Call and email your friends and associates and ask them to do the same.

SamTuckerMTNMAN
May 2, 2007, 12:43 PM
is it helpful for someone next door (NC) to call, because we visit regularly and have thought about moving to TN?

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Nails
May 2, 2007, 12:46 PM
Dang, SomeKid was right all along! There really is nothing lower than some of these people. I heard about this several days ago but didn't post because I was afraid the whole sorted affair would sound unbelievable.

What I do hear is that the votes are there to pass this to the floor of the house, but it is ever so close. I've gotten quite a few people to call and e mail about these bills, but since it is delayed for another week we all have a chance to do more. Remember, calling your Reps is always good but right now it is the Judiciary committee members who we need to focus on.

TFA seems to have a good plan to concentrate on the two Dems voting our way. I own my own business and most days I work over 11 or 12 hours but if I have to, I'm getting a couple of my guys together and we're going to stand outside of a Walmart with preprinted letters for people to sign.

hso
May 2, 2007, 12:47 PM
It is an excellent idea to call and point out that you bring tourist dollars into Tennessee and feel safer knowing that your Carry Permit is good everywhere you go in the state.

Keep the call brief, but tell them that states that make their carry laws too confusing and contradictory make it difficult for tourists to choose to spend their dollars there and that you want to legally carry in those state parks and wildlife areas you enjoy so much!

buzz_knox
May 2, 2007, 12:57 PM
I've left messages with Bass and Fincher supporting the bills.

dralarms
May 2, 2007, 03:43 PM
I called and left a message on the first number, however the second number I got this very nice lady that told me that he was absolutely for this bill and would do everything he could to get it on the floor.:D

hso
May 2, 2007, 03:52 PM
Sent and email with this message out to the same folks that got the letter template emails.

Jamie C.
May 2, 2007, 05:40 PM
Okay, now I'm really confused...

House Bill 132, sponsored by Representative Mike Bell (R-23), would allow a person with a handgun carry permit to possess a firearm in all public hunting areas, refuges, wildlife management areas, and national forests managed by the state; House Bill 2184, sponsored by Representative Frank Nicely (R-17), would allow any resident, who has a valid handgun carry permit, to possess his or her handgun while within the boundaries of any state park.

What was reported on the local news here was that Bell had proposed a bill to allow carry in state parks, and that Nicely had proposed an amendment which would allow carry in state buildings, offices, ect...

Now I'm not quite sure who is doing what to who... :confused: but I get the sneaking suspicion that it's us gun owners who're about to get "done". :scrutiny:

No wonder I hate politics so much. :fire:


J.C.

SomeKid
May 2, 2007, 07:37 PM
J.C., as of right now, Naifeh and his cronies (Briley, Sontany, etc.) are attempting to bend us over a barrel.

We have a chance to stop the barrel bending for once, so I hope it gets taken.

This is, of course, the part of politics I like. I love the concept of shafting our overlords in such a manner.

waynesan
May 2, 2007, 10:14 PM
I have to work tomorrow but I will be making calls on Friday. I have spent a lot of time on the phone this session. More than I have ever done before. Finally got off my duff and decided to be more active in trying to get things done.

Kentucky
May 3, 2007, 12:36 PM
Calls made, now trying to pass the word.

UKTN
May 3, 2007, 03:15 PM
I tried calling but was put on hold for a long time, I tried emailing but the email address I found for Fincher bounced back anyone have the right email address's?

DrBoomBoom
May 5, 2007, 11:43 AM
Called. I left messages. We need to stay on the offensive, things are looking good. The mood in the country seems to be on our side. Now is not the time for complacency. Thanks to all for the work.

SomeKid
May 6, 2007, 01:47 PM
UKTN, check and see if there wasn't a typo, if not, check the TN legislature, and get the address straight from there.

UKTN
May 7, 2007, 10:06 AM
Found email address on the Tennessee firearms association emails sent.

tn-dave
May 8, 2007, 10:33 AM
Here's a story from Knoxville's wbir (NBC)

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=44967

interesting--- "opposing the bill are the head of the agency that runs state parks, and the Tennessee Association of Chiefs of Police"

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