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max popenker
May 7, 2007, 03:27 AM
Hello

Here's some WW2 era posters, just to remember what our grand-dads did 62 years ago.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57698&stc=1&d=1178519026
Our mother country calls.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57699&stc=1&d=1178519026
Let's save the Leningrad

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57700&stc=1&d=1178519026
Daddy, kill Germans

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57701&stc=1&d=1178519026
Forward to Victory - through enemy territory

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=57702&stc=1&d=1178519026
So it will happen

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230RN
May 7, 2007, 03:37 AM
And let's never forget this one.

(And let's not start one of those "who won the war" embroglios. The fact illustrated by this poster was that there was an appeal to armed US citzens to lend firearms to the British.)

lawson4
May 7, 2007, 08:07 AM
^^^^^^^
And the poster didn't say to send them UPS or FedX. They assumed you would box them up and send them by USPS (that was about the only way most people could ship something).
Now, some of the politicos don't want us to have arms, let alone mail them somewhere.

lawson4
Rick

WeedWhacker
May 7, 2007, 08:45 AM
Send 'em to Britain via New York City, of all places.

How times have changed. O.o

sterling180
May 7, 2007, 09:00 AM
We were disarmed by liberal people,of most "cool" weapons and now they are still fighting,to disarm us of more weapons-now.

max popenker
May 8, 2007, 07:00 AM
one more
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sarmata/Poster_russian.jpg

PAshooter
May 8, 2007, 08:36 AM
Don't forget that our grand-moms did their part as well :)

I particularly like the last poster in the first set... with the US, Soviet, and British (?) flags.

I have always felt... through all the intervening years... that our people were never "enemies." It's those pesky governments that get in the way :neener:

El Tejon
May 8, 2007, 09:38 AM
I've never seen the one with the PPS before.

Thank you for posting those, Max.:)

max popenker
May 8, 2007, 10:11 AM
I have always felt... through all the intervening years... that our people were never "enemies." It's those pesky governments that get in the way
Exactly that.
However, because of different cultural backgrounds and different brain-washing techniques employed by said governments, some people (i mean - populations of some countries) tend to be more or less aggressive, generally speaking

sansone
May 8, 2007, 10:30 AM
I hope this thread runs a good while. my wife's a school teacher and tells me the kids reject even the smallest of sacrifices.

iamkris
May 8, 2007, 01:35 PM
I am truely awed by the resolve of that generation. I know there was a lot of dissent and angst, yet they were called up and they served.

Watch the the whole Band of Brothers series sometimes and tell me you can imagine slugging through that. We owe them everything.

Nekron
May 8, 2007, 01:52 PM
Great posters Max, thank you very much! Do you have any more of those?

Outlaw Man
May 8, 2007, 06:18 PM
Cool posters! Thanks for sharing.

bogie
May 8, 2007, 06:57 PM
Max, any way you could translate? I'd love to have an idea what they say, but since I'm your typical ugly American, the only foreign words I know all mean "beer."

Also, if you have some high resolution images, I'd love to print some copies for one of the walls in my home theater - Bogie's Bunker.

beaucoup ammo
May 8, 2007, 07:03 PM
Hats off, Max! Those are truely memorable. Reminds me of the film "Enemy At The Gates" and what the Russians did there. Amazing stuff..thanks for sharing!

Run&Shoot
May 8, 2007, 07:24 PM
Fantastic thread. Thanks Max! It is good to remember the great sacrifices made on our behalf by fathers and grandfathers back then. Whenever I read about the battles in Russia the scale of forces involved, civilian and service personnel lives lost and injured, and infrastructure destroyed is staggering. Hard to even imagine conflict that intense, under such brutal conditions, and yet the Russian men kept coming to the front, often without a rifle of their own, just planning to pick one up from a fallen comrade. Such men!

quatin
May 8, 2007, 07:45 PM
http://www.the-forum.com/posters/images/wwii-13.jpg
I wonder if we can get a library together of every country that fought.

lionking
May 8, 2007, 11:17 PM
quote;I wonder if we can get a library together of every country that fought

that would be cool:cool:

Malone LaVeigh
May 8, 2007, 11:23 PM
I have a Mosin and a Garand. Eventually, I'd like to have every battle rifle that whupped the Nazis.

Neo-Luddite
May 9, 2007, 12:07 AM
.

Evil Monkey
May 9, 2007, 12:14 AM
This man is your friend. He fights for FREEDOM.

That is ironic, isn't it? :D

lionking
May 9, 2007, 01:42 AM
well here is a classic,seen many times but still my favorite.

Autolycus
May 9, 2007, 01:56 AM
When will the modern ones start?

Malone LaVeigh
May 9, 2007, 02:17 AM
When will the modern ones start?
I think some of Oleg's show a strong influence of the old war posters.

ARTiger
May 9, 2007, 02:30 AM
Here are a few I like . . .

http://www.library.northwestern.edu/govpub/collections/wwii-posters/img/ww1646-12.jpg
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/govpub/collections/wwii-posters/img/ww1645-30.jpg
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/govpub/collections/wwii-posters/img/ww1645-21.jpg
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/govpub/collections/wwii-posters/img/ww1646-25.jpg
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/govpub/collections/wwii-posters/img/ww0207-10.jpg

Cosmoline
May 9, 2007, 03:20 AM
On May 9th, all Mosins are Russian Mosins.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/Gussick/Mosin-1.jpg

Mumwaldee
May 9, 2007, 03:27 AM
Here are a couple I found at this site.

http://www.propagandaposters.us/poster1.html

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1669/sacrificecx1.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sacrificecx1.jpg)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3766/tenyearsagowf9.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tenyearsagowf9.jpg)

jeepmor
May 9, 2007, 03:40 AM
May we, as Americans, never need anyone to send us their guns!!

Mumwaldee
May 9, 2007, 03:41 AM
Here are a few more I found that I thought were nice.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7201/ww020752bo6.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww020752bo6.jpg)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/407/ww164649hh5.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww164649hh5.jpg)

Mumwaldee
May 9, 2007, 03:46 AM
I wonder if we can get a library together of every country that fought

that would be cool

This link:

http://www.library.northwestern.edu/govinfo/collections/wwii-posters/

Has Dutch/Canadian/Russian/Ethiopian versions possibly more.

Nightcrawler
May 9, 2007, 05:16 AM
I can't decide who suffered more in the war; the Russians or the Chinese. The Chinese were already embroiled in a civil war, if I recall correctly, when the Japanese launched their brutal invasion in 1931.

The Russians, of course, were caught between Hitler and Stalin. I don't know which one of those men killed more Russian people, but between the two of them the Soviet Union lost (I think) 40,000,000 people by 1945.

Cosmoline
May 9, 2007, 02:42 PM
There's no real contest. China was hit hard, but couldn't put up much of a fight. The battles on the Russian front were much larger and more intense. They remain the biggest and bloodiest in human history. The Chinese lost several million, but the Russians lost well over 20, possibly 30 or more million. The Chinese also had a larger population to begin with, and of course continued to grow fast after the war. Russia was hit so hard, and lost such a percentage of young men, that it never really recovered. Even to this day the population is in decline and suffers from what almost seems like a multi-generational case of PTSD.

quatin
May 9, 2007, 04:26 PM
I don't think it's exactly a "no real contest" evaluation. China lost some 20 million during WW2 alone and Russia maybe 5 million more than that. Also, consider that China was still suffering under western imperialism (colonies) and was waging a civil war before Japan invaded. The civil war continued after Japan surrendered. China also suffered an exuberate amount of human rights atrocities, which is rarely mentioned in text books (being overshadowed by the Holocaust). Japan had also setup concentration camps, mass executions and forced slave labor in military brothels. (Another reason why China suffered more civilian loses than military) This is similar to asking who lost more, the Jews or the Russians?

Cosmoline
May 9, 2007, 05:58 PM
China lost some 20 million during WW2 alone

The only way you can get to that high a figure is to include high estimates of secondary (famine, disease) deaths from the communist vs. nationalist civil war. As you note, that conflict predated WWII and continued after it. Adding those deaths to total WWII deaths would be like adding the Ukrainian famine deaths to the Soviet total. I'm not trying to downplay what China went through, but trying to compare any conflict to the eastern front of WWII is difficult. The scale and intensity is so far beyond anything in our frame of reference it's hard to imagine. The western front during the peak of the first world war is probably the closest, but in that case far fewer civilans were killed. There has never been, and hopefully never will be, any human conflict on the same scale as the ostfront in WWII.

I also want to be clear, I'm not prepared to compare atrocities. I don't think one atrocity can be compared to another. I'm talking about warfare. It is possible to measure one battle against another. And on that scale, the ostfront was the worst by far and victory there came with the highest pricetag.

kludge
May 9, 2007, 06:27 PM
I have always felt... through all the intervening years... that our people were never "enemies." It's those pesky governments that get in the way :neener:

PAShooter,

I couldn't agree more.

I travel to China once or twice a year. And even though the people there are indoctrinated with communism, they are pretty much like most people here who just work hard, love their families and want to live a comfortable life.

Powermongering and moneygrubbing people are the ones who cause ALL wars.

Tinmancr
May 9, 2007, 07:26 PM
let us never forget what our grandfathers great uncles and what everyone else did too.
I've known a some vets from different wars, to look at those posters is moving.
almost brought tears to my eyes, both my grandfathers are dead not by war.
my great grandfather on my fathers side was in the navy in WWII.
uh as I remember China was pretty much feudal at that time "A" civil war is not accurate.
they were clan to clan for while, or at least that is what they taught in history when I was a kid.
oh on a bit less emotional note the smiling Russian poster, is that a vodka face or what?


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sarmata/Poster_russian.jpg

tsalagikola
May 9, 2007, 07:33 PM
I don't have any posters but this is my father from World War II to the Korean War.

http://www.freewebs.com/ofpmodders/myfatherswars.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/ofpmodders/myfathersawardspage.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/ofpmodders/dadswartimepictures.htm

quatin
May 9, 2007, 07:34 PM
The only way you can get to that high a figure is to include high estimates of secondary (famine, disease) deaths from the communist vs. nationalist civil war.

These should be western estimates, since China recorded 35 million casualties. The worst of the famine shouldn't be from the civil war (which started 4 years prior). The worst of it was caused by 14 years of the Sino-Japanese war. Realize that the Sino-Japanese war started 10 years prior to the European front and was the last front to be settled. The Japanese took on a kill and raze strategy, the worst being represented in the Massacre of Nanjing.

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