Officer leaves loaded gun in University Restroom


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RIDE
May 7, 2007, 10:04 AM
LINK: http://www.kansas.com/212/story/63595.html

My favorite part:
The officer, from Wichita's North Patrol, was given his Glock, and WSU police called his supervisors, said Paul Dotson, chief of police at Wichita State University.

"We are all human, we tend to do some things by rote, and sometimes we all do forgetful things," Dotson said. "It turned out OK here."

Riiiiiight... but had this been a civilian who left his loaded weapon in a bathroom somewhere... it surely would not be a "human" mistake of being "forgetful", but a CRIME of negligence.

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Pilgrim
May 7, 2007, 11:00 AM
Undoubtedly the officer will have an infamous nickname from now on.

Pilgrim

yhtomit
May 7, 2007, 11:27 AM
Pilgrim wrote:

"Undoubtedly the officer will have an infamous nickname from now on."

Which, you know, is probably the correct outcome for any non-malicious, non-harmful negligent act, involving a gun or not. (At least, if non-malicious, non-harmful acts should ever even be eligible for charges, a point on which I have an opinion.) It would consist of a two-stage punishment:

1) Having your new embarrassing nickname (You are hereby and henceforth to be known on all occasions as William "What Gun?" O'Shea!") assigned by a Judge, who will have been well trained in insultology, and has been allowed to consult with your friends and enemies to find the one most humiliating to you. (Or, he could spend three days in a sweat lodge to come up with your Not-such-a-warrior name.)

2) Being required to do your time -- that is, to go have all your official papers updated to reflect the "What Gun?" designation.

This reminds me of the case involving Huckabee's son; it's not that the tap-on-wrist punishment is inappropriate in absolute terms, it's that I suspect a lot of "ordinary" folk (not LEO, not politically connected) would get far worse treatment, and that's fine -- if you want to have a samurai class.

Will pull / influence whatever always have some power? I can't imagine that they wouldn't, but in cases like this, it would be easy to design laws that protect people from over-enthusiastic bullying by acknowledging that a chiding and the quick return of a recovered gun is the right thing to do, rather than only being the nicest option in a range that gets far more onerous.

timothy

reppondj
May 7, 2007, 12:12 PM
I dont know about yall but I think I would have missed it, lol. After a tour in Afghanistan and a tour in Iraq, carrying a pistol and rifle every day, when I got back every time I turned around I was looking for my weapons. That went on for several weeks before the habit wore off.

ProficientRifleman
May 7, 2007, 03:34 PM
Riiiiiight... but had this been a civilian who left his loaded weapon in a bathroom somewhere... it surely would not be a "human" mistake of being "forgetful", but a CRIME of negligence.

Are these "civilians" you speak of in some other category than the police officer spoken of in the thread?

I say again...Police Officers ARE CIVILIANS! They are not ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY, therefor they are CIVILIAN Police Officers.

cuervo
May 8, 2007, 01:20 AM
The link is gone. Does anyone have the text of it to post?

PR--that's always been a peeve of mine, too. Police are civil law enforcement.

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