college response to "Carry on Campus" essay


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PRazz
May 8, 2007, 03:04 PM
I posted elsewhere about writing my final argument for English class on the subject of allowing "licensed to carry" individuals do so on campus. I turned in that essay Monday morning and the following is a message the whole school received from our emergency response team:

Just a reminder that in the event of any incident or emergency:

If you are in immediate danger, seek cover.
If a faculty or staff member is available report the nature of emergency and location.
If no one is immediately available, call 911 and report the nature of the emergency and location.
Report the incident to security as soon as possible at 268-0610
Follow all instructions given by faculty or staff and remain as calm as possible.

Be a good witness, report any suspicious behavior to a faculty or staff member or security. Do not try to be a hero.

Sounds like bend over and kiss your arse goodbye or beg for mercy should be added to the bulleted points. This has been the first time that this issue has been adressed other than to offer counseling and support. I can't help but think that the essay got turned over and I'll now be marked as an agitator. Naw, this is America, that never happens here(sarcasm) Anyway, thought I would share. I love the "don't try to be a hero." I just want the ability to save my own arse if the brown stuff hits the rotary device.

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strat81
May 8, 2007, 03:28 PM
Agreed. It might sound selfish, but I carry because the only one who will look out for number 1 is number 1. And let me tell you, number 1 will do his best to get out of Dodge ASAP. Every man for himself and what not.

mljdeckard
May 8, 2007, 04:26 PM
The bottom line is their bottom line.

They are the same as any other entity big enough to be worth suing. After the incident occurs, the heroes and cowards are exposed, the dead are buried and the surviving offender is prosecuted, someone will want to sue. That little notice is their primary means of defense, in being able to say that they neither permit guns nor encourage violence from anyone.

Like the poster above me said, always remember. They are not interested in the least in protecting you. They are interested in making sure they are not sued for failing to protect anyone. There's a BIG difference.

Bezoar
May 13, 2007, 01:54 AM
who is actually going to believe that the campus rent a cop (most likely a student in a law program at that college) is going to put his or her chrome plated cracker-jack prize "badge" between you and an armed sociopathic killer?

all the campus rentacops i know would have never risked stepping into danger and risking the shiny chrome plastic badges. They would have been the ones leading the stampede away from danger.

Yeah i knew them for 5-6 eyars on campus. THey were really great for scheduling their patrols so that they would miss the least amount of telivision and sporting events for the night. And i cant forget their ability to sense the right time to go "investigate possibe open window violations" at the time most of the female dorm occupants were most likely to be changing infront of open blinds..

Id rather have a gun on me and "risk having it taken away by the criminal" then relying upon the rent a cop

bogie
May 14, 2007, 01:20 AM
Congratulations. Be an agitator.

And be very nice and polite to the security folks.

A few months back, I had a little bit of a "make a gawdawful scene" fest at a local franchise of a national chain that does a "we sell you a makeup job, and then a hugely overpriced batch of badly retouched photos" when Jen's niece had her $100 "session" turn into a $3,000 bill...

Of course, I picked a Saturday evening to go in and chew 'em out about their horrible hard sell tactics, taking advantage of a fireman's daughter, etc., etc., etc... (they eventually cut a deal, but not that evening - never give up).

So, I did my thing, and about the time I figured that my time was about to run out, I started moseying down the mall...

Coupla security guys are moving with a purpose in that direction. I stop one of 'em, and tell him "Hey, you don't have to move so fast - I'm the problem you're responding to..." and proceded to tell 'em the story of how the evil folks had screwed over the poor fireman's daughter... Heh, heh, heh...

I don't know if they responded quite as fast when the next scene happened there...

PRazz
May 15, 2007, 12:49 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone. My next step is to summarize my essay and send it to the local papers(letter to the editor). I know the chances of another incident affecting me personally are slim, but I can't help feel vulnerable.
for example: a couple weeks ago a student was kicked out of one of my classes and left very angrily, slamming desks around and slamming the door really hard. The little hairs on my neck stood up so I decided to leave class early and move to another location. I knew that it was very unlikely they would come back, but who knows? I guess that is called "situational awarness" as I don't like to call it paranoia.

I will not break policy or laws in regards to carrying on campus. I know that I could conceal without problems but I view myself as law-abiding and try to do everything in my power to stay out of prison. I also like to view myself as a representative of the pro-gun community and would feel total shame if I did something that made you all look bad.

The only thing security is good for at my school is emptying ashtrays and writing parking tickets. At least they are big enough that i could use a guard as a shield, or hop on the back of one of their golf carts as they flee the scene. :)

DogBonz
May 15, 2007, 12:58 PM
These are the same folks who brought you "Duck and Cover"...

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