Sad tale of a 1921 Thompson.


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Feanaro
May 8, 2007, 06:16 PM
Today I inventoried a Thompson SMG, model of 1921. Serial number 110. I'm sure you can guess what kind of organization owns it. Didn't get to "play" with it long. The buttstock felt a little loose but otherwise it seemed to be in prime condition. There is a 1921, serial number in the 3000 range, on gunsamerica right now for $50,000. It broke my heart to hold this babe, because the gun isn't going anywhere. It's not transferable. :banghead:

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AntiqueCollector
May 8, 2007, 07:04 PM
What a shame. I would love a Thompson SMG someday but the prices of any MG or SMG are insane now...

DoubleTapDrew
May 8, 2007, 07:10 PM
That's sad. Those are one of my favorite SMGs, oozing with history.

Why can't we have a humane society for abandoned weapons?

"Fun loving old Thompson needs a caring home for proper care and long term companionship. Likes walks, cuddling, and long full-auto bursts. $200 adoption fee"

Nomad, 2nd
May 8, 2007, 07:18 PM
I remember the guy who found one a couple years ago in the wall of an old house he was renovating. (Chicago I think)
It was in a case, with ALOT of ammo and mags.

DUMB@$$ called the cops when he found it and then was ticked off when they took it.

Jmeyer1292
May 8, 2007, 08:12 PM
What kind of organization does this Thompson belong to? What will happen to it?

Something needs to be done in the United States to lift the ban on machine guns and all the import crap. I mean, a Thompson would be the holy grail of my collection, but as of now...:fire:

Feanaro
May 8, 2007, 09:24 PM
What kind of organization does this Thompson belong to?

Starts with "po" and the rest of the letters form the name of a bug that gets in your hair.

What will happen to it?

So far as I know, it will sit in a dark room until Judgement Day.

Jim Watson
May 8, 2007, 09:27 PM
I remember the guy who found one a couple years ago in the wall of an old house he was renovating. (Chicago I think)
It was in a case, with ALOT of ammo and mags.

DUMB@$$ called the cops when he found it and then was ticked off when they took it.

And what would you have him do? Stash it away until the next generation found it? Take it out and play with it until somebody noticed and got him put in the pen?

denfoote
May 8, 2007, 09:30 PM
I still remember that suspicious voice vote that ended machine gun sales!!

Jmeyer1292
May 8, 2007, 10:06 PM
As for that Thompson found in the wall: you bet the guy should have kept it. Fondle it, strip it, clean it, oil it up, and cache it. Better it sit till judgment day on my property than in a police warehouse, or worse. I know I would.

BobCav
May 8, 2007, 10:11 PM
Bravo!! What's a life, a fortune or a sacred honor compared to true freedom anyway?

Avenger29
May 8, 2007, 10:11 PM
Yep, I would clean one up, and get it packed for preservation. Then again, I live out in the middle of nowhere, so I wouldn't have a problem. I could even fire it some if I wanted, but I would be afraid of breaking parts.

4v50 Gary
May 8, 2007, 10:16 PM
SFPD has over 30 of them and one of them was originally purchased by the Federal Prison System (probably Alcatraz). How SFPD acquired it is unknown to them too. None were registered and none are transferrable. Too bad.

Feanaro
May 8, 2007, 10:50 PM
How SFPD acquired it is unknown to them too.

A similar situation here. When asked why a PD with fewer than 20 employees has a Thompson SMG sitting in some back room, the answer is a puzzled look.

bpsig
May 8, 2007, 11:15 PM
I remember back in 1993 a police distributor was trying to get rid of some for a minimal price. I begged , pleaded and even promised to the boses car etc.
They were hung up on buying some 9mm austrian sub gun or m-16's.. We even took a collection to buy a lot of them at the low low super steal price Of $ 50.00 each . No not a misprint And they refused !!!!!!!!!!!
So anyways after many years I finally found a semi m1 thats sitting in safe and stuck with a colt frankenstein 16 or the old gm hydromatic division m16 for work.

351 WINCHESTER
May 8, 2007, 11:56 PM
I had a chance to buy a Thompson from a good friend of mine. Don't know if it was registered or not, but he only wanted $1,000. for it. I don't recall the model, but he had several stick mags. The reason I didn't buy it was because our local sheriff would not allow civies to have full auto.

I was young and nieve. If that were to happen today I'd just give him the $ and run.

Dr. Dickie
May 9, 2007, 08:45 AM
I remember the guy who found one a couple years ago in the wall of an old house he was renovating. (Chicago I think)
It was in a case, with ALOT of ammo and mags.

He should have called Geraldo, I think that was what he was looking for a few years back.:neener:

Joe Demko
May 9, 2007, 09:26 AM
Lots of small town police forces have surprising stuff in their armories. Back when it was easy for private citizens to by full-auto stuff, it was easy for LE too and the prices weren't insane. Also, some of the stuff they have they confiscated and kept, accountability wasn't always the sacred thing it is now.
Why they have it varies from place to place. Here in PA, lots of podunk departments have/had Thompsons and such because they thought they needed them to deal with unrest amongst the miners and steel workers. Other regions, no doubt, had other groups who the police needed to keep in their place.

hso
May 9, 2007, 09:41 AM
I could be wrong, but I think that gun can get papers for transfer if it was bought long ago and registered it. If they traded it to a class 3 dealer for some cheap selective fire M-4s or MP5s I've been told the dealer then can sell it as a transferable MG. If a dealer knows otherwise please let me know.

Onmilo
May 9, 2007, 11:05 AM
The po-ticks own this gun??:D
I feel like finding my CD with Taps on it now,,,,,,

Tommygunn
May 9, 2007, 11:07 AM
Quite a number of years ago now, when I was living in another state, I agreed to help a friend who's father (a WW2 vet) had died clean out his house. In the attic we found an old chest, which when we opened, contained a WW2 army uniform, a belt with mag pouches, a Colt 1911 in a holster, and ... a 1928A1 Thompson, wrapped up in some kind of oil paper.
My friend's jaw would have hit the ground if it was physiologically possible.


And, no; I have NO IDEA what he did with it........

Onmilo
May 9, 2007, 11:12 AM
SHHHHH!
I know a WW2 vet who went to jail for possessing a genuine STEN gun 'off the books."

Outlaw Man
May 9, 2007, 12:01 PM
Man, that stinks. I'd pay a few thousand for a real deal Thompson right now. I might shoot it once or twice, but they're so cool and have so much history the collector value alone is worth a few thousand to me. But there's no way I could afford, or even be willing to pay if I had it, $30-50,000 for one of them.

I don't know if the price would ever drop that low even if the registry was reopened, but at least someone would be more likely to afford one...someone who would really appreciate it, not just someone who has loads of cash just to buy something someone else can't get.

jerkyman45
May 9, 2007, 02:38 PM
That is a shame, the '86 ban makes no sense at all.

MAUSER88
May 9, 2007, 03:32 PM
Yeah, Thanks Clinton!!!

Jmeyer1292
May 9, 2007, 04:02 PM
Try Reagan.

hso
May 9, 2007, 04:10 PM
Yeah, Thanks Clinton!!!

I hope that was meant as ironic humor.

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/pdf/SW76.pdf

Feanaro
May 9, 2007, 05:38 PM
Hmmm. Inventoried a display case today. For a Thompson SMG. "Original owner: Alabama Fuel and Iron Company, Donated to blah". That means that at some point it was probably owned by this corporation, unless they found it in an attic or gave it away at the onset of the NFA. Would it still be registered? It's not my job to figure these things out but the PD in question could certainly use a quick 30,000+ dollars.

Tinmancr
May 9, 2007, 06:08 PM
I have always wanted to have one.
they have a "deluxe" at the local Sportsman's Warehouse so nice, but I'm sure that it is not full auto.
what an idiot I forgot to check or ask.
the mg ban does not apply up here at least not on SMGs or ARS.
for the life of me can't remember which model it was a copy of.
the salesman said it would accept all 50 round drums and the 20 boxers, it even came in an instrument case so cool.

Joe Demko
May 9, 2007, 06:42 PM
the mg ban does not apply up here at least not on SMGs or ARS.

Yes, it does. Full auto isn't banned, as such, at the federal level. The number of full autos available to the civilian market was frozen during the Reagan administration. That's the case in all 50. There may be no additional Alaskan laws pertaining to full auto, but you most assuredly are covered by federal restrictions.

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