Help me with my next purchase


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GhostlyKarliion
May 10, 2007, 12:56 PM
Ok, so I have decided that the next gun that I buy will be one of the above mentioned. I don't have any of them yet and want all of them equally.

Now, I am not reloading yet, however I am saving for a decent setup (a Dillon and set of dies and powder and brass and primers and bullets, I want to buy everything together) and will be purchasing brass and bullets for reloading so I am trying to keep that in mind on the ammo. (Getting something that I already have a caliber or bullet size for will reduce the number of different sizes of assorted components I have to buy.)

So I have narrowed it down to these, anyone with different suggestions please offer them, thanks.

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Titan6
May 10, 2007, 01:01 PM
What do you already have?

Omaney
May 10, 2007, 01:01 PM
Bulgarian AK is a very close 2nd

Val USP
May 10, 2007, 01:14 PM
Take AK you will not regret.

AugustusMcCrae
May 10, 2007, 01:17 PM
I voted AK. If I could afford it, I'd buy as many AK's as I could. I like to believe that for every EBR you own, you help keep America that much more free.

Nothing says "Freedom Forever" like an AK. Garand's are better at distance but the ammunition is more expensive therefore you might not be able to afford as much practice ammo.

Plus a Garand has only 8 shots to an AK's 30 or 40.

possum
May 10, 2007, 01:37 PM
i say the ak. dosen;t have to be the bulgarian but there are other choices too. i e yuge, mak's etc. i have an ak and i love it.

Emptymag
May 10, 2007, 01:45 PM
Garand.

You can hack your way thru a jungle of AK's before you run into a nice Garand at a show. The AK's aren't going anywhere. (Unless you vote for the people who want them banned) It's really up to you as we're just guessing what you're looking for in a rifle and mostly just telling you what WE want from the list.
Yeah, I want an AK too, but I want a piece of history more.

RNB65
May 10, 2007, 01:52 PM
If you can find a Garand in .30 Carbine I really want to hear about it.

:D

MrPeter
May 10, 2007, 01:56 PM
I've never fired a Garand, so I can't say how much fun they are.
I've never messed with a Garand, and I wouldn't, because they are so historically beautiful that most modifications would only hinder its beauty, unless you got one of those synthetic stock tacticool ones.
I own an AK, and don't mind it if I am a little rough with it, or do an amateur (gotta learn somehow) stock refinishing job, or don't clean it every single time I go shooting, or if I change something. It's a Romanian beater, and it works, and it always will work. That's the beauty of the AK in my eyes.

There is appeal to the older-ghetto-beater-modified fun car, as there is appeal to a stock 2007 nicer car.

Dunno if that analogy makes sense. In anycase, I can't vote. I don't have experience with all of those rifles.

thegriz
May 10, 2007, 02:06 PM
I love my ak's. I don't even like to take my nice rifles out anymore for fear of banging them up. I don't care how ugly or beat up my ak's get. They just keep on shooting.

Notch
May 10, 2007, 02:08 PM
Easy choice...

The Garand, or the K-31, or the Garand... They will offer you more at the range than the punny 7.62x39 round. You can still shoot close targets...50 to 100 yards, pluss you can toss em out there at the 2-300 yard targets with a great degree of accuracy. If'n ya want to have high cap fun then the AK would be cool, but I like the distance that the others offer. Then there is the quality, craftsmanship and history that the Garand and the K-31 have that the others can not even come CLOSE to. AKs will be available forever and are still being produced en-masse while K-31s and Garands are drying up.

peterotte
May 10, 2007, 02:13 PM
OK guys - what is the fascination with the AK? Forgive me for my opinion but I think they were put on earth to make ugly guns look pretty. Having put my foot in it - I had a mini-14 with scope and loved it. That's what I hunted with and I hardly ever missed. But I never fired a quick follow up shot with it. I should have kept it - it shot 1 1/2 '' groups at 100m but I did not want a semi-auto anymore.

crowsnest2002
May 10, 2007, 02:16 PM
I think he was talking about the tanker version garand. ?:)?

RNB65
May 10, 2007, 02:21 PM
OK guys - what is the fascination with the AK?

No fascination here. I hate AK's. Short, ugly, nasty things made for the uneducated masses. Don't own one and don't like shooting them. I'll take an SKS over an AK any day.

Silvanus
May 10, 2007, 02:25 PM
I voted Garand, but only because it's more versatile than an Ak (the only other option for me since I prefere semi-auto). You can shoot at longer ranges and more accurately with it. You could even hunt with that rifle since the caliber has plenty of power and like I said the accuracy is pretty good.

what is the fascination with the AK?

AK's are ultra reliable, combat accurate, effective caliber, easy (and fun) to shoot and maintain and IMO look very nice when in a good condition. Also the ammo is cheap and (used to be?) easy to find.

possum
May 10, 2007, 02:30 PM
OK guys - what is the fascination with the AK?
i have seen thier lethality first hand, so i know they work. plus another big thing for me is knowing the enemy and knowing his weapon systems allows for you to better understand them and thier capabilities. also foreign weapon familirization, if i ever have to use in in combat i would like to know how to use it, and have an idea of what it is capable of, and i do. i love the ak for one ammo at one time was relativly cheap which means alot of bang for the hard earned dollar.

they are awesome rifles, from cqb to 200 meters they do a fine job. i would rather have a 7.62x39 ak for cqb than an ar, but in general the ar would be my pick it is all METT-TC dependent.

the 7.62 is by far a better choice of ammo to use in close quarters than the 5.56 IMHO, and that would be my choice if it was up to me.

magazines are inexpensive and plentifull.

they are just a hoot to shoot for me and they are functional and have there place. just my .02

mpmarty
May 10, 2007, 02:40 PM
K31 will give you the most rifle for the money, most accurate, easy to reload for as you can use .284 Winchester brass and .308 bullets. Saves you enough over the only other "good" choice of the Garand to buy your Dillon and components. While I have three AK varients, I don't think they would satisfy you as well as the K31 or Garand and as an added bonus you don't have to chase your spent cases all over the county with a K31.

romma
May 10, 2007, 02:48 PM
I voted AK... I don't own one, but nothing else on the list of choices interests me more...

CrackerJim
May 10, 2007, 03:01 PM
I'll throw in the different suggestion:

See if you can find a swedish mauser in good condition. I believe it's a better firearm than the german mauser, fun to shoot but getting harder to find (ie prices going up).

I'm not sure on the Garand but the others are still plentiful so can always get them later. I have a K-31 which I do like but like the swede just as much if not a little more.

Good luck which ever way you go!

Jim

fast eddie
May 10, 2007, 03:49 PM
I'd go with the AK. I don't own one yet but I'd like to soon; partly to go along side my AR but also because if there is another ban it may not be possible to get one.

M110
May 10, 2007, 06:54 PM
I had a milled arsenal bulgy AK once...


Sold it, and upgraded to a Henry big boy :neener:


The bulgy was ok, but just wasnt my thing.


I voted the Garand, I have 4, and as soon as CMP gets more in I'll get another.

bamabluesman
May 10, 2007, 07:25 PM
everyone voting for the AK must not have fired an M1. Yeah you have more rounds, but its easy even for a beginner to make all 8 rounds go exactly where you want them with the Garand. Only rifle that I can plink small targets with at 200+ yards without a scope. Only ones on the list I have fired is the AK and the Garand and there is no comparison. Besides that it was the weapon used by the greatest generation this world has ever seen to make the world a better place for us. Then there's the cool pling sound when empty.

bamabluesman
May 10, 2007, 07:26 PM
everyone voting for the AK must not have fired an M1. Yeah you have more rounds, but its easy even for a beginner to make all 8 rounds go exactly where you want them with the Garand. Only rifle that I can plink small targets with at 200+ yards without a scope. Only ones on the list I have fired is the AK and the Garand and there is no comparison. Besides that it was the weapon used by the greatest generation this world has ever seen to make the world a better place for us. Then there's the cool pling sound when empty.

kingpin008
May 10, 2007, 07:34 PM
Keep in mind though, for some shooters the value also lies in the ability to shoot the gun. I'm all for history and collectibility, but I don't have the cash to own guns that I won't use and use hard.

Couple that with the fact that .30-06 is waay more expensive than 7.62 russian, and I think you have the answer.

And yes, I know you can always reload....but honestly, for some folks (me included) that's just not an option.

ripcurlksm
May 10, 2007, 07:35 PM
Besides that it was the weapon used by the greatest generation this world has ever seen to make the world a better place for us.

Very nice bamabluesman

AugustusMcCrae
May 10, 2007, 07:37 PM
everyone voting for the AK must not have fired an M1.

I admit that. I would love to try a Garand but they are too expensive for me.

They are opening a gunstore near me soon. You can see their website at www.triadgunsource.com . I can see that they rent handguns but I see no mention of renting out rifles.

I emailed the owner & he said that if all goes according to plan, they should be open in June of this year. I'll see if I can rent a Garand there then.

possum
May 10, 2007, 09:16 PM
everyone voting for the AK must not have fired an M1.
well you are wrong!

Bushwhacker
May 10, 2007, 09:29 PM
Look at the Springfield M1A-1a scout, just brought one and really like it, in fact my AR's are jealous now:evil:

arokcrwlr
May 10, 2007, 09:31 PM
Accurate, classic, piece of history. AK's will be around forever in one form or another.

eastwood44mag
May 10, 2007, 10:13 PM
AK or Mauser.......tough call

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