Got my deuce!


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MachIVshooter
May 13, 2007, 02:22 PM
OK, not a ma deuce, but really cool militaria nonetheless. I'm just really proud of this thing, especially after all the hassle to get it. Mod's please humor me, as I was sure to include a firearm in each pic;)

It is a 1966 Kaiser M35A2 6x6 "Deuce and a half" with Hercules LDT-465 Multifuel Turbocharged I-6 and PTO driven winch.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/Deuce.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/deucerear.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/deucecab.jpg

I've wanted one of these for a long, long time, but they're not exactly the easiest vehicle to come by. Once I got the coin, it still took months just to find a decent one. I ended up getting this one through Government Liquidation. Let's just say that winning the auction was the easy part. After that, you have to do an end use certificate. Once they approve that, you have 5 days to pay for the vehicle. Then you have 14 days to get it picked up. This one was at Robins AFB, about 80 miles S-E of Atlanta. So after waiting a month for the EUC to be approved, I paid for the vehicle and made hasty preparations for a really interesting trip. I figured the most sensible way to do it was a 1,500 mile burn down there on the bike and then to drive the deuce back with the bike in the bed. Total time alotted-5 days:eek: . Despite torrential rain and 50+ MPH winds From Hays, KS all the way to St. Louis, I made it 1,080 miles on the first day. The second day I went the other 400 miles and got a hotel in the town of Warner-Robins. Got up at 9 AM and got to the base. After a nearly 2-hour fiasco of trying to figure out what to do with my CCW (couldn't leave it with the bike), I finally got to the truck-only to find dead batteries and no brakes. With no way to carry over 100 lbs of batteries on a motorcycle, I caught a ride with one of the contracted workers there. Got batteries, brake fluid and some tools in town and made it back to the base at 2 PM. That left me one hour to get the thing started, get the brakes working and load the bike. The lord was smiling on me, as the brakes bled easily, the vehicle started almost instantly and everything but the lights was working. Got my weapons back from the armory and headed over to the NAPA in town to figure out why I had no lights and make the other preparations for the long trip home. God love the guys at NAPA, they helped me screw with this thing for over 2 hours. Finally got lights working and all fluids full by 7 PM, then started the long haul home. After 2 full days (as in 39 hours actual drive time, not counting fuel and food stops and the little sleep I got) on the Interstates at 48 MPH and shaking like you wouldn't believe, I rolled into my driveway.

Despite having no plates and sticking out like a sore thumb, I only got lit up once just outside of Salina, KS. The officer was much less concerned with my lack of registration than he was with verifying that my vehicle was NOT the one reported stolen out of Missouri:uhoh:. At this point I was very happy that Kansas had finally got CCW and had reciprocity with CO, though, as i had no problems regarding my weapons. After 1/2 hour of checking ID's and talking to dispatch, he cut me loose.

Perhaps the funniest thing is that the ride is so rough and so noisy, I actually had a hitchhiker I picked up (trying to get to Denver) decide to get out after less than 200 miles. :p

Surprisingly, this 7+ ton behemoth actually averaged 9.96 MPG over the entire trip. I expect in-town economy to be lower, but I was pleasantly surprised. Again, it is a multi-fuel engine (Diesel, Gas, Kerosene, Jet fuel, Heating oil, etc.) but runs best on diesel.

Anyway, I feel after this that I have earned the vehicle and the right to brag about it. I also must thank the angel that was on my shoulder for a 23 year old bike to go that far down and a 42 year old truck to make it back, and for me to be in good health and uninjured (though very tired and sore).

It will be a memory to last a lifetime, and I thought I would share it with fellow THR members.

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Biker
May 13, 2007, 02:26 PM
Now if that ain't cool as hell! Congrats, man!

Biker

SigfanUSAF
May 13, 2007, 02:37 PM
Awesome, now all you need is a couple of old cop cars and you can duplicate the roadblock scene in First Blood:D

I actually like your story better than the truck! Took some gonads to decide to drive it back sight unseen, I'm impressed.

Leanwolf
May 13, 2007, 02:44 PM
Speak about four-by-four and a good winch, I believe that would make a great elk hunting truck for your Colorado mountains!! :)

L.W.

MachIVshooter
May 13, 2007, 02:49 PM
Speak about four-by-four and a good winch, I believe that would make a great elk hunting truck for your Colorado mountains!!

Except for the 80 foot turning radus and completely manual steering. You really have to strongarm this thing in rough terrrain, as going into ruts and the like will yank the wheel right out of your hands.

So what do ya'll think of mounting a semi-auto M1919 in the bed, just behind the cab? :D (or perhaps a semi-auto M2HB, if I can scrape up another $6k)

lionking
May 13, 2007, 02:49 PM
Burt Gummer would be proud:cool:

driving it to a shooting session would just make that day oh so much more fun.About the only thing that would beat that is flying a UH-1 out to no where and doing a shooting session.

Ala Dan
May 13, 2007, 02:49 PM
now your're really

Tacticool

Deer Hunter
May 13, 2007, 02:51 PM
Boys and their toys. Great vehicle! I'm jealous. I love my little Honda, but it can't hold a candle to that thing.

Leanwolf
May 13, 2007, 02:53 PM
MACHIVSHOOTER - "So what do ya'll think of mounting a semi-auto M1919 in the bed, just behind the cab? (or perhaps a semi-auto M2HB, if I can scrape up another $6k)"

I like that!! Oughta be able to gun a whole herd of elk with that. Really lay in some meat for winter!! :D

As for the other part, rough steering, etc., ahhhh, mere details! ;)

Have fun.

L.W.

slewfoot
May 13, 2007, 02:57 PM
God, I had fun in one of those things while in the Army. We used to fight each other on who would drive in training convoys. It was another story once we got to Viet Nam.

Congratulations, I hope you enjoy your new off roader.

Stickjockey
May 13, 2007, 03:03 PM
Sweet! The M-35's are a bit uncommon, IIRC.

tincat2
May 13, 2007, 03:13 PM
What a great treasure retrieval adventure-nothing but envy here. Good Luck.

grimjaw
May 13, 2007, 03:15 PM
Now you need a picture of you and all your buddies holding rifles in the back, ready to deploy.

Congrats, nice rig.

jm

sacp81170a
May 13, 2007, 03:25 PM
Beats the soup out of a tactical wheelbarrow! :evil: :D :D

whitetiger7654
May 13, 2007, 04:11 PM
I would drive it everywhere. Grocery store, school, work, fancy restaurants, etc. I would have so much fun.

RocketMan
May 13, 2007, 05:00 PM
If I were still living in El Paso County, I'd drive over there and drool on your new toy. :p

never_retreat
May 13, 2007, 05:08 PM
Now thats its a little closer to my house. What do you want for it?:)

alucard0822
May 13, 2007, 05:24 PM
and to think of all the people who go on a cross country trip and only have pictures to show for it, you my friend have a 7 ton souvenier:)

Awesome rig, cool story, I am truly jealous:D

MrTwigg
May 13, 2007, 05:39 PM
Man I just about learned to drive on one of those (NMCB-40) back in the 70's !

Great story & a nice adventure to boot !

SoCalShooter
May 13, 2007, 05:43 PM
I want a ride!!!

cheygriz
May 13, 2007, 06:16 PM
Now ya need a "quad 50" to mount on it!:evil:

LeonCarr
May 13, 2007, 06:23 PM
I would probably pay money to watch one of those valet parking guys park that thing at a fancy restaurant :).

When I saw the first picture, the first thing to come to mind was the Drive-In Theatre scene from the movie RED DAWN when they drove the deuce and a half through the chain link fence :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

MachIVshooter
May 13, 2007, 06:33 PM
Now ya need a "quad 50" to mount on it!

Not yet ready to do a third mortgage!;)

I would probably pay money to watch one of those valet parking guys park that thing at a fancy restaurant

I've been thinking about driving to the Big-O tire store in town and asking for a rotate & balance. I'll have to bring a camera to capture that poor tire buster's face when he steps outside!
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beaucoup ammo
May 13, 2007, 06:48 PM
Drive up to Sonic and order everything on the menu! Congrats on a great accomplishment! I'm sure it didn't come easy.

Keep her running good...that baby's a keeper if ever there was one!

Davo
May 13, 2007, 06:52 PM
Hella cool.

El Tejon
May 13, 2007, 06:54 PM
Very cool.:cool:

I've always wanted an armoured car. Some day.:)

4v50 Gary
May 13, 2007, 07:00 PM
Ragtop. Too bad you didn't get one with a turret ring for a .50 on top. Now that would have really been neat. Nonetheless, Congratulations! :)

redneck2
May 13, 2007, 07:02 PM
OK, so this is WAY past cool.

Every real man should know how to use a pipe wrench, a chain saw, and a shotgun. You've just raised the bar.

Maybe the best part is the PTO winch. Land of no return. Shift that sucker in and let 'er rip.

:evil:

I always thought an M715 would be cool. Makes that look like a toy.

Lucky
May 13, 2007, 07:02 PM
So what do ya'll think of mounting a semi-auto M1919 in the bed, just behind the cab? (or perhaps a semi-auto M2HB, if I can scrape up another $6k)

http://www.anzioironworks.com/20mmpedestalproto.jpg

Plan B: http://www.vectorarms.com/photos/RPD_11_05%20WEB.gif
http://www.vectorarms.com/guns/RPD.htm

TallPine
May 13, 2007, 07:04 PM
Except for the 80 foot turning radus and completely manual steering. You really have to strongarm this thing in rough terrrain, as going into ruts and the like will yank the wheel right out of your hands.

Keep your thumbs outside the steering wheel (or else the spokes will take them off :uhoh: )

OTOH, you don't have to worry about small trees and such - just drive over them and make your own road :D

Congratulations! We have 2 6x6 trucks at our local wildland VFD. One is a 1970 that looks very similar to yours, but it has a Mercedes I-6 diesel and a 5-speed. Weird shift pattern - 4th and 5th gears are opposite of where they would normally be. That one is a neat truck, lots of power and double-clutches nicely.

The other is a 1953 with a gasoline I-6 and automatic transmission. Very noisy and slow, but can crawl up virtually any hill.

zero_chances
May 13, 2007, 07:09 PM
Incredible machine!!

Now all you need to do is pick up a few of these weapon simulators and go cruising through town. These things look real and use propane and oxygen to make loud noises and fire. They have 1917's, 1919's, ak's, and mg42's.

http://www.intlrepo-depo.com/simulators_1.htm

MachIVshooter
May 13, 2007, 07:52 PM
Ragtop. Too bad you didn't get one with a turret ring for a .50 on top. Now that would have really been neat. Nonetheless, Congratulations!

There was one with the turret ring about 17 miles from me, but the owner wouldn't let it go-not even when I offered him $8K CASH. That one did not have a winch, though. I had to have the winch. I'll likely try to find a ring later.

bogie
May 13, 2007, 08:27 PM
I agree - KEEP THE THUMBS ON TOP. If you hit a bump or a rut, that sucker will spin stronger than the bones...

How you gonna paint it?

BTW, I just bought a BUNCHA vinyl printing/sign stuff...

And you drove within a half-mile of my house (Wentzville, MO) without letting me admire it?

aguyindallas
May 13, 2007, 09:17 PM
I have a couple questions...

First of all, what do you have in this investment?

Second, seriously, what will you use it for? I think it would be cool to own, but storage for me would not be even close to realistic and once I were to get one I feel like I would be staring at it thinking "ok cool...now what?"

bogie
May 13, 2007, 09:27 PM
Idea... If you can park it visibly, put a big banner on the side that says "US Out of Colorado!"

Brian Williams
May 13, 2007, 09:27 PM
I want one of them $10 jeeps...


Nice deuce.

Glockfan.45
May 13, 2007, 09:31 PM
I've wanted one of these for a long, long time, but they're not exactly the easiest vehicle to come by.

eBay motors has 4 or 5 listed for sale at any given time. There is a guy who has a Unimog, with the canvas top, and stake bed for sale down the road from me. I would love to have that for summer time top down fun. Too bad the wife said no, and its a little too big to hide in the safe.

edit to add: heres the ultimate vehicle for that impending zombie attack http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DRAGOON-PATROLLER-II-LIGHT-ARMORED-VEHICLE_W0QQitemZ290113834986QQihZ019QQcategoryZ80765QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem .

MachIVshooter
May 13, 2007, 09:35 PM
I have a couple questions...

First of all, what do you have in this investment?

Truck was $5,300 after tax, batteries and brake fluid ran $400 and the trip (fuel, food, lodging) ran about $850. So about $6,500 now. Still need a new master cylinder (~$100) and an air-shift transfer case ($800) before she's 100%. The current transfer case is the automatic type, and the sprag gears for forward 6x6 were damaged from the linkage being bound up on account of rust.

Second, seriously, what will you use it for? I think it would be cool to own, but storage for me would not be even close to realistic and once I were to get one I feel like I would be staring at it thinking "ok cool...now what?"

1: snow plow (got a line on a 5'x10' V-plow for $1,500)

2: hauling WHATEVER I need to; I have overloaded my half-ton trucks so many times it isn't funny. These things have a 5,000 pound payload cross country and 10,000 pounds on roads.

3: Big toy :D

Storage is not a problem on 7 acres, and finding places to park in town are simply a matter of willingness to walk a bit further.

CWhitt
May 13, 2007, 10:04 PM
I used the frame and axles off on one of those to build my swamp buggy. I cut the rear axle off, and removed the body. Mine was a '52, if I recall, and had a water tank/pump on the back when I got it.

The Deer Hunter
May 13, 2007, 10:22 PM
so, uh, hows the fuel economy?

Hutch
May 13, 2007, 10:48 PM
I saw one of those (a 6x6, manu. uknown) that at least LOOKED pretty good, at the Knob Creek shoot in April, 01. It was mighty tempting, but two things really put a stick in my spokes.
1) The load height was very high. I'm trying to imagine loading up a tiller, or other really heavy bit of kit up to about shoulder high. Ouch.
2) The Director of Operations aka, She Who Must be Obeyed would likely have fired me on the spot, upon my return.

It would have been way cool, all but the loss of a wife.

Edit to ask: Diesel or gasoline??? I can imagine a diesel (compression ignition) running on Jet-A or kerosene or some such, but gasoline? I would have guessed it would require spark plugs. On you 10mpg, what did you fuel it with? What's the fuel capacity?

jerkyman45
May 13, 2007, 11:03 PM
I wonder if you can put an air ride seat in that cab, if you can you would be a lot more comfortable and it would take a lot of the roughness out of your ride. Mount the M2HB on that rig, and you will never get cut off again.

Rem700SD
May 13, 2007, 11:12 PM
Congrats on the purchase/adventure! Please give us a review on how it works out. I've always dreamed of owning one of those and using it as a farm truck.

Neo-Luddite
May 13, 2007, 11:27 PM
That's mighty fine. I remember riding in the back of one not long ago. The joke in the Illinois NG (late 80's/early 90's) was that you NEVER wanted to get your deuce license--or you would drive gear and troops EVERY drill.


The irony and comparative to our current situation pales of course, but nonetheless--it was a good day when the local fire dept would come by as a treat and help us was the deuces if they got muddy (they did--they were right by the armory in Homewood on 187th street). Otherwise we scrubbed them with regular brooms and soap.

Many of those '10 dollar' jeeps and other toys are still around. You'll love that Deuce---thank G-d they didn't have to de-mil it prior to delivery (as they do with the --sniff-- post '66 model jeeps:( ).

LoveMyCountry
May 13, 2007, 11:31 PM
Have fun with it. Take it down to the local courthouse and driver around and around, reving the engine. Be sure to wear your camo's. :evil:

You could always try parallel parking it on a busy street. Talk about strong-arm steering! Those rigs are always in demand for parades and the kids (and a lot of adults) love riding in them.

I drove those in the Guard for years. Always felt like a badass in it. A very slow badass, but a badass none the less. :cool:

LoveMyCountry

hso
May 14, 2007, 12:15 AM
Very very cool vehicle, but a better topic for ArmedPoliteSociety than here due to it being a vehicle post instead of a firearm-related post.

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