S&W 10-7 parts interchangeable?


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SgtRage
May 13, 2007, 11:18 PM
Looks like I need a new yoke (crane) for my 10-7, someone has "Dick Tracy" shut it a lot. Numrich has the same item # for that part for the 10, 10-9, and 10-10. Would that be the right one?

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GRIZ22
May 13, 2007, 11:28 PM
I'd call them and ask.

PzGren
May 14, 2007, 07:17 AM
Often they can be bent back into shape. Brownell's sells a little nylon wedge to bend it, I believe. A wooden wedge might do the trick, too.
You just have to figure out which way and how much it is bent the wrong way and correct it carefully.

GRIZ22
May 14, 2007, 10:48 AM
A armorer I knew who had a jig for straightening k and j frames (one for each) don't know if these were factory items or he made them himself.

SgtRage
May 14, 2007, 06:44 PM
Thanks guys. I did manage to bend it back myself by hand. Unfortunately, now I also have to replace the hand and fit the new one. This was a prison guards gun, and I think he just sat around slamming it shut all day. :(

SgtRage
May 14, 2007, 06:48 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/SgtRage/guns/SW10.jpg

Marked NWCC on the backstrap.

PzGren
May 15, 2007, 07:54 AM
I got a hand for a S&W 629-2 from S&W to replace a faulty floating hand. Fitting is easy. One of the pins has to be shortened and you have to keep in mind that the hand times on the side, on on top like Colt.

How is your extractor star looking? Is it also worn? I got a S&W parts kit from J&G Sales for $99. It's a 2" Model 10 with all parts but the frame. Mine was in very good condition and well worth the money to fill up my parts box.

Old Fuff
May 15, 2007, 10:54 AM
Smith & Wesson yokes and extractors were (and likely still are) individually fitted to a particular revolver. One taken from another gun may, or may not fit. In the case of a yoke it may be made to fit, but then require refinishing. For this reason it's best to stay with the one that originally came in the revolver if possible. An extractor star is reamed with the chambers, which is the reason one from another revolver may not be a perfect fit.

SgtRage did not specify what his problem with the hand is, but often a carry-up problem (failure of the cylinder to revolve far enough to reach the next chamber) can be corrected without replacing any parts.

Rather then buy a lot of parts that might, or might not work, I would suggest that it might be better to return the revolver to Smith & Wesson for a tune-up. Whatever the problems are, they will be corrected - any any parts that have to be replaced will be the right ones.

PzGren
May 15, 2007, 12:40 PM
If you have questions about how to fix your timing, carry up, peen your ratchets of the extractor star, etc. Smith-wesson forum has a gunsmithing section with two* very capable guys that are very willing to share their knowledge with you.

*edited
more than two but two are in that part of the forum all the time and answer quickly

armoredman
May 15, 2007, 01:55 PM
Yep, every so often I do see atrocious firearm handling among my staff, and correct them every time I can. Prisons do not lend themselves to good sidearm maintenance, as, unlike PDs, the sidearm is not assigned to the officer, but the post, (Main Control, Perimeter, Tower, etc), and every 8 hours needs to be unloaded to be passed to the relieving staff. The you get someone who likes to "do like the movies", and flip it shut after reloading, 3 times a day, every day, for years, and years. Especially if the same staff members are assigned to that post, year after year.

SgtRage
May 16, 2007, 12:49 PM
Extractor star looks very good, as do the cylinder stop and notches

Old Fuff, you're right on the money, it's a carry-up issue. It's not going quite far enough for the cylinder stop to lock, by a hair. I've actually got a friendly gunsmith here who's helping me with it, he's worked on Smiths for years. He suggested replacing the hand, warning me that it would require fitting, most likely for length. I do have experience with detail stripping S&W revolvers and doing fitting, just never done this particular job before.

Also, I have gotten the revolver at least thirdhand, so I'm not sure if the warranty still applies, and I'm not able to put much money into it at the moment. So, doing it myself seems like the way to go.

Besides, I like learning to do it myself. ;)

SgtRage
May 16, 2007, 12:50 PM
BTW, not trying to disparage anyone's profession.

Old Fuff
May 16, 2007, 03:06 PM
S&W revolver carry-up problems are more often caused by the hand's width, rather then length, or wear in the window it works through. That presumes that the condition isn't cause by the original fitting of the hand to ratchet tooth, or somebody trying to "improve" the action that didn't know what they were doing. A mis-aligned yoke barrel can also contribute to the situation.

If you send the gun to S&W they will pay for the shipping both ways. If they determine that any condition was cused by, or related to, their original work they'll fix it for free, regardless of how may owners have owned the gun. If they need to charge for non-warrantee work they will contact you with an estimate, and not do any work until you O.K. it. If you say, "no" they will return the gun in the same condition they received it.

You can't go wrong. :)

PzGren
May 16, 2007, 04:36 PM
Gotta agree with Old Fuff on S&W warranty, it's good. It is also kind of a no tell, no ask policy. I have used it many times but believe that if you can figure it out yourself, it is so much more satisfying.

I had a S&W certified police armourer - and top notch PPC shooter - walk me through my beginnings.

There is a lot to learn, sending it off fixes the gun but will it widen your horizon? Make you "one" with the gun:D ?

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