Teen Hurt Whacking Bullets With Hammer


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Bruce333
May 14, 2007, 07:04 PM
Didn't find this one posted yet:

http://www.wral.com/news/strange/story/1413503/


LAKE LUZERNE, N.Y. — A teenager who put bullets in a vise and whacked them with a hammer to empty the brass shell casings was wounded in the abdomen by approximately the 100th bullet he hit, according to Warren County deputies.

Damion M. Mosher, 18, had been discharging .223-caliber rounds, placing them in a steel vise, putting a screwdriver on the primer, and striking the screwdriver with the hammer, deputies said.

Deputies were called to his home in Lake Luzerne shortly after 5 p.m. Saturday when one bullet went about a half-inch into his abdomen. He was treated at Glens Falls Hospital and was released. No charges were filed.

Mosher told authorities he was trying to empty the rounds to collect the brass casings for scrap.

Sheriff Larry Cleveland said about 100 other rounds that Mosher hit had "fizzled," but one was somehow sent with more force. It was unclear if the bullet ricocheted or hit him directly.

An employee of Capitol Scrap Co. in Albany said Monday the business pays $1.70 a pound for scrap brass shell casings.

Cleveland said Mosher's shells amounted to just a few pounds.

Lake Luzerne, at the southeastern edge of the Adirondacks, is 45 miles north of Albany.
I guess he never heard of a bullet puller...

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SoCalShooter
May 14, 2007, 07:13 PM
Why the hell would he be doing that? Its a lot safer and easier just to shoot the stuff if you want the brass. Stupid kids. Seriously by a 15 dollar bullet puller and di it that way.

oweno
May 14, 2007, 07:15 PM
My Uncle Billy did this very thing when a boy (around 1900). He literally put out his eye which was a godsend for generations of mothers in Chicopee Falls who used him as an example as to what would happen if you did anything dangerous. "You know why Billy Murphy has that glass eye? Stop doing <fill-in-blank>.

Billy was, btw, a cousin not an uncle but in those days children addressed elder cousins as 'aunt' and 'uncle'.

When I was 12 or so, Uncle Billy showed up at Christmas with a single-shot
.22 for me and he, at once, zoomed to the top of my list of favorite relatives. He worked at Stevens Arms and I'll bet he got a 'good deal' on that rifle.

Mr White
May 14, 2007, 07:16 PM
Damion Mosher, you're still alive and therefore are disqualified from receiving your Darwin Award, but, as a consolation prize...

Here's your sign.

ArfinGreebly
May 14, 2007, 07:20 PM
:D

Indeed.

:D

budney
May 14, 2007, 07:23 PM
My thesis advisor (a certified genius) grew up in Poland after WWII, and there kids could find oodles of unexploded ordnance in the woods. They actually had safety lectures to warn kids not to play with that stuff, and a common way for kids to kill themselves was to try and remove the shells from their casings.

My advisor responded to the lecture by going out and finding a mortar shell, putting it in the stove, and blowing up the family's kitchen. He was five at the time.

--Len.

TallPine
May 14, 2007, 07:30 PM
We need to regulate screwdrivers and hammers ... :rolleyes:

Geno
May 14, 2007, 07:31 PM
Do the math with me...

1) Endanger one's life 100 times to sell for scrap and net approximately $3.00 to $5.00?!

2) Post them for sale at THR for $40.00 + shipping?!

The net for life endangerment...a reduction of $35.00 to $37.00! Am I wrong in my thinking? Obviously the gentleman will never earn an M.B.A. :neener:

Doc2005

M249MachineGun
May 14, 2007, 07:34 PM
What a terrible waste of ammo.

Dixie_Amazon
May 14, 2007, 07:40 PM
A teenager who put bullets in a vise and whacked them with a hammer to empty the brass shell casings was wounded in the abdomen by approximately the 100th bullet he hit, according to Warren County deputies.
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You there... out of the gene pool!

Bazooka Joe71
May 14, 2007, 07:45 PM
Wow.

You there... out of the gene pool!

+1,000,000

Someone definately needs to keep this genius from reproducing.

Zen21Tao
May 14, 2007, 07:50 PM
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DoubleTapDrew
May 14, 2007, 07:52 PM
Someone should tell him the correct way to do that. Instead of using a vice just hold the rounds between your legs. Might make the gene pool a little cleaner.

Warren
May 14, 2007, 07:54 PM
What are the odds he stole the ammo?

Flintlock Tom
May 14, 2007, 07:56 PM
If he has .45 ACP, I'll pay $2.00 a pound! If he has 7.35 Carcano I'll pay $10.00 a pound!

All those poor, homeless cases being melted down, Oh, the humanity!

jpk1md
May 14, 2007, 07:58 PM
Darwin Awards Candidate for sure!

darwinawards.com/personal/personal2007-02.html

Bucket of Dynamite

An unnamed patient at the local clinic told my neighbor that he had serious internal injuries, including a ruptured eyeball, total hearing loss in one ear, and both legs amputated mid-thigh, as the result of a fishing accident. Also the man damaged both gonads, qualifying him for the Darwin Award.

He had been standing at the end of a dock with a bucket of dynamite, 2-inch chunks each fused and capped. He lit the fuse, cocked his arm for the throw, and dropped that chunk of dynamite into the bucket of dynamite.

Instantly recognizing the serious situation he was in, the man dove off the dock. But water is incompressible. It transferred the force of the explosion, in line with the blast, against his body.

One doctor was heard to remark that it was good that this patient had lost his balls, as it removed him from the gene pool.

eliphalet
May 14, 2007, 08:24 PM
Another reason to have gun safety classes mandatory in every school in America.
Hundreds of millions of guns, billions upon billions of ammo rounds. Sooner or later every boy is going to come in contact with one or both.

Whatsit
May 14, 2007, 08:25 PM
:(

bensdad
May 14, 2007, 08:34 PM
Two duck hunters on or near Lake Michigan needed a honey hole (winter), so one of them threw a stick of dynamite out where they wanted it. Lab retriever fetches the dynamite. Other guy, recognizing the pending doom, shoots the dog... twice. Tough to kill a lab with birdshot, dog limps under their brand new Suburban. Dog dead. Suburban sunk. Insurance? no way. The article I read said that the owner was still making payments on a blown-up truck two years later. Don't know if it's true. When I read it I giggled (sad about the dog though).

gunsmith
May 14, 2007, 08:36 PM
I can not find the old thread though, the same thing happened a year or so ago.

Why would you buy ammo to destroy it and sell to a scrap dealer?
why not sell it to a gun owner for more or just use it?

tasco 74
May 14, 2007, 08:37 PM
heck i've been whackin hundreds of .22 rimfire cartrages with a rubber hammer to use my paco tool hollow pointer accurizer....... if you've never heard of one it's a tool that does work to make .22 rimfires more accurate and it puts a nice deep hollow point in so they expand much better in game... if you need to find your own PACO TOOL go to rimfire central and do a search.... doc 2005......sorry but i'm almost computer illiterate.........

DoubleTapDrew
May 14, 2007, 08:46 PM
That Darwin site is pretty funny. Apparently this kid isn't the only person to get into the scrap metal game by disassembling ammo...

(August 2006, Brazil) August brings us a winner from Brazil, who tried to disassemble a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) by driving back and forth over it with a car. This technique was ineffective, so he escalated to pounding the RPG with a sledgehammer. The second try worked--in a sense. The explosion proved fatal to one man, six cars, and the repair shop wherein the efforts took place.
14 more RPG grenades were found in a car parked nearby. Police believe the ammunition was being scavenged to sell as scrap metal. If it wasn't scrap then, it certainly is now!

heron
May 14, 2007, 10:37 PM
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Another reason to have gun safety classes mandatory in every school in America.
Hundreds of millions of guns, billions upon billions of ammo rounds. Sooner or later every boy is going to come in contact with one or both.

I've been saying this for years.

The Deer Hunter
May 14, 2007, 10:41 PM
No charges were filed?

Who would they be filed against? The moron kid for self endangerment?

telomerase
May 14, 2007, 10:47 PM
Another reason to have gun safety classes mandatory in every school in America.

Whoa there, cowboy. The schools have reached the point where millions of Americans can't read, make change, or speak in grammatical English. Now you want to let it get to the point where millions of Americans can't shoot?

never_retreat
May 14, 2007, 10:52 PM
I think this is verry fitting
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.cheese.
May 14, 2007, 11:33 PM
This is why the way I remove bullets when I want the bullet and not the shell casing (for bullet keychains) is to cut into the brass first so that if there is ignition, the gases are vented.

It takes MUCH longer (double the time), but it is IMO much safer. I pull the bullet after I've emptied all of the powder so it's safe, and then I use a shell casing from the range, remove the primer, and put it together to make the keychain.

ETA: I clean it too to make sure there's no possible left over powder. Maybe I'm a little paranoid when dealing with ammo, but it's easy to get yourself hurt if you're not careful. It's even easier if you're stupid.

351 WINCHESTER
May 14, 2007, 11:40 PM
The problem arises from kids lack of knowledge, curiousity. Kid's and some adults do stupid things. When I was 15 I had a .243. I pulled the bullet, dumped the powder and proceeded to heat the shell with a mini torch. I placed the shell on top of a tin can lid which was on my desk. Kaboom. The shell stuck in the ceiling and the primer went thru 1" of pine and lodged in a drawer.

Last year my 15 year old son get curious just like his old man and takes a 12ga. shotgun shell apart. He was hitting the primer with a screwdriver when the primer blew. My wife had to take him to the e.r. to dig the primer and other stuff out of his hand. Thank God it wasn't his eye. Lesson learned.

I know a gunsmith (he's in his 70's). He had some old blackpowder ctgs. that were tarnished. He chucked one in his lathe and commenced polishing. In no time the shell got hot and he got a big surprise. I have a lot of respect for blackpowder, so much, in fact, that I don't use it anymore.

I was in my local gunshop several years back working on a nylon 66 that was jamming. I noticed an older guy buy a browning hp and 2 boxes of shells. He proceeds to load the mag. Then he inserts it into the pistol, racks the slide and lowers the hammer on a live round. Kaboom. The bullet just missed a good friend behind the counter. It got my attention and a lot of other peoples too.

Cesiumsponge
May 14, 2007, 11:49 PM
Well the article appears to state his intentions were to sell the brass to a recycler. Selling something for scrap metal prices which is otherwise has more worth and worth more before he went and fired all that stuff he had no intention of using...sounds like something a meth head would do. Do they start that young nowadays?

ConfuseUs
May 15, 2007, 12:34 AM
1) Dumb kid should have made scrap brass the fun'n smart way instead of the stupid'n painful way. The State of New York needs to add "proper use of a tool to expedite bullet removal from shell casings", otherwise known as "rifle shooting" to its school curriculum

2) Dumb kid should have scrounged at the range for brass instead of slaving away at popping off rounds one at a time in a vise.

3) If this kid was dumb enough to purchase a box of ammo to make scrap brass to sell, the State of New York may want to sharply tighten standards in the public schools. :scrutiny:

4) Oooh, imagine the irony of it all if he was trying to make money TO BUY A RIFLE.:D

.cheese.
May 15, 2007, 12:39 AM
DoubleTapDrew posted:
That Darwin site is pretty funny. Apparently this kid isn't the only person to get into the scrap metal game by disassembling ammo...

(August 2006, Brazil) August brings us a winner from Brazil, who tried to disassemble a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) by driving back and forth over it with a car. This technique was ineffective, so he escalated to pounding the RPG with a sledgehammer. The second try worked--in a sense. The explosion proved fatal to one man, six cars, and the repair shop wherein the efforts took place.
14 more RPG grenades were found in a car parked nearby. Police believe the ammunition was being scavenged to sell as scrap metal. If it wasn't scrap then, it certainly is now!

ROTFLMAO!

That's terrible.... but somehow oddly hilarious. Thankfully I wasn't drinking anything just now or else I'd be cleaning.

obxned
May 15, 2007, 03:01 AM
Just how closely related are his parents?????

JLStorm
May 15, 2007, 03:38 AM
911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer


LMFAO!!!!:D :D :D

helpless
May 15, 2007, 05:31 AM
Evolution

230RN
May 15, 2007, 06:00 AM
Hey, Economist. Your post #27.

Use a bullet puller. I don't know how you're "cutting into the case," but heat must be generated no matter how you do it.

I paid $19.00 for mine. I know you can get them cheaper.

Even pulling cemented, crimped, cannelured steel-jacketed bullets out of steel cases takes only three moderate blows.

I prefer the ones with the collets rather than the v-slotted case holder. Mine is a "Preferred Bullet Puller" (that's the actual name) from Berry's Manufacturing in St. George UT.

But, like coffee, any bullet puller (coffee) is better than no bullet puller (coffee).

Plink
May 15, 2007, 06:20 AM
I don't see how whacking the bullet could cause problems, well, unless he accidentally whacked the case while he was at it. But then again, we have folks who still insist that they load their guns with bullets, rather than cartridges, so what do I know.

I do feel sorry for the kid, but just like the kid who shot himself in the face with a frog from his potato gun years back, I don't feel sorry enough. Stupidity is it's own punishment.

Autolycus
May 15, 2007, 06:51 AM
In situations like this I think to myself...

WWJD?

Michael Courtney
May 15, 2007, 09:04 AM
Another reason to have gun safety classes mandatory in every school in America.
Whoa there, cowboy. The schools have reached the point where millions of Americans can't read, make change, or speak in grammatical English. Now you want to let it get to the point where millions of Americans can't shoot?

Brilliant! This one had me laughing out loud. And I'm a teacher.

Michael Courtney

MilsurpShooter
May 15, 2007, 09:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1xqrdtJs8w

1 minute 55 seconds in and I'll just walk away now lol

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