Unidentified Scope


May 14, 2007, 11:56 PM
Howdy, Folks. My Uncle, a former Marine know's I'm a gun junkie. I was talking to him about 3 weeks ago about how when I get back from Iraq, I intend on buying a SOCOM II, and a few other weapons. He decided to send me an early birthday present (my 3rd year mark as a Marine is coming up in June). It was a sweet scope. He said it was in his garage and he'd never used it. He said he bought it when "Christ was a Corporal" but it looks pretty new and he only did 4 years in the Corps (got out about 5 years ago or so). Anywho, it has no manufacturer name on it, or anything to identify it. The only mark it has is Butler Creek marks. I googled butler creek, the closest it comes to being a scope is a scope cover. To help you identify it, it also has an interesting image when you look through it. The fat end is where your eye goes. The image you see is - - -o- - -. In that little 'o' is an upside down 'v'. In the bottom left hand corner has a slight slope with little - with numbers going in sequental orders below the -'s at an upward slope

Here's a picture of it.


What is it? What range should it be used for? Is it as cool as it looks?

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May 15, 2007, 01:00 AM
Interesting. It's obviously a fixed power, low magnification scope. The reticle you describe, with the inverted "V" and range estimating marks sounds... like almost every Warsaw pact optic. Since it's a rail mount and not an AR carry handle mount, it can't be that old.

It might be perfectly good, or it might not. Clamp it on a rifle, go shoot for a while, and see if it keeps it's zero. Looks like the integral mount is the potential weak point, and if it's not solid then there's not a whole lot to be done, besides trying increasingly strong flavors of loc-tite.

May 15, 2007, 01:04 AM
Eeek. I can't mount it on a rifle yet because I don't have a rifle to mount it on.

May 15, 2007, 01:09 AM
Heheh, that's a problem that dosen't necessarily go away even if you have a lot of rifles and a lot of optics floating around. Think of it as a shopping opportunity.;)

May 15, 2007, 03:36 AM
logan, I was thinking the same thing. they use th 0 as a base size , for something to fit in, as a specific distance marker, such as 100 yards, a dude will fit in that 0. the slope then , is your range finder, to tell how far away, the object is , then you adjust accordingly.

May 15, 2007, 08:08 AM

Sounds Soviet. This site has several that are similar to your description.

May 15, 2007, 08:34 AM

Reticle resemble that? By the reticle it sounds Russian. I did some searching, closest thing I can find is http://www.eastwave.ca/products/scopes/posp8x42m6d.html

Looks like and sounds like a Russian style, however I'm having no luck finding any type of rail mounted scopes that resemble that one. Also the lack of markings is interesting, are you sure there are none on it? Russians were usually compulsive about marking things so the only way I can think of it not having them would be for the markings to have all been on a side mount rail and lost when the scope was made to that mounting style.

Just speculation on my part. Hope someone can come along and answer, hate not knowing what stuff is

May 15, 2007, 09:05 AM
Buy your uncle a beer if he did indeed send you a free US Optics SN-12:


The only problem is, US Optics wasn't founded until 1990...

Why don't you pull the lens cover off and see if there are any markings written on the eyepiece?

May 15, 2007, 11:53 AM
That does look like the SN12.

I wonder if iit is a pre-production model that was tested.
It does look like it has scope covers and if you remove em, the markings may be there. BTW, Butler Creek was started in my home town of Belgrade MT near... butler creek hehe. They made accessories like scope covers :)

Also, if the uncle got out of the marines 5 years ago, then this puts it into the window of this being made, so I am guessing we have a winner! Also, I am Jealous as heck.

I looked up the price and new, these puppies are $895 and up, so now, I'm REALLY jealous. Grats

May 15, 2007, 11:58 AM
He graduated boot camp in 1994. And I think that's the scope.

50 Shooter
May 15, 2007, 12:19 PM
Contact US Optics, they're right here in SoCal. Email them the pic and if it's one of theirs they'll let you know.

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