Is this German revolver decent?


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bartsimpson123844
May 17, 2007, 09:48 PM
Well, I was browsing a local gun shop and I found an odd revolver. It is a German-made Rohm Model 30 in 32S&W. It is nickeled(sort of a poor job) and it has a bad-fitting Pachmayr (or however the hell you spell it...) grip on it. The bore is in excellent shape and the price is about $100. What I was wondering is are these revolvers any good? I don't want a really nice Ruger or S&W here. Just a cheap plinker.

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ABTOMAT
May 17, 2007, 09:50 PM
I'd forget it. These things were the original "saturday night specials" covered by the new rules in '68. Every Rohm I've seen was horribly made and I wouldn't trust it as a range gun.

Roadkill
May 17, 2007, 11:14 PM
What the man said. They are trash. There are some very good German gunmakers. There are some serviceable German gunmakers. Rohm is neither. Arminus is a decent German sixgun, but by no means up to US quality. There was a line called Apache that were also German made, okay gun. Suhl made the Western Marshall .44 mag, I have one and its a good gun but Suhl is a very good brand. Stay away from Rohm.

bartsimpson123844
May 17, 2007, 11:38 PM
Okay, thanks for the advice.

Geister
May 18, 2007, 12:48 AM
Come to think of it, revolvers are one of the few industries that America totally dominated in terms of quality, price, and innovation.

Trebor
May 18, 2007, 08:35 AM
Stay far away. I wouldn't shoot one on a bet.

ABTOMAT
May 18, 2007, 09:24 AM
Was it Rohm or RG that sold revolvers made from frames of blank/industrial guns?

bartsimpson123844
May 18, 2007, 09:31 AM
I thought RG and Rohm were the same? As in, RG distributed Rohm firearms?

Hawk
May 18, 2007, 11:09 AM
There are some nice revolvers to come out of Germany.

http://www.korthusa.com/images/pic-25.jpg

Priced well over RG / Rohm though.

But if used Python prices keep going nuts, the base model Korth is going to start looking downright reasonable.

PX15
May 18, 2007, 12:01 PM
First, IMO if you are looking for a "plinker" I don't think anything in 32cal S&W is gonna make you happy....

I've had Rohm's in the distant past, and they are cheaply made and basically I think if you look in Websters Dictionary at "POS" you will find a picture of a Rohm revolver prominently pictured.

Here's a picture of my two (inherited) W. German Burgos.. They look pretty good too, but I wouldn't shoot one if you paid me.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_4832.jpg

My suggestion is to take your $100.00, save up another $100.00 or so, and buy you a revolver (or pistol) that will give you good service, be safe and won't have the potential to "self-destruct" on you. In a better caliber.....

For calibers in a revolver I recommend 22cal.... Always cheap to shoot, everyone should have at least one 22cal firearm anyway. Or: 38spec.. Easily found most places and the price isn't TOO bad if you buy bulk, like wwwb.. If you get a pistol then again at the top of my caliber list (for a plinker) would be the 22cal.. Then the 9mm.. Nine MM is priced very reasonably and available everyplace but a Mennonite Bakery.

Ruger makes excellent revolvers in rimfire or centerfire:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_5175.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_5166.jpg

The 357mag. Security-Six pictured above is imo an EXCELLENT firearm. They can be purchased very reasonably online at wwwGunsAmerica.com, or the other auction sites.. Built like a tank, adjustable sights, and underpriced on todays "plastic pistol" market. You can "plink" with 38cal "wadcutters", and if you so desire you can load up full power 357 magnums for self defense/home protection.

I've had this Security-Six for decades, and it resides in a nightstand by my bed for "bump in the night" duty...

Lot to be said for the powerful 357 magnum round for personal protection, yet the SS will offer plinking at a reasonable price w/38 special ammo.

Let me respectfully suggest you don't want to buy a "cheap" firearm, it's false economy.. If you can't afford a "good" gun now, wait until you can. It's the smarter thing to do.

Just my old fart opinion.

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy

PzGren
May 18, 2007, 01:35 PM
Roehm was not renowned for blank guns but because of the legislation in post war Germany as a manufacturer of cheap gas pistols. They fired either a 6 or a 9mm gas charge and there were also blanks available for them.

The materials chosen for them were usually zinc alloys because they could not be altered by just drilling them out and converting them to a real firearm. The zinc started melting when drilled.

I had bought some Roehms a dozen years ago and some were not too bad. They came from law enforcement auction and I paid $5 to $30 (plus tax).

I got rid of all of them, don't wonder why!

foghornl
May 18, 2007, 03:16 PM
:evil: :D RG means "Rotten Gun" :evil: :D

Actually, I have a Rohm/RG snubby .38. Not a real top-o-the-line shootin' iron, but it is OK. I shoot it once or twice a year, and it is acceptable on short-range shoots with 148-Gr wadcutters and 158-Gr plain lead Round nose. Shoots OK, too, with those light 130-gr or so FMJ rounds. Shot both Federal & PMC brands of those.

using those 125-gr plain lead round-nose flat-point "Cowboy Action" rounds, it is a real 'puddy tat' to shoot. :D

Something else, too, about using this as a fun plinker....How cheap is the .32 S&W fodder near you?

Deanimator
May 18, 2007, 03:47 PM
RGs are simply THE worst commercial firearms imagineable.

Any RG firearm (and I use the term loosely) makes a Hi Point look like a SIG P-210.

Deanimator
May 18, 2007, 03:49 PM
I thought RG and Rohm were the same? As in, RG distributed Rohm firearms?

"Roehm Gesellschaft".

They're the same thing.

CZ.22
May 18, 2007, 04:23 PM
I have a RG Model 31 in .32 SWL-my dad bought it for $85 bucks in the 80s. Not good. Cylinder will not move after about 3 cylinders full. However, it is surprisingly accurate for such a bad gun.
Don't buy. Get a Heritage if you want a fun plinker.

Geister
May 18, 2007, 10:50 PM
PX15,

Is your Security Six a pre-warning model? Also, how's the DA trigger pull?

rc135
May 19, 2007, 12:04 AM
To Quote Hawk: "There are some nice revolvers to come out of Germany." Yes, there are. I've got a Rohm Model 66 in 22Mag and, so far, it's been superb. I like shooting it a lot. Although the general consensus is that the earlier models were, well, spotty at best, their later revos were a lot better -- not Heritage Manufacturing or Ruger quality, perhaps, but good guns. My opinion...

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artyboy
November 28, 2007, 08:49 PM
I had an RG .38 revolver for a year or so. I paid $75 for it. I put about 500 rounds through it without a single problem. The trigger was excessively heavy but that just adds to the safety of it imo. After shooting 50 or so rounds the front sight would get a bit wobbly but a gunsmith friend drilled out the old barrel pin and installed a new one. It now works flawlessly. I also have a Burgos .22 revolver that I like better than my Hi-Standard (not that that's a shining example of a quality pistol). If you know what to look for you can usually pick out a good specimen with a bad brand name.

Jim March
November 28, 2007, 08:54 PM
The only safe way to shoot a Rohm/RG is with a bench vice and 100 yards of string.

ez45
November 28, 2007, 11:09 PM
I had a colt single action clone in .22 from RG and the top strap actually cracked all the way through. Junk metal, junk gun.

Tom Servo
November 29, 2007, 01:55 AM
There are some nice revolvers to come out of Germany.

Priced well over RG / Rohm though.
A Rohm ain't a Korth, though :)

A student of mine was once a salesman for Rohm's American division, and even he didn't have anything nice to say about the weapons.

Gordon
November 29, 2007, 02:02 AM
Want to get a lot of response to a thread on this forum? Just talk about an RG or an Iver Johnson and you get a thousand hits!:rolleyes:

Jim March
November 29, 2007, 02:12 AM
(to the tune of "row row row your boat")

"Rhom, Rhom, Rhom a gun,
Jesus Christ what junk,
Thank your lucky stars the damnthing's
often packed by punks"

jimmyraythomason
November 29, 2007, 02:25 AM
My dad owned an RG .22 short revolver. It had a 1 3/4'' barrel and fixed sights. My dad bought it from the peddler(pre-1968) for $5.00. I carried it as a trapline gun for many years,even killing a bobcat(not in a trap)with it at about 10 yards. My brother has the gun now(dad passed in 2003).

Okiecruffler
November 29, 2007, 08:09 AM
My first pistol was a 22 SA RG. I still have it. It still shoots. That's about as far as the praise goes. It hits the target every now and then.
And Jim, I hate to say this, but you're wrong. Safe way to shoot a RG is from 100 yrds away with a real gun.

Roswell 1847
November 29, 2007, 10:31 AM
I learned to shoot well with a cheap German made revolver that my older Brother won on a tipboard.
It was an amasingly accurate little .22 double action shaped like a single action smaller tha a Bearcat, I could hit a 6oz coke bottle at fifty yards with it every time.
No explanation for why the little piece of crap would shoot that well, I still can't figure it out.

Brother had another German gun that exceeded all expectations. It was a steel framed snubnosed .38 that you pulled the cylinder pin forward in order to swing out the cylinder. That pistol shot like a target pistol. It had a heavy frame and a five shot cylinder. Looked something like a Charter Arms crossed with an American Bulldog.

No I wouldn't buy one today but those two guns were unusually accurate and smooth.

PS
The worst RG ever made is better than the best Clerke revover I've ever seen.
I think there was a good justification for the Saturday Night Special law, if just to get crap like those guns off the street. They just went too far as usual.
Unfortunatel we now have the Davis and the Raven and a few that remind me of last ditch German and Japanese guns, only less likely to work if needed.

jimmyraythomason
November 29, 2007, 02:05 PM
"The worst RG ever made is better than the best Clerke revover I've ever seen." +1

Roswell 1847
November 30, 2007, 03:08 AM
Anyone need a Clerke Cylinder. A friend gave me his to strip for parts after the frame broke on the second shot ever fired out of it.
I got the barrel liner out pretty easily, one touch of the propane torch and the Zamac alloy ran like water.

The Clerke is an accident waiting to happen. You could carve a more effective pistol out of a dog turd. It makes the RG look like a Colt Python by comparasion.

PX15
November 30, 2007, 09:05 AM
Eatcha' hearts out folks:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_4832.jpg

Two prime examples of top quality pot metal West German* Burgos, with consecutive serial numbers for your viewing pleasure. Or not.

I know what you're thinking... "Can I buy these beauties"...

Nope. Not for sale, at any price. No way, never. ;);)

J.P.

* Pre-fallen wall

Roswell 1847
November 30, 2007, 10:52 AM
I'm thinking about the nice little .32 rimfire Forehand&Wadsworth pocket revolver a friend obtained not long ago. It probably sold for a buck ten in the 1890's and was the absolute low end of American made pistols, yet its as solid today as the day it was made and I wouldn't hesitate to trust it if I could find ammo for it. Simple, reliable, and solid steel.

The_Antibubba
November 30, 2007, 03:33 PM
If you can talk the price down to $25 you can have an utterly reliable weapon--as long as you put inside a tubesock a use it as a sap.

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