Carbine or shotgun?


Still Learning
January 7, 2003, 09:54 PM
What do you prefer for your everyday carry long gun? I carried a short ( 19 inch) barreled 870 for several years but have switched to an even shorter (16 inch) barreled carbine for the added range. There are trade-offs in everything.

What are the rest of The High Roaders carrying for their long guns?

I am especially interested in your reasoning. Input?

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January 7, 2003, 09:59 PM
Since carbines are almost non-existent in CA, I've gone w/ a pump shotgun w/ the added bonus of my son being quite proficient in its use (and cleaning!)

January 7, 2003, 10:15 PM
I prefer a carbine. They are more effective and fun at picking off random opportunity targets such as coyote and jackrabbits. Had a lot of fun when I lived it Oklahoma with a SKS.

You can also get snake shot in just about all pistol calibers, making a pistol caliber carbine a good option. I've gotten hits out to 200 yards with my little 9mm. Takes a while to get there, but it will definitely thump em.

Good Shooting

January 7, 2003, 10:17 PM
Pre-ban AR carbine here, 16" fluted flat top with acog. Light, fast handling quick to re-load, will handle most situtions short to long.

January 7, 2003, 10:27 PM
I have been doing some heavy contemplating lately about putting a 9mm Carbine in my trunk, so I will say the Carbine.

The reason I am considering 9mm cheap ammo for practicing, good self defense loads available, don't have to worry about over penetration as more, and range is better then shotgun.

St. Gunner
January 7, 2003, 10:33 PM
I carry a .280 Browning A-bolt stalker most of the time to dispatch assorted vermin. Sometimes its other stuff, but its my hands down favorite at the present time because of its light weight and the way it always seems to hit what it gets aimed at. I just used it a couple hours ago to smack a bobcat, 200yds, bullet hole right where it was supposed to be. We've done hogs, deer, coyotes, and almost an alligator that decided to plop up right next to my leg one afternoon(See attached photo). I have a rifle with a shilen barrel built on a German 98 action sitting here awaiting a scope, its been ordered just aint here yet. It's my little groups gun, but doesn't get drug around all the time cause it weighs 11lbs and it doesn't wear sythetic like the A-bolt.

I figure the rifle works fine for most anything, not going to stop a million chinaman charge if they invade Texas, but then a carbine with a few 30rd mags isn't either. I'll try to select the officers and you folks clean up the rest after my passing if they come this way.:D I carry a shotgun most of the time, but normally by the end of the day it's buried so far under assorted crap I couldn't get to it for 5 or 10 minutes. Mainly leave it there cause somebody is always coming up and asking us to track their crippled game(I build fence on a bunch of ranches).

So I don't carry it cause it is the most tactically sound piece in the gunsafe, but it seems to cover most every situation I am likely to encounter.

Jeff White
January 7, 2003, 10:42 PM
Carbine...Colt R6920 with Aimpoint and Surefire 6v light. Rides in the squad car, my truck, the house.....


Ron L
January 7, 2003, 10:55 PM
My son's Remington 870 Youth is quite nice, light, and compact and if we'd put a shorter but still legal barrel on it, it's be even handier but it's OK as is for now. Otherwise, my Marlin lever rifle has an 18" barrel and is very light and compact as well.

January 7, 2003, 11:07 PM
I'm thinking about a lever action in .357. Already have 4 revolvers in that caliber, so It's not adding to my caliber load. Plus, it's not an "evil black rifle", but I betcha you won't find any volunteers to stand in front of one within 150 yards or so!;)
It is a carbine too!

January 7, 2003, 11:14 PM
i carry a Marlin 336 30-30 in my truck with me

January 7, 2003, 11:22 PM
M4 Carbine: because they issue me one. I do think it's fairly effective at close ranges, despite my inherent distrust of the AR15/M16 family.

For all-round versatility, the SG is hard to beat, but for range and multiple inbound bogies, I'd take the carbine. You decide what your key drivers are, and go from there.

January 8, 2003, 12:30 AM
No long guns for everyday carry. In a city, I'd probably lean towards a pump shotgun. In less urban areas, a lightweight rifle in 243 or similar makes sense.

I guess my Howa 1500 Ultralight in 243 with Burris 3-9X compact could resolve a few issues if needbe. :D

January 8, 2003, 02:07 AM
Rem M7 w/a 2X8 scope - in .308 The Wife's 7-08 w/a 2X7's no slouch, nor would be a .243 for 2-legged varmits, though I'm a bit fond of that old 760 pump .30-06 too.

The latter is just as accurate, quite a bit faster & has interchangeable mags - some more punch.

Any will reach out a bit.

Always will love most any of the 870 12s.

One of the reasons I tell The Wife = "That's why there's two of us .... " ;)

She can work her bolt while I take those who come through the gap ......

One gun is as lonely as internet porn. (so I've heard) ;)

January 8, 2003, 03:04 AM
I have lots of shotguns, the one that gets home defense duty is the 12ga Ithaca M37 with #6 birdshot.

I also have an M1 carbine ready to go if necessary.

January 8, 2003, 03:26 AM
Over a decade of cowboy shootin has made me very proficient with my Browning '92 .357 mag. Little furry critter or Ne’r do well,
a 125 gr. controled expansion semi jacketed hollow point at over
1700 ft. pr. second will do just about anything I need it to. :p

Still Learning
January 8, 2003, 08:34 AM
Loved St. Gunner's picture! Glad you didn''t have to shoot the 'gator...means you didn't have to hide the carcass from the TX game wardens.

Seems like most here prefer the carbine or rifle over the SG for added range. That's the reason I switched. I do think that when carrying in a vehicle it's a good idea to have both on hand...Sometimes I'm just too lazy to load them both, though.

Thanks for the input.

January 8, 2003, 08:50 AM
870 with an 18.5 barrel.

January 8, 2003, 09:01 AM
For my Grand Wagoneer, I store my Remington 597 .22WMR behind the front seats because I'm smurfin' squirrely. I keep meaning to replace it with my Universal M1 Carbine, but I just muster much confidence in the reliability, which has been somewhat spotty.
For my Lumina, an IJ-70 in the glovebox must suffice.

However, I am proficient with the 597 and perhaps I'll keep it as the standard until I find a nice Mossberg 590 to replace it (I really need a reason to buy the 590, and I'm not entirely difficult to convince).

January 8, 2003, 09:27 AM
Define carry...

If you mean in the vehicle, why not both?


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