When has your gun failed you?


Mark IV Series 80
June 21, 2003, 02:35 PM
I have been lucky, my only failures have come during target practice, and in an attempt to kill a rat.

When has your gun failed you?

Please include any failures during competition, hunting, or emergency use. Run-of-the-mill range failures don't count.

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June 21, 2003, 02:54 PM
My old Browning Challenger decided I didn't need the rear sight during a match once. The spring broke and flew off into the never ever to found again world. I was a fool for ever selling that gun off, the Buckmark of today (it's sibling) is not of the quality of the old Challengers.

June 21, 2003, 03:01 PM
Mine hasnt actually failed me, but it continually fails the anti gunners by not jumping out of its holster by itself and going on a shooting spree! :)

June 21, 2003, 03:22 PM
Only twice. Once was at the range with a Taurus Pt-58S. The sear that engages the firing pin block sheared off level with the top of the frame, rendering the pistol useless.

The other time was the first time I hunted with a used Remington 870. I dropped a pheasant about 35 yards away, and it landed in some tall grass. As the dog went to retrieve it, two more roosters flushed from that same area. As I cycled the action, I realized that a shell had slipped past the catches and was lodged under the bolt. Not only did I just have to watch in vain, but it took about 10 minutes of pounding and swearing to clear the stoppage. Fortunately, a very thorough cleaning fixed the problem.

I won't even begin to count the number of times I had military weapons turn into single-shots due to the use of blank ammunition (M16s, M2s and M60s). Despite routine failures with blanks, I never experienced a stoppage with live ammo.

Oh yeah, I did have the front sight shoot loose on an M1 during a Highpower match, but that was my own fault in not checking the retention bolt.

June 21, 2003, 04:08 PM
Only target shooting for me. Once I sent the Sigma .40 to S&W to get the corrected barrel it has been old reliable. Seriously. No probs since and never had any other probs in any other gun. Guess I'm just lucky.

brad cook

June 21, 2003, 04:17 PM
an old wards catalog 16 gauge pump used to fall apart, jam
and become a useless club everytime I shot it.

June 21, 2003, 04:19 PM
I own a Jennings pistol..Do i really need to say anything else

Mark Tyson
June 21, 2003, 04:50 PM
I've had M-16s (and varients) fail during qualification and familiarization. And NO, not because of sloppy maintenance!

June 21, 2003, 04:52 PM
Wow! Sounds like you guys need a Beretta!!:D :neener:

June 21, 2003, 05:28 PM
Crooked muzzle brake on new Springfield M1A Scout, circa 2001. Came insecured from factory so it would point straight. When secuired properly, it would point UP. Had to send it back, got it back in a few weeks, but only sighted it in since I got it. HOpefully put a few more thru her before my carbine class in 3 weeks.

Beretta 92G has upwards to 8000 rounds thru it and not a hiccup that wasn't my fault (i.e. opened it up and was so eager to shoot it I didn't put a single drop of oil in it)

June 21, 2003, 06:32 PM
I had soft strikes w/ my SIG 220 (among other problems). I bought it on reputation & my experience w/ it left me very disappointed.

June 21, 2003, 08:21 PM
The barrel of my Sig P220 bulged during a department qualification. The slide seized and the P220 instantly became a paperweight. The barrel had to be cut off in order to field strip the weapon.

June 22, 2003, 01:47 AM
I had a trigger spring on a Glock break once. Then for some reason I had a perpetual light primer strike with another Glock.

Replaced the parts, and that was the end of my problems.

June 22, 2003, 02:07 AM
Bad factory ammo a couple of times on range/competition.

I have subjected a 1911, model 10, security six, beretta 92, and a few others to pouring sand in them, dropping in mud/muck/snow...just to had to see what would work and what wouldn't. How and why fail. So I've had failures-on purpose.

1911 didn't fail. went bang, and emptied mag.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
June 22, 2003, 04:16 AM
I had an old Remington Sportsman 48 (predecessor to the 1100) that a frat brother gave me as repayment for bailing him out of the calaboose on a PI. The only time it fired in my presence was when my brother, who I had lent it to on a dove hunt had a N/D (he claims an A/D) with the frazzling thing and put a nice 12ga hole through the floorboard of my car.

It quickly became 'trading material".

I don't hunt as much with my brother, either, for obvious reasons.


Sylvilagus Aquaticus
June 22, 2003, 04:16 AM
oops. duplicate post deleted.

June 22, 2003, 01:06 PM
Well the only significant failure I’ve had was, when hunting as a youth, a jam led to a brief but bloody fight with a wild animal.

It all started innocently enough as I walked alone along through a cut over adjacent to a sand pit, with my scoped Glendfield Model 60 loaded with the cheapest rimfire ammunition I could fine. I had been shooting at whatever I could see cans, bottles, stumps and although I had not suffered any jams, the inexpensive ammunition would throw hot gunpowder into my face as it was ejected from the semiautomatic. As I plinked along, thinking what it must be like to hunt big game in Africa, I was not paying attention to my surroundings and the dangers that lurked there.

As I stepped up on a 20 foot long or so blow down I saw the broad back of a muscular chipmunk sitting on the other end of the log. I drew my weapon to my shoulder and looking through the 4X scope the beast almost filled the field of view. Thinking it unsporting to use the scope at close range I first dropped down to the iron sights and then with the same reasoning I placed the rifles stock to my hip.

The shot range out dislodging a piece of Oak a few inches to the right of the target. Instead of running off as I had expected, the beast swung around to face me. It was then that I saw it’s hideous face, with huge cheeks stuffed full what I would latter discover were acorns, and a set of huge teeth. In an instant the angry animal stood on its hind legs, let out a shrill squeak and charged. I was unprepared, but regaining my composure as the angry animal closed the distance in 6 or 8” increments, I brought my rifle into play and attempted to fire a second shot.

The rifle didn’t fire and I had no time for an immediate action drill. A picture of those huge teeth penetrating my Keds ran through my mind, “Dam why didn’t I wear boots” I thought as the attacker neared. I snapped out of my doldrums and grabbing the rifle by its barrel I struck out with the guns stock, as I looked down over barrel and stock. It was a glancing blow but I immediately finished the job with a second blow, and the beast slid off the blow down leaving a bloody spot and crushed acorns.

I sat down on the log trying to regain my composure while rerunning the events of attack in my mind. I was shaken, as I had never been charged by a wild animal before. It was then I realized, as I had smashed my rifle stock into the attacker, I had been looking down the barrel and stock of my rifle, which I had pointed at my head. I remembered that I had earlier fired the rifle by hitting the stock on a stump as a test. I looked at the action and realized that a spent shell stuck there has stopped the rifle from discharging, I got very nervous. Unloading the rifle and I walked home while keeping an eye out for a vengeful relative of the Chipmunk.

To this day when I sit on the forest floor with 629 in hand, waiting for a Black bear to go to the bait, I nervously scan the trees for chipmunks. :)


Sean Cloherty
June 22, 2003, 04:42 PM
Only in two places - practicing while using cheap WOlf ammo in .45 ACP and 7.62x39 and in my nightmares. It seems that the more critical it is in my dreams to have a functioning firearm, the less likely it is going to work.

Most of my dreams involve squibs. But last night I dreamt that a mob moll was about to shoot me in my own bedroom. Of course my pistol action clicked, there was a quiet bang/sizzle, and it came apart down the middles like a poorly constructed toy.

Oddly the innards looked just like the gold plastic toy gun I had in the early 1970s which fired little disks from a spring loaded box magazine in front of the trigger guard. Anyone remember those?

June 23, 2003, 12:41 AM
to have the 'bling bling' necessary to win over the hearts and minds of my young nephews who have seen what guns are 'supposed' to look like from movies and tv.

June 23, 2003, 03:21 AM
other than "run of the mill range failures" nope, especially because I don't hunt or compete.:)

June 23, 2003, 09:40 AM
Oddly the innards looked just like the gold plastic toy gun I had in the early 1970s which fired little disks from a spring loaded box magazine in front of the trigger guard. Anyone remember those?
Yeah, they still make them. I know this because my childrens' grandparents got each one of them his very own disk gun with extra disks even. For the record, 5 kids times 5 guns times 5 stacks of twenty plastic disks apiece means that there are about a bajillion little plastic disks all over my house. I'm not sure how it happened, but the @%^$% little disks multiplied. :p

Oh, thread topic? My Glock 26 had a broken take-down spring during a class awhile back.

It happened during FAS-4 (http://www.firearmsacademy.com/fas4.htm), right before taking the Master Test. We were on break, and I'd slipped into an empty shooting bay to do a little dry-fire. As I drew my gun and pulled the trigger, the entire slide went flying downrange, landing in a puddle of icy mud. I picked it up and put it back on, and it came right back off again. :confused: Blinked at it a couple times.

I took it over to the fellow teaching the class, Tom Haeflinger, who eyed it dubiously and sent me up to talk to Marty and Gila. Marty rummaged through his Big Box o'Gun Parts, but found no suitable piece. Gila very graciously loaned me a part out of her own Glock so that I could finish the class. :)

I still failed the durn test, though. Be nice to blame it on being frazzled from all that (and I was) -- but the truth was, I just needed to work on it a bit more.


Inanimate objects are classified scientifically into three categories-- those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. -- Russell Baker

June 23, 2003, 11:52 AM
I bought a fancy new bore guide for cleaning my Stolle Panda.

It didn't seal the chamber as well as my old "low tech" Lucas guide.

I ended up with all sortsa crap in the trigger, which basically gave up at the Supershoot. Ended up buying a replacement (a Shilen).

The Jewell is getting reworked, and will be in a different rifle.

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