Suicide by motorcycle gang/stupid mother


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8Balls
June 21, 2003, 04:01 PM
Its 2230. Quiet evening, birds are singing etc. NNNRRAAAUUGHH! Group of bikers drives to their HQ which is in old garage in nearby industrial area. (Empty because its 22.30 pm) My mother goes ballistic goes after them. Unarmed. She hates guns. I go after her and ask "Where are you going?"
"Nowhere, this just my evening walk..."
"Should i get gun?"
"No, guns are bad, we dont need guns." (God, if had known what she was about to do, I had ran back to get some serious hardware...)

She notices an open garage door and several bikes. She rushes in (God, she is SO STUPID) and starts shouting to 2 meter tall fat biker which is luckily bit too drunk too anything. She even managed to tell them exactly where we live. :fire: The rest of the bikers come to the door and tried to stop us from leaving. My mom and fat biker bitch are about start a fight. I managed to them out of it. I tell her that we cant do anything or prove anything, so we should get hell outta there and fast. No she pissed because she thinks im on their side.

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jsalcedo
June 21, 2003, 04:20 PM
Sheeesh. Get mom some lithium and buy her a Harley:D

4v50 Gary
June 21, 2003, 04:21 PM
Being right is one thing. Being indignant about it is another. Discretion is the better part of valor and happily, you knew enough to bow out.

Matthew Courtney
June 21, 2003, 04:29 PM
Exactly what offenses against your mother or society have these cycle enthusiasts alledgedly committed?

Art Eatman
June 21, 2003, 04:30 PM
'Scuse me, but it sounds like Mater is the one who got things going. If it's the biker's Hq, they've been there before, right? You've already known about that? And, if it's their Hq, don't they have a right to be there? As in, paying rent?

Are their bikes' exhausts louder than your law allows?

And what have they done that's new and different and now unduly disturbing? If it's "more of the same", why have you not complained to the authorities before now?

My recommendation is that a fella start unloading magazines and practice thinking calmly about life outside of prison...

Art

Johnny Guest
June 21, 2003, 04:38 PM
I had a mother who was similarly unrestrained in expressing displeasure toward offensive people.

BUT - - - If she is so anti-gun, is she one of those who feels the police have a duty to protect each person? Why, then, did she not get on the phone and call the police to deal with the unreasonable noise and neighborhood disturbance? In fact, why didn't YOU make the call before you tagged along with her.

Even the crudest bikers may have SOME qualms about physically harming some decent woman, but you, as her "protector" and escort, might have been fair game for them to make their (imbecilic) points.

I know nothing of the laws of your fair country, but would think there is SOME regulation about noise and unreasonable disturbances.

Also--You might well expect the bikers will take a ride through your neighborhood, just to prove they aren't intimidated by the womn. Please, PLEASE, hold off on any pre-emptive action against them if there is no direct physical confrontation.

I fully realize that there are a LOT of offensive people who "Clearly Need Killing." Problem, no one appointed you, or me, to do the job unless we are in actual physical danger, and even then, there is always some accounting and justification to be done.

Best of luck, to you AND your mother.
Johnny

8Balls
June 21, 2003, 04:49 PM
I have locked all the door and windows and watching old b-class horror film. :D Btw, now shes complaining that i wasnt there to support her... Yeah, right. I was busy trying to talk us out of HER mess.

EDIT: Where can I aquire spike strips? Anyone?:D

Orthonym
June 21, 2003, 05:53 PM
and neither should you or anyone else. But, ah, how can I say this....? Spike strips good, caltrops better!:evil:

A. Partisan
June 21, 2003, 06:02 PM
8balls,
Please tell everyone what these "bikers" did to warrant your mother entering their "HQ". If it was that bad the police should have been called.


I am a motorcycle enthusiast for 30 years now , 28 years on a Harley. 1. If someone entered my property uninvited, in an unfriendly manner, the very least that would happen is I would use their head to make an "imbecilic point". 2.(offensive people "Who clearly need killing") Those thoughts will manifest themselves in someway,someday and cause a lot of problems.

Skunkabilly
June 21, 2003, 06:08 PM
NNNRRAAAUUGHH!

Wait...how does it go? :D

I'd pay money to hear you attach a .WAV file of you making that noise... :D

Peetmoss
June 21, 2003, 06:11 PM
What excatly did these "bikers" do to deserve your mothers harrasment? Did they have LOUD pipes? If it was the pipes give me a break. Just remember everyone LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES.

BallisticTip
June 21, 2003, 06:21 PM
Your mother is very brave.

8Balls
June 21, 2003, 06:22 PM
Loud pipes save lives? Loud pipes keep me awake in the middle of the night when the biker come and go. I mean on saturdays and sundays, on fridays young "car enthusiastics" set up their illegal street races.:cuss: See, thats why I NEED the spike strip.:cool:

Orthonym
June 21, 2003, 06:37 PM
RRRRINGGttttdingdingdingtddingttttding! That's why this post is firearms-related. If I ever get the thing running again, both solid citizens and Hawg riders (both kinds) will probably be thinking about killing me, so I'll need to be able to defend myself.:D

Johnny Guest
June 21, 2003, 06:54 PM
Let's see if this can be expressed VERY simply - - -

No one here is going to tell you it's okay for you to shoot any bikers, or anyone else. If your life is really in danger, you'll know it, and won't need any advice from any of us.

Aside from it being against THR policy to help others plan illegal acts, most of the members here are fairly rational and restrained persons. As I mentioned before, I don't know the laws of Finland, but I'll bet my next paycheck that it is against the law, and I mean ILLEGAL, for private individuals to booby trap public streets. No one's going to advise you on how to do it.

If you feel put upon in an illegal manner, CALL THE POLICE and explain the situation.

I'll come right out and say it - - -
DO NOT SHOOT any of those guys who are just passing your residence.
DO NOT PUT OUT SPIKES on a public roadway. Or caltrops. Or mines.

Just call this pretty good advice. I don't believe in telling other members what they MUST do, or even what they SHOULD do. The above is about as strongly as I can state this advice.

Very best of luck to you - - -
Johnny

8Balls
June 21, 2003, 07:25 PM
Johnny, im not about to shoot anyone. I hope I never have to. I usually field strip my guns when come from the range. After cleaning I hide the barrels to garage and put the rest to my gun safe. Right now (because of this) I have one operational pistol nearby, just in case.

Orthonym
June 21, 2003, 07:31 PM
with 8Balls and the rest of you. I'm actually a very mature, grown-up person, more so than, say, Teddy Roosevelt. Didn't some ambassador say that TR was the biggest 6-year-old he'd ever seen, or something like that? Well, I'm far more mature than that! My sweetie thinks I act like I'm TEN!

Trisha
June 21, 2003, 07:37 PM
Mutti sounds about typical for a Finn - my heart goes out to you!

Trisha, of Karelia

techmike
June 22, 2003, 12:03 AM
EDIT: Where can I aquire spike strips? Anyone?

This is a remakaably bad idea...If I hit the spike strips on my bike whoever puth them there better hope it kills me.

If the noise bothers you that much, you might consider asking them nicely, when they are sober, to quiet it down a little...you might be suprised at the response you get. A neighbor of mine recently complained to me about my pipes being too loud...now I make a point not gun it going by his house..no biggie. I ride with some really rough looking guys, who would give a stranger the shirt off thier back if they were treated with a little respect.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
June 22, 2003, 04:27 AM
Geez...I have Suomi friends over here. I can tell the extroverted ones from the rest because they're looking at MY shoes.

Y'all ever think about aerial spraying with Thorazine?

Hei Hei.

Regards,
Rabbit.

gunsmith
June 22, 2003, 04:39 PM
this is not a funny thread at all.
you want to kill these guys cause your mom
is mad at you?
just ask them politley to keep it down,
if that dog don't hunt,call the police...
if that doesn't work then you start figuring
something else...I lived in Ireland
and my neighbors would blast that
loud dance music that all unemployed
young europeans love so much(at 4 am),after finding out
that the cops would not respond,I just turned off
their electricty. it's annoying but your life is not in danger
find an alternative

Penforhire
June 22, 2003, 05:10 PM
And while I have nothing AGAINST loud pipes, they don't save lives. Stop spouting that nonsensical line. It belongs right next to "helmets cause more injuries" (and I used to ride without a lid when it was legal). They only guy in a fast-moving cage who notices your open pipes is the cager inching over from the next lane. They (loud pipes) are, howver, likely to eventually restrict our ability to modify our two-wheeled rides.

Now stepping down from my soapbox...

Justin
June 22, 2003, 05:25 PM
And that is about enough of that.

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