[saands]

I just bought a thousand of Precision's black 200gr semi-wadcutters as their coating is supposed to hold up well to the "abusive" velocities of the 460 ... the problem is that I forgot about the extra length of the Rowland case and the case will extend about 0.020" above the band on the SWC! :cuss:

Anyway, it occurred to me that even bullets that are not relieved like the SWC's are still might be less than 0.451" diameter where the 460 cases end ... what are you guys out there using?!?

It seems that the rule of thumb for H&G #68 style SWC's is 1.250" OAL ... anyone know if one of these at a 1.270" OAL will feed in a standard 1911?

Thanks,

Saands

[E357]

I'm confused by your post. A Roland case should not chamber in a 1911 chambered in .45 ACP. Pretty much like a .357 will not chamber in a 38. The OAL might be shown as the same as a .45 ACP, but this is so the round fits in the 45's magazine.

The Dan Wesson 460 Roland revolvers are actually badly named 45 Win Mag revolvers.

As a general rule of thumb, most .45 SWC are seated so that about 1/20 to 1/16 of an inch or so of the driving band remains above the case mouth. The best way to determine this is to remove your barrel and drop a round in the chamber and then buy the Jerry Kuknhaysen book "The Colt .45 Automatic".

Elliot

[saands]

Sorry for the confusion ... by a "standard 1911" I meant a standard 1911 frame with a 460 Rowland kit attached.

I realize that the general rule of thumb is to leave a little of the driving band above the mouth of the case, but with the 460 cases, you end up with a OAL that won't fit in the mag! I was wondering if a 1.270" OAL SWC in 45acp feeds in a standard 1911 because if it does, then a 1.270" OAL SWC in 460 will probably feed in mine. I didn't really want to load up a bunch of dummies (the 460 brass is a little too expensive to waste) just to try it if people could just tell me that "NO, 1.270 won't feed" or "yep ... they should feed fine"

I have Jerry's 1911 shop manuals ... does he have another?

Thanks,
Saands

[Clark]

I shoot 185 gr Rem FMJ WC from the pistol [Republic Arms Patriot, now Cobra].

I shoot 230gr FMJ Montana Gold from the rifle [rebarrelled 1903 Turkish Masuer].

I use once fired, mixed, processed 45 acp brass from Scharch and CCI200 large rifle primers.

Both are at 1.275".

The pistol has the stock 45acp chamber.

The rifle has a chamber I made with a .469" straight fluted reamer, a 45acp throater, and a dummy 1.275" cartridge I made up as a chamber guage.

The reason I use different bullet is that the pistol kicks lilke a mule, while I am trying to get good groups at 100m with the rifle.