Gun for the ranges
JFlores
May 22, 2007, 09:45 PM
So what do most of you guys use to shoot at the range. I was thinking either a Smith & Wesson 22 LR or a Walther P22?? What do you recommend or preference??
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EZred
May 22, 2007, 09:53 PM
Welcome to THR. When I shoot pistol, i generally start every session with 50 rounds of 22LR in my Colt Woodsman at 25yds. I find that this generally focuses me, good sight picture, good trigger control, before I move to large bore. I always shoot well with whatever pistol follows. I think that a lot of .22 rounds down range really improves your shooting. The .22 conversions for the 1911 are one of the greatest things to come along.
FXWG
May 22, 2007, 09:56 PM
Well...... tomorrow is another .22lr day.
So I will be bringing just the S&W 22A and the Sig Mosquito.
Last week I took both of those, plus the 10/22 and the 597.
The previous trip to the range was the 1911, P229, XD40 and BKM.
The trip before that was the GP100 plus....
Basically, every thing I own goes to the range. Regularly.
If you are not comfortable shooting what you own on a regular basis,
why own it.:confused:
American_Pit_Bull
May 22, 2007, 09:58 PM
It depends on what I feel like shooting that day... Sometimes one of the .22's, sometimes one of the 9mm's or the Mak, maybe the .45 or a .38 or .357...
I usually always take my suppressor with me and my CCW is a must... Sometimes it takes me a half hour just to decide what to take that day. (and that is just the handguns)
I usually only take one rifle at a time and my AR and .22's see much more range time than any of my big bores.
10 Ring Tao
May 22, 2007, 10:06 PM
Indoor?
9mm and .22, mostly.
9mm out of a kahr p9 covert, glock 19 and 17L. 22 out of an advantage arms conversion kit for the 19, and a 10/22.
At times, I'll whip out the .380 and 45s, but with ammo prices the way they are, I'll stick with my carry pieces and 22s.
Davo
May 22, 2007, 10:07 PM
I recommend the Ruger mkII, or 22/45! Also the Maks always good.
iamkris
May 22, 2007, 11:05 PM
All of them?
There isn't a pistol I own that I don't take to the range every once in a while. Except my blackpowder 51 Navy
ZMP_CTR
May 22, 2007, 11:06 PM
I always seem to lean towards my XD40. I'm thinking about putting some new sights on it. I have some XS sights still in the box. I can't decide whether or not to put them on.
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Outlaws
May 22, 2007, 11:29 PM
I prefer a target .22 over the other styles. Ruger makes a great 22/45, Mark II, and Mark III. All can be had with a bull barrel.
I haven't used the other target pistols from the competitors, but my 22/45 is extremely accurate.
Hardtarget
May 22, 2007, 11:33 PM
To me...anything that shoots is suitable for the range. If it is safe and functions...and "puts 'em where you point it"...its good to go. I've always liked a 17 cal. air pistol. Twenty careful shots will get you thinking about sight alignment and ready for the jump to .22 and right on up to the biggest caliber you own.
Got to be careful though. All that shooting will make you start thinking of other guns you'd like to have...:D
Mark.
Ala Dan
May 23, 2007, 12:00 AM
Greeting's All-
Well, this subject is like opening up a can of worms all by its-self; as you
will get many different replies. Here is a "short list" of firearms I shoot at
the range: [in NO particular order]
Smith & Wesson 5" stainless 1911 (basic model, product code 108282)
Springfield Armory WW-II G.I. (box stock) parkerized 1911
Springfield Armory .45 ACP-F 4" service model XD
West German SIG-SAUER .45 ACP P220A
West German SIG-SAUER 9m/m P228
Walther PPK .380 (american made)
Smith & Wesson 6" (six shot) model 686-5 .357 magnum
Smith & Wesson 2.5" model 66-4 .357 magnum
Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II .45 ACP
Smith & Wesson (old model) 60 .38 Special
Smith & Wesson model 642-2
Smith & Wesson 2" model 10-5 .38 Special
Browning BuckMark Classic Plus SE .22 LR
Bersa DT Thunder .380 ACP
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And coming soon, to a range near you:
Ruger 50th Anniversary Blackhawk 4-5/8" .357 magnum
Smith & Wesson model 39-2 (9m/m)
Kahr CW-9 (9m/m)
KEL-TEC P3AT .380 auto
Tricked out Ruger Mini-14 .223 with lighted reticle
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And, these make occassional trips to the range:
Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special 1911
Colt M4 .223 with a Bushnell HOLO-sight attached
Ruger 10/22
Remington 12 gague 870 Marine Magnum
Springfield Armory 5" MIL SPEC .45 ACP
Springfield Armory 5" WW-II stainless G.I. model .45 ACP
Seecamp LWS-32
Smith & Wesson model 60 (old model) .38 Special, only
'94 2" Stainless Rossi model 88 square butt, wood grips .38 Special (wifes gun)
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And, these DO NOT make it to the range:
2X 1966 Colt Detective Specials (original) blued, with 2" barrel
A 1971 Colt Detective Special (original) factory nickel, 2" barrel (test fired only)
A very early 1973 Colt Agent (original) high polished blue, NOT matte finish
A 1971 S&W model 30-1 (original) .32 S&W Long, blued with 2" barrel
A 1992 S&W model 37-2 (original) matte blued finish, with 2" barrel
A 1981 S&W model 34-1 (original) factory nickel "Kit Gun" .22 LR w/2" barrel
And, I probably missed a few~! :scrutiny:;):D
.cheese.
May 23, 2007, 12:03 AM
I have a Walther P22 - I say forget about it.
It's not very good.... I regret buying it.
Ala Dan
May 23, 2007, 12:09 AM
Att: The Economist My Friend-
quote:
"skip the P-22", its not very good- I regret buying it"
Care to explain, please? As I've heard good things 'bout these firearms;
and everyone I have sold, people return just raving 'bout how great they
are. So sorry that yours don't meet your expectations; is there anything
I can do too help?
.cheese.
May 23, 2007, 12:19 AM
it was nice for the first 100 rounds, and then it was a dud.
I get at least 2 FTFire with every mag worth of ammo - regardless of the ammo... and the accuracy is terrible. I'm not sure if it's the crown, or the rifling, but the shots are erratic to the point that you can't even compensate mentally for where it is going to go (ie: you know it shoots a little to the left... or the right.... instead at least my P22 shoots all over the place - even at ridiculously small distances like 7 yards).
I checked various forums, including the Walther forum at... I think it was rimfirecentral, or something like that - and my experiences aren't isolated.
I'm sure some are good - and it's possible I just got a bad one, but after reading that others were having some of the same problems, I came to the conclusion that there was a problem with the model in general.
I could be wrong.
For a while I just accepted it as being how .22 pistols are, as that was I was told at one point - but then at the range one day, I watched as one guy to my left had a Ruger 22/45 and the other guy to my right had a S&W of some sort, and watched as they had no FTFires and the pistol shot where they aimed it.
It seems silly that I can eat the black out of a target from most reasonable pistol distances with any of my .40 cal Glocks (the 27 especially), but my shots are everywhere with the P22 from 7 yards..... no flinch or anything.
lol... I don't think there is anything you can do to help though, but thank you. I think I just need to store it in the safe and get something else. I'll keep it as maybe one day I'll take it to a gun smith to get worked on... but for the meantime it's not worth it.
ZMP_CTR
May 23, 2007, 12:19 AM
I bought a P22 a while back. I took it out to shoot it, and it was pretty much a single shot. I'd shoot, charge, shoot, charge....you get the idea. I took the P22 apart, cleaned, and lubricated it, and then bought three different brands of ammo. All good! I went back out to shoot and then....shoot, charge, shoot, charge...repeat. I sold the gun, after I disclosed it's behavior, and never looked back. Also, sometimes when I unholstered the weapon, the front sight would come off. There are much better .22 pistols for the $$$.
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Hanzerik
May 23, 2007, 12:34 AM
I shoot what I own, which at the moment is a AR and an XD-9. I sold/traded off all my other weapons because I didn't like having so many different calibers to buy. I am planing on another 22 Pistol and rifle though. And maybe a XD-SC in 9mm...and maybe another AR upper in a different configuration then the one I have. Dang it, it never ends.
TCB in TN
May 23, 2007, 01:20 AM
I have owned many different .22 pistols over the years, and for the money I would go with the Ruger MkII or MkIII. Very solid shooting pistols. I like the Browning Buckmark just as well but around here they sell for about $100 more. Very good value for the money.
shc1
May 23, 2007, 06:57 AM
skip the P22
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I have a Walther P22 - I say forget about it.
It's not very good.... I regret buying it.
Same with mine. Tried to get a refund but got a replacement instead.
The replacement didn’t work either, right up until it broke. Got tired of shipping back just as much as I took it jamming/shooting.
Some folks say they are great and I wish them well, I’m done with Walther and SW.
-terry
May 23, 2007, 11:16 AM
When I go to the range, I typically take either my 9mm or my 45, but I ALWAYS take my Buck Mark .22. It's just so relaxing to shoot. It's nice when the hole in the target is pretty much where you wanted it to be. :)
Springfield_1911SS
May 23, 2007, 04:18 PM
1911 in .45
mlandman
May 23, 2007, 04:27 PM
PM9
or
USPc9
or
M&P9
...do we have a pattern here? ;)
Chuhhuniban
May 23, 2007, 04:54 PM
1911 in .45
And in 10 mm and .38 Super. And S&W 1006s and 4506. Occasional trips with a Sig P220 in .45 and an old, old Dan Wesson .357 revolver.
WayneConrad
May 23, 2007, 05:19 PM
I shoot everything I have, but nothing gets the workout that any of my .22 rifles get.
If I had a .22 pistol, I'd bring it, too.
ArmedBear
May 23, 2007, 05:31 PM
Ruger 22/45
Browning Buckmark
Ruger Single Six
These guns shoot very well, last forever, and are neither too cheap to be high-quality, nor too expensive to be worth the asking price.
I shoot all sorts of things, even black powder revolvers indoors. But if you're looking around for a .22 that will be fun, good for practice, top-quality, and not a bank-account-buster, it's hard to beat one of those.:)
whatbrick
May 23, 2007, 05:38 PM
The range I shoot at charges by the gun, so I just take my Glock 21. The fact that I can change it to shoot three different calibers (.22lr, .45ACP, 10mm) just makes it the better choice overall.
FieroCDSP
May 23, 2007, 05:59 PM
I had an interesting experience with my P22 today. For what it's worth, it's no dime-shooter. For defense practice, it'll work just fine. Anyway, my story....
I haven't cleaned the thing in three weeks, which includes two shooting sessions of more than 250 rounds each time. I cleaned it last night, even lubing the mags some because they felt gritty. I went to the range today and went to fire. Click. I've had a lot of Fail to strip problems with one of the mags, but only on the first two rounds. I went to the other mag and it did the same thing.
Most of you say "well, that's what we're talking about". Well, after I coaxed 100 rounds through it, the feed issues cleared up. Maybe the thing likes being dirty.
MrBorland
May 23, 2007, 08:40 PM
Right now, I'm shooting my 4" S&W 617 .22LR and 4" 686 .357Mag. Typical session is 300-350 .22LR, 50 .38spl, and a few .357Mags.
MrBorland
May 23, 2007, 08:48 PM
I was thinking either a Smith & Wesson 22 LR or a Walther P22?? What do you recommend or preference??
I really like my .22 revolver, but if I were to spring for a semi-auto .22LR, there are a number I like and shoot well, with the S&W 41 being one of them.
10-Ring
May 23, 2007, 09:25 PM
I used to take several guns to the range...now, I don't like cleaning them all, so I only bring one...maybe 2 and it's usually my current house gun. Now if I go long gunning, I'll bring'em all because I don't have a nearby long gun range so it's a while between sessions and make a day out of it.
wanderinwalker
May 23, 2007, 10:25 PM
For .22s, I have lots of experience with:
Ruger 22/45 Mk III
Ruger Mk II
Ruger Single-Six
Beretta 21A :barf:
The Rugers are Rugers. Well built for the price, accurate, reliable, durable. I shoot the 22/45 at the rate of about a brick every two/three weeks and don't expect to wear it out. Ever.
The Single-Six is the latest acquisition and mucho fun to shoot, albeit at a much slower pace. I also suspect this one will not get many range trips when it's below freezing as the SA loading is too difficult for me with those little cartridges and gloved hands.
The Mark II was father's gun, for a long time, until he traded it for a new 22/45 Mk III. It needed a sight adjustment and didn't seem to shoot quite as well as the 22/45s have, but it was fun and more reliable than the newer pistols IMO. I think it has something to do with the magazines used between the two frames.
The Beretta? Well, it's a small "carry" gun and not meant for high-volume shooting, IMO. It was lots of fun at first, but after a few bricks it was an unreliable jam-o-matic, no matter how clean it was and what it was fed. Oh well, gone now. These seem to be hit-or-miss, good-or-bad. Take your luck, but it's not much fun as an afternoon plinking pistol.
Never have tried a Buckmark, but I've never read or heard anything bad about them. S&Ws are supposed to be pretty good too. Or a High Standard. Mmmmm.... High Standard.... :D
And others get shot regularly, but I've been too lazy to reload much lately, so the .22s get the #1 slot 90% of the time.
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