[Dgreno]

Now I know I am probably opening a can of worms by bringing up the controversial name of Hi-Point but I have to tell my story.
My first handgun was a Hi-point C9. It was a good little gun and still is. I started having some problems with it that I could not figure out, i.e., failure to release the firing pin 50% of the time when the trigger was pulled. I called up Hi-point (DBA Beemiller) in Ohio and spoke to a person who told me to hurry up because she got off at 11:00 (it was 10:50 AM):confused:. I told her my problem and she told me where and how to send it in. That aside, I sent it in UPS on a Tuesday and I decided to call on Thursday to check on it. The same lady told me it had been received and work was being done, she was nicer this time I might add. She then told me that it would be shipped back to me tomorrow (Friday). I got the gun on the following Monday and much to my surprise, and joy, the gun was almost brand new. They replaced all the internals (I mean everything right down to the trigger and mag release button) and the slide. I essentially had a brand new gun!! All I got back was the barrel and the frame. Now I know Hi-point is not the best quality wise and I have added to my arsenal since I first got the Hi-point but this experience completely blew me away. They now have my trust warranty wise. Just thought Id share...
Dave

[Mooseman]

I love my 45, it has it's faults but it's awesome for what it is and costs. I wish they'd come out with the 45 carbine.

[foghornl]

Hi-Points are certainly not the most AP {Aesthetically Pleasing} firearms out there, but they go Bang! on request. Hi-Point service is top-notch if you need it.

I would rather face a Bad Guy with a Hi-Point in my fist instead of a rock.

I'm also waiting for them to release the .45ACP carbine.

[New_geezer]

I forget who it was, but IMO the fairest take on Hi-Points I've read called them the lowest priced gun of acceptable quality to be used as a home defense weapon. The warranty experience you described seems to be typical of Hi-Point, and the fact that it's a lifetime warranty against the gun regardless of owner make them a reasonable value for the price. Personally I'd rather save and get something more standard but I wouldn't fault anyone whose circumstances made them buy a Hi-Point.

[czbegenner]

I own a high point and have fired it at the range,it's ok i just got it to keep in my car when i am out at night going to work,store etc.The only problem i had
was the clip would not stay in,but as i bought another clip i solved this problem.I bought this weapon because i had to sell all my others to pay a bill(never again) I had a K.B.I 380(can't find that one anymore??,Mack90(can't find that one either),then when i started working for the police department of a small town,i bought a 357 ruger security six police.I just bought the High Point because i did not have any guns in the house.Now i am buying a rem870,
And a CZ 75bd police 9mm,once purchased i will put the high point away for last resort.

[Carl N. Brown]

I have never owned a Hi-Point but I know those who do
own both Hi-Point handguns and that pug-ugly carbine.
In fact, I shot a friend's Hi-Point carbine. The more I shot
it, the better it looked; it was absolutely beautiful by the
time I was through. Hi-Point works: reliable and accurate,
at a very reasonable price, with excellant after-the-sale
support from the company. (That pistol is still pug-ugly to me.)

I am willing to surmise Dgreno's pistol was torn down and
rebuilt as part of a product evaluation and improvement
policy at the factory. That is the only way I can explain
such an inexpensive gun having such a reputation for
reliability.

[Dgreno]

I have to be honest here. I did not expect to get 5 responses in praise of Hi-point. I am actually surprised!! Thanks for the thoughts guys!
Dave

[obxned]

A year ago I would have sworn on a stack of Bibles that I would never, ever own a Hi-Point. Since then I have shot several at the range.

They are not pretty, and feel top-heavy to me. I've not seen one jam though, and in spite of a rather ratty trigger, they still hit where I point them. I'm now giving serious thought to buying a compact 9mm to play with at the range.

I also recommended Hi-Points to one of my sons. He is just starting a family and a business and is on a very tight budget.

[czbegenner]

one thing is that they stand behind there weapon,Still will be getting into the CZ area,but for now the next two months it's HighPoint away to work,away in the car.A lot of people make fun of me because of the high point,but if you don't have a lot of money(it will do) anyone found a K.B.I 380 YET? please tell me where i can buy one

[czbegenner]

See Dgreno if you ask they will answer(smile)

[denfoote]

I ain't gonna get into it!!
I've told the story to many times as it is!!

High Point: :barf::barf::barf:

[czbegenner]

But you have to understand somepeople cant afford the high dollar weapons,so until they are able,they have to go with this.Now if the company
would do more and upgrade they might become a better weapon.

[tostada]

They're just sooooo ugly. But the carbine is ugly in a cool way, and with the ATI stock it's pretty sexy.

I don't own a Hi-Point, but I have noticed that 99% of the negative feedback for them is coming from people who seem to have never owned or shot one.

The only real problems I've heard anybody talk about with them is the higher cap mags have feeding issues. They should just make guns (or at least the carbines) that take Glock/S&W/Beretta/Sig clips like the Kel-Tec carbine.

[czbegenner]

I guess it's like someone who hasn't tried tranning k-9's they look at it from a distance and say woo but once you get into the tranning its not so bad.Somepeople talk without knowing truly about the subject.it's not the look
but if it will do the job that is what counts.You can see a car that looks good but if that tranmission is shot it's no good.Take WWII Shermans did not look good,werent that good aganist the tigers but what happen,it got the job done.

[Mooseman]

Hey Tostada, who's making high cap mags for them? When, and if they ever release the 45 carbine I'd love to be able to put a high cap mag on it.

[chris in va]

I've had my carbine for a couple years. It's been so-so in the reliability department, but had to send it back 3 times for various reasons.

I will say this, if it weren't for the lifetime warranty, they wouldn't sell nearly as many.

[czbegenner]

thats true lifetime warranty anyone know where i can find a K.B.I. 380,see i had one before and i would realy like another.Its somthing about overseas weapons and the triggers?hum

[johndoe1027]

czbegenner, try posting a thread for your request. You'll get more traffic of people who know what you are talking about.

also, not be a terminology nazi but.....
magazines (mags) feed semi-auto weapons, clips do not. Some rifle mags can use stripper clips to load the mags but that's all. :steps down off of his soapbox:

sorry

[czbegenner]

Hello guys i am looking for a K.B.I 380 I had one once and kinda like it as a back up.

[Im283]

I own a Hi-Point .40S&W. It is a great gun for $179. It goes bang and shoots very straight. Kind of big to carry but none-the-less a lot of fun to shoot.

I had some FTE problems in the first couple hundred rounds but since then, over 500 rounds no troubles at all.

Is it the best gun in own? Well no, but it is worth owning. I enjoy shooting it and to me that is all that matters.

[atomd]

Hello guys i am looking for a K.B.I 380 I had one once and kinda like it as a back up.

Here's one on gunbroker. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=73080343

Do a search online for "SMC-380" or "FEG SMC-380" instead of KBI, you'll get more hits. KBI is the importer. Oh, and if you want more info, start a new thread instead of a reply. :)

[Geister]

I don't own a Hi-Point, but I have noticed that 99% of the negative feedback for them is coming from people who seem to have never owned or shot one.

I don't need to own or drive a Yugo or a Ford Fiesta to know that I would never want to own one. Hi-Points might be good guns but it's a brand name I would not be proud to own.

Too many thugs use Hi-Points; it's like malt liquor to me.

[B yond]

No matter your price range, a no-questions-asked 100% warrantied handgun can't possibly be a bad thing.

I'm happy with my Hi-Point.

[STAGE 2]

It is what it is. If you can afford better then get it. If you can't its better than a sharp stick... sometimes.

[KD7ONE]

I have always been a firm believer that looks don't always get the job done. While Hi-point is not the best looking gun, it sure does get the job done. And if it doesn't, you can always use the lifetime warrenty to fix that problem.

I'll be buying one soon.

[Ohioan]

I own a highpoint carbine. I have problems with it jamming on the 3rd round in each of the magazines I own. I don't shoot it that often so I havn't tried to fix it.


Now, the gun store I frequent is always busy. I've never had to wait less than 10 minutes to even handle a firearm. Every time I've been in that place I've seen someone purchase a High Point. I'd venture to say they sell more High Points than they do Wilson, Kimber, SW, HK, Sig, or Glock.

They're in a.... uhm.. not so nice of area.. There are a lot of hoodlums running around. Everyone walks out of the store looking around with their hand on their hips (or pockets, depending on where they're concealing).

But, you can't beat their prices on new guns!!


They sell a lot of high points.

[Geister]

a no-questions-asked 100% warrantied handgun can't possibly be a bad thing.

So does Taurus but I don't really want to buy a Taurus because I don't want to have to ship the gun to Brazil. I'd rather have quality to begin with.

[worker]

had used their customer service for full frame 9mm.
It jamed with S&B 9mm ammo (and that's the only one I have)

I sent it to them with the jammed case (it fails to extract)

They did something, sent it back it still jams though, may be not as often.

I certainly do not mind the looks, and I can shoot with better than anything else (because the sights radius is so long, and the barrel is fixed)

If it would not have jammed once in a while, I would have loved it, as I like the price, the service, the company (seems like an honest bunch of people) and the utiletarian concept behind it.

[CajunBass]

I got a Hi-Point 9mm pistol a couple of years ago, to see if they were as bad as "everyone" said they were. A couple thousand rounds later, I've come to the conclusion that at least mine isn't. It's jammed a couple of times, but not enough that I can say it was the guns fault. For all I know there might have been something wrong with the ammo, or maybe there was just a Gremlin around that day.

However, one thing I have noticed is the change in the tone of "Hi-Point" threads. Two years ago most people ripped them a new one. They were junk. They'd blow up in your hand, You couldn't hit a barn from inside with one, etc., etc.. There were a few people who said they worked, but they were far and away the minority.

Today the trend seems to have reversed. More and more people are saying they work, and those who critisize them either have never shot one, or like a couple of posters here, had a bad experience with them in the past. Perhaps the company learned from their failures and have correct a lot of the problems because most people here, and on the Hi-Point forum, seem to be happy with them.

I don't shoot my Hi-Point much anymore. I may never shoot it again. I proved to myself at least they put a decent product at a very attractive price. Not perfect by any means, but decent. I've just got other, newer and "better" guns now and I just don't have time/money to shoot 'em all, so the Hi-Point is way in the back of the "sock drawer."

But if the Zombies were taking over the neighborhood, and all the neighbors fell back to my house to make the last stand, you can bet one of 'em would get the Hi-Point, and he'd get a few of them before they got him.

[GaryArkansas]

I've got a High Point and the warranty service was fast and "no questions asked."

[czbegenner]

I am going to the range next saturday with my yes, high point 9mm,and rem 870 shotgun,right now i am cleaning the rem.

[worker]

Put another 100 or so rounds through the Hi-Point 9mm comp (full size model with compensator) a few hours ago. Had a box of Remington UMC 115gr, another of CCI 90gr and S&B 115 gr frangible.

No problem at all with the Remington or CCI, but
always a problem with S&B .. it simply does not give enough power to cycle back the slide.
My wife routinely puts two shots into the same hole, every 10 shots with Hi-Point. The sights and the controlable recoil are excellent, very consistent performance for us.

I had it sent once back to Hi-point because it did not
eject right all the time.... Very nice customer service.
But now I am thinking it was
probably S&B ammo -- as that's the thing that I have
been shooting for the last 3 years (as I had lots of it)...
Anyways, after I got it back (it was more than two years ago), no problems ever with non S&B ammo.

[czbegenner]

Guys i don't know what it is i went to the range last friday? and took my high-point 9mm and tried to fire it,Nothing happen(the triger wont pull) whats wrong?Ive never had any trouble before.

[worker]

The only time the trigger does not pull on a 9mm comp
if the side safety is engaged.

Since this is the first time you took it to the range in some time, do you remember if you did any cleaning/disassembly on it? May be something was not put back
together right...

but anyways, since you their guns come with life-time
warranty and support. Call
http://www.mkssupply.com/contact/MKS_contact.html (them)

Nothing happen(the triger wont pull) whats wrong?Ive never had any trouble before.

[czbegenner]

Yea,your right will send it back to the company,let them work on it.

[TEDDY]

I bought a hi-point few years back.took it to the range [50 ft indoor]shot it cleaned the 9/10 rings.decided to shoot my reloads.terrible.called dealer lead would not work.shoots only jacket bullets.hard lead may work.for $79 new its very reliable.some people hate any thing that does not cost a lot.like Lee products.I have colts /S&W/ruger/savage pistols.I take care of them and they take care of me.police used to carry ravens as backup as they worked. and were inexpensive.
:):uhoh::confused::)

[czbegenner]

i guess i will send it off this week and wait till it gets back,i got my ruger 357
to carry in my car(well its not easy to conceal under a shirt as the high-point)
But it will have to do for now.

[Tom Servo]

We sell quite a few. I'd usually bite my own tongue off before recommending any gun that's $120, but we've never heard any complaints.

Certainly no winners in the look-and-feel department, but they seem to get the job done.

Here's one for the 1911 crowd:

http://lonelymachines.org/guns/hi-point.jpg

[czbegenner]

How much is that one going for,i might want one latter,after i get my Glock 40
in

[defjon]

LOL.


That picture should be ILLEGAL.

[Tom Servo]

That picture should be ILLEGAL.
Probably will be once Hi-Point's lawyers see it :rolleyes:

[TheDisturbed1]

Probably will be once Hi-Point's lawyers see it

lol not if they malfuntion before they reach the courthouse!

[czbegenner]

oh well waiting for my high-point to get back from the factory

[Geno]

I have the 9MM carbine and love it! I posted a thread:

"The Little Carbine that Could"

In that thread, I asked for all feedback, good and bad. I wanted to hear why people did buy the Hi Point, and why people did not buy it. The overwhelming majority of feedback was highly positive.

I'll go on the record and state, and you can all quote me, "Having owned 15 Kimber 1911s, I'll buy an additional Hi Point before I will buy an additiional Kimber."

:what: Them's fightin' words! But, I mean that seriously.

[TimboKhan]

I have argued in the past against hi-points, but to be honest, I just realized that I was being something of a snob. I can honestly say that I have no plans now, or ever, to buy one, but I can also honestly say that I have never talked to anyone who has been let down by them.

Too many thugs use Hi-Points; it's like malt liquor to me

In defense of hi-points, and malt liqour I guess, I would simply point out that what is commonly percieved as a thug is in reality just another American excersizing their second amendment rights, for better or for worse. Do bad guys use hi-points? Yes, but they are just as likely to use Glocks, Tauri, Beretta or Rugers. Further, looking like a thug does not make you a thug. Being a responsible gun owner does not entail a dress code.