[Greg8098]

I was surfing through the DoubleTap website lately and see that they are now offering .44 Magnum +p ammo. The stuff is outrageously hot ::evil:!! I know that Buffalo Bore already offered .44 Mag +p+ for a while now. Has anyone ever fired any rounds like this before??? Just what do you use stuff like that for anyway. I've gotta try it. Also, is this the true .44 Magnum loading back from the 1950's ???

[roscoe]

I have fired the heavy DoubleTap .45LC 335 grain hardcast loads (1350 fps, or so) in my Blackhawk. Yes, they make a loud noise and the pistol jumps just a little bit. They are for shooting hard things, like dump trucks, or toothy thngs, like veloceraptors.

[envonge]

Hello,

I have fired Buffalo Bore .44 mag 340gr +p+ hardcasts and they have quite alot of power to them compared to normal .44 mag loads.

Picture of .44 mag and .44 mag +P+
http://208.122.8.190/IMG_0021.jpg

[Stainz]

If you need more oomph than standard .44 Magnums, it is time to go to something inherently more powerful - like a .454 Casull. This is the best choice for any 'power' level - why batter a good gun at a '+P' level, when a hotter caliber offers even more capability - and safely, too?

The only concession to this I will ever make is the 'usual' +P .38 S&W Special offerings - like the Remi R38S12 158gr LSWCHP or Speer 135gr GDJHP - both little warmer than standard fare a half century back - and generally safe in any modern .38.

I am approached regularly by a guy at the range to 'try' his latest .38 offerings. When questioned, he generally states something like '... the book calls for up to 3.5gr - I was already set up at 4.0 gr - it shouldn't hurt anything!'. No thanks. I wouldn't shoot that in his gun. I don't see the need for 'hot-rodding' a round... but, I had a .454 SRH for years... must have gotten that recoil-wanderluss out of my system.

Of course, there is always that .500 Magnum...

Stainz

PS Am I the only nut that looks at a .44 Magnum revolver as another way to launch my 692 fps 240gr LSWC .44 Russians??

[envonge]

I also shoot .44 russians from my .44 magnum. The 340gr +P+ has alot more recoil than the standard .44 magnum rounds I shoot which are 240gr.

I also shoot .454, .460 and .500 and they are all very nice however quite abit more expensive than .44 magnum.

[Walkalong]

must have gotten that recoil-wanderluss out of my system.
Me too. Most of the time. Can't take a lot of it anymore.
PS Am I the only nut that looks at a .44 Magnum revolver as another way to launch my 692 fps 240gr LSWC .44 Russians??
Nope. Too bad someone won't make a nice revolver in .44 Russian though. I prefer not to shoot the short cases in longer chambers. .44 Russian is a fun round. :)

[bakert]

Since most of my shooting is at an indoor range that doesn't even allow full power .44 mag rds, most of my reloads are downloaded to hot .44 Sp levels, although I do get somewhere to shoot some full power loads occasionally. On a personal level, if I have to shoot at something that requires more killing than the normal full power .44 mag will handle, I aint messing with the sucker!!:D

[vanilla_gorilla]

I have found that I shoot much better with a .44 Magnum -P. Yep, a minus P. Speers 200 grain Gold Dot at ~1100fps makes me look like I can actually shoot. A handloaded 250 grain Keith SWC at a thousand fps does the same, and my hand isn't pounding at the end of a hundred rounds.

[Scotticus]

I've shot a few Corbon .44 Mag 260 gr. hunting loads in a 14" T/C Contender. The ballistics (1450FPS and 1214FT-LBS from an ~8" barrel) are significantly higher than standard .44 mags. The first time I touched one off, it actually knocked me back 3 steps.

[Geister]

Stainz has the right idea. I see no point of using a .44 Magnum +P when you can just as easily use a .454 Casull.

[Bearhands]

ohhhhhhhhh for the love of the bigger bang! LOL. Each caliber has it's up's and down's. I just wish mfgr's would stop trying to re-invent the wheel and stick with loads that are meant for the gun shooting them. It has become like politics... "this one gives us....... " and this one has a bigger influence..... " and then there's "this one who supposedly has it all"...... "I know a guy who thinks he/she/it is the greatest!" <yawwn> .....

[GigaBuist]

I see no point of using a .44 Magnum +P when you can just as easily use a .454 Casull.

Lever guns? That's the only thing I can think of.

[GRIZ22]

If you need more oomph than standard .44 Magnums, it is time to go to something inherently more powerful

That would be a rifle as far as I'm concerned.

Standard 44 Mags are too much for a carry gun unless you plan on running into a bear.

I have found that I shoot much better with a .44 Magnum -P. Yep, a minus P. Speers 200 grain Gold Dot at ~1100fps makes me look like I can actually shoot. A handloaded 250 grain Keith SWC at a thousand fps does the same, and my hand isn't pounding at the end of a hundred rounds.

I agree and a much more sensible approach for a standard carry load.

[Richard.Howe]

I see no point of using a .44 Magnum +P when you can just as easily use a .454 Casull.

How about a pistol that can shoot cheap 44 Special, 44 Magnum, and 454-level 44 mag +P? And a lever companion that can eat the same ammo? I like my 44's for their flexiblity...which is not one of the Casull's most endearing traits.

YMMV,
Rich

[Mainsail]

I see no point of using a .44 Magnum +P when you can just as easily use a .454 Casull.
Well, they don't fit for one thing. Are you suggesting someone just run out and buy another handgun? That's not always an option.

[wcwhitey]

Another vote for mild mannered .44 mag's. I load plated 200 grain fps' at 1100 fps in the mag and 850 fps in the special. Keith semi-wadcutters at 950 fps in the special are tack drivers and probably more than enough for most jobs. Once in a while I will load up to full house maggies but not very often, usually before hunting season and I will load 100 to sight in and then take afield. I have to thank my Super Blackhawk for introducing me to the .44 Special, probably one of the best shooting, most accurate and easy to reload cartridges going. I have been meaning to try some of the 300 Grain Hardcast rounds with some handloads, not because I wanted to push them to +P levels just to have a decent 1000 FPS super penetrator big game option.

[scbair]

Most of my .44 magnum shooting is with .44 Specials, or 200 gr. maggies. However, I did purchase a box of CorBon 320 gr. hard cast rounds a couple of years ago. I sometimes carry a 4-5/8" bbl Ruger Bisley Vaquero on my belt when roamin' swamps that are also inhabited by wild & feral hogs. I've never been attacked by one of these tuskers, but . . .

I fired a cylinder, and they're minut-of-porker accurate at 5-10 yards (can't see much farther than that, in the Dixie swamps, anyway :what: and if I do spot the critter at longer range, we'll likely just avoid each other).

I'm not gonna invest in a.454, .480, or whatever, and a back brace ease the pain of hauling a monster revolver around. These heavy .44s do recoil, but they're certainly not unbearable in the all-steel single-action (nothing like the ultra light .357s, for example - OUCH!).