Under 21 pistol ownership...


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Moparmike
June 22, 2003, 07:55 PM
I know I can own a pistol under 21 (I turn 20 in July), but how can I go about obtaining one? Is it a gift scenario, or what?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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TheMariner
June 22, 2003, 08:35 PM
from what I understand, KY law, atleast does not forbade the ownership of a pistol but the purchase of one is illegal under Fed law... its like buying cigarettes... you can smoke, you just can't buy... go figure...

AK law I'm not unp to date on but the Fed law says nothign about a person UNDER the age of 21 but over 18 owning a pistol...

Thumper
June 22, 2003, 09:01 PM
I was gifted my first Single-Six for my 8th birthday in Stamps, Arkansas.

synoptic
June 22, 2003, 09:50 PM
Federal law is that you must be 21 to buy a pistol from an FFL Dealer. A personal transaction or gift is not part of this law i.e. you can buy a gun from a friend or a parent or whomever so long as it is not going through an FFL.

No person may sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer a handgun or ammunition suitable only for a handgun to someone the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is under the age of eighteen. 18 U.S.C. § 922(x)(1).

A federally licensed firearms dealer may not sell any firearm except a shotgun or rifle to any person whom the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to believe is under the age of 21. 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(1).


http://www.firearmslawcenter.org/content/federallawsummary.asp#FirearmsRegulations

So, it is definitely possible, but remember, pistol caliber ammunition falls under this category as well. So you will need help buying ammo too.

Moparmike
June 22, 2003, 10:02 PM
Thanks for your replies. Are pawn brokers also FFL's? Do they have to be FFL's?

Thanks,

makdaddy03
June 23, 2003, 12:33 AM
Its illegal in Alabama.

cordex
June 23, 2003, 12:37 AM
Pawn brokers are FFLs if they sell guns legally.

CHECK LOCAL LAWS before making a purchase.

Hereabouts, I can buy, own and carry pre-21 as long as I don't buy from an FFL. Go figure.

Standing Wolf
June 23, 2003, 11:34 PM
If you're old enough to vote, pay taxes, sign legally binding contracts, serve in the armed forces, et cetera, it seems to me you're old enough to enjoy the freedoms of the whole Bill of Rights.

Moparmike
June 24, 2003, 01:00 AM
Unfortunately, people with your mindset arent included in the powers that be.

doctorhumbert
June 24, 2003, 10:02 AM
Ask your parent to buy you one would be best way to go. Just be careful you do not conceal carry it or keep it in the vehicle loaded. Always transport it unloaded in the storage box, in case you get your car searched. Once you become 21, get CCW permit.

Ian
June 24, 2003, 11:01 AM
I don't know about Arkansas law, but here in Colorado I can be given a pistol as a gift, buy one from a non-FFL (and anybody selling guns from a storefront will have an FFL), or buy a cap-and-ball pistol from anyone. Getting one as a gift is the easiest method.

Once you have it, you can possess it (as long as you're 18). In Colorado, you can also carry it openly, and carry it open or concealed in your car. Technically, you can't buy ammunition for it until you're 21, but (aside from WalMart) i've never had a store ask for my ID, much less refuse me a sale because I'm underage.

In Indiana, you can get a CCW at age 18 as well. Again, I don't know about Arkansas.

Matt1911
June 24, 2003, 03:35 PM
Here in Indiana,you can get your handgun permit at 18. I'll be buying my son his choice next feb.as a gift.

Navy joe
June 24, 2003, 03:40 PM
Buy a '58 Remington replica from Cabelas. It's not a firearm according to the Feds :D

Ian
June 24, 2003, 05:13 PM
Buy a '58 Remington replica from Cabelas. It's not a firearm according to the Feds And then pick up a .45 Long Colt conversion cylinder from R&D Gun Shop (5728 E County RD X, Beloit, WI 53511-9546). Poof! A big ol' centerfire pistol that's still not legally a 'firearm.' :evil:

Hutch
June 24, 2003, 05:36 PM
Uh, MakDaddy, unless the law has changed recently, it is NOT illegal for someone under 21 to possess a handgun in AL. I've seen a 20-year old with a CCW permit in Birmingham.

jeff4570
June 25, 2003, 07:07 AM
In CT you can get a carry permit at 18 but you cant buy one from anyone until you are 21.

Ala Dan
June 26, 2003, 08:13 AM
Greeting's All-

I'm 16 miles SSW of Bombingham, AL and my
daughter has had a CCW license since the
age of 18; but me, myself, and I being in
police work might have helped-I dunno?

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Nightfall
June 26, 2003, 09:37 AM
We are able to own high powered rifles at 18, but supposedly handguns are extra evil, so we have to wait another few years. :rolleyes:

At least to buy from a FFL dealer. :D

Salpalinja
June 26, 2003, 09:44 AM
Here it is 15 years with legal guardians permission and otherwise 18 years.

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