[Skunkabilly]

Bwahahhaah!!! REEEHAWWWW!!!!!!

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=340895

This one's easy c'mon... :D

[Duke of Lawnchair]

Cocked 'n Locked?

CYBYWY

[Skunkabilly]

CYBYWY

CCCCWWWWWWW

[Shake]

No carbon fiber grips?

:D

Shake

[Combat-wombat]

I've only used a beretta once, don't laugh if I'm wrong.
The decocking lever is down and the gun should be decocked?
BTW, what does CYBYWY mean?

[Kevlarman]

No decocker?

CYBYWY = cover your butt, you white yankee? :D

[Skunkabilly]

The decocking lever is down and the gun should be decocked?

Yep. This rotates the firing pin plunger (?) off the hole thingy so if the hammer falls, half cock doesn't catch and the firing pin block somehow disengages, it still just hits bare steel. Mechanically, very safe. The safety is very fast to flick off if you think of disengaging it by pushing FORWARD and not UP.

BTW, what does CYBYWY mean

CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF!!!

:D

[10-Ring]

Cocked & Rocked??? :D SkunkabiRRy must be a happy camper!

Hey, if you're making more gun porn, I want to see the entire pistol!!! ;)

[MJRW]

Its got no barrel and only half a grip. What do I win?

[Master Blaster]

I have a 92FS compact, if you put the safety on and then rack the slide the hammer will remain cocked. When you rotate the safety to the off position the hammer will fall.

Never tested if the gun would fire though (pencil test) it should not since the trigger acctuated firing pin safety will be off, since your finger is not on the trigger (hopefully).

So you racked the slide after you put the safety on Right???

[drannor]

The decocking function my 92FS almost necessitated a change of shorts the first time I used it. I'm used to the newer progressive style SIG decockers where you can manually control the forward movement of the hammer. The click BANG of the hammer on the Beretta made me jump!

[Logistar]

When mine was new it would look just like the picture. If you racked it with the safety on the hammer would stay back unless you "barely touched it". Then it would fall (harmlessly). I have not noticed it doing that anymore lately.

Logistar

[E357]

Master Blaster - Are you sure that the Beretta is fully in battery? If I lower the slide by hand it appears as if it is in batterry with the hammer cocked. It is not! Pressing the trigger will drop the hammer, but the gun won't fire. When fully in battery the hammer will fall, but because the firing pin is in two parts - with the rear rotated down the falling hammer has nothing to hit and the gun can't fire. Hold the hammer back and rotate the safety, you'll see what I mean.

Elliot

[George Hill]

That isn't an LTT hammer. :scrutiny:

[cool45auto]

No its not, George! I wish I had a digital camera to show what mine looks like with its skeletonized hammer! AAARRRGGHHHH!:cuss:

[clange]

My 92FS will not leave the hammer cocked if you rack it on safe. However, if you dont let the slide forward with enough force it will stay about 1/8 inch out of battery with the hammer back. Setting it with a bit more force will decock it.

How does one convert theirs to do that though? I've heard plenty about it but never actually read any details. I'd like mine to be that way.

[George Hill]

I think skunkie's Vertec is screwed... it's doing this while also randomly dropping the hammer with the slide... This is catagorically uncool.
Skunk, I suggest replacing or repairing this gun. It's brand spanking new, so maybe your gunshop can help you with this or at least facilitate the shipping for you. Maybe they would be willing to just trade it out for you. I know that is rare but one shop did this for me when I had a defective pistol. Without charging me anything else. (GREEN TOP Sporting Goods Rt 1 North of Richmond VA - BEST gunshop in Virginia)
Or just send it to LTT have the gun reworked by the Master. It might be a simple thing. Or parts might need to be replaced.

But have it looked at, at least.

[10-Ring]

Hey Skunk, is she (name unknown by the way!) going to LTT for some TLC?

[faustulus]

Admit it Skunk, this is the only way you can scratch that Stock/Combat itch. :)
At least until Beretta deems us poor American Slobs worthy to hold their golden chaliace.

[Skunkabilly]

10-ring
Hey, if you're making more gun porn, I want to see the entire pistol!!!

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=342261


MJRW
Its got no barrel and only half a grip. What do I win?

A Vertec 92FC? :D

Master Blaster
So you racked the slide after you put the safety on Right???

No. On a 92FS, if you rack the slide and put the gun back into battery, the hammer will fall. I disengaged the part where when the safety hits the bar, the bar drops the hammer. Essentially, just disengaging the decock.

Logistar
When mine was new it would look just like the picture. If you racked it with the safety on the hammer would stay back unless you "barely touched it". Then it would fall (harmlessly). I have not noticed it doing that anymore lately.

Not going fully into battery?


clange
How does one convert theirs to do that though? I've heard plenty about it but never actually read any details. I'd like mine to be that way.

Call BUSA parts and order the 'D-spacer'. This part replaces the bar that decocks the gun.


George Hill
Skunk, I suggest replacing or repairing this gun. It's brand spanking new, so maybe your gunshop can help you with this or at least facilitate the shipping for you.

I fixed it. I put in a spring backwards, the one that makes the thingy catch on the cock notches (sear??) I had it facing the wrong way. It's fixed now but haven't test fired it. It wasn't catching on the half-cock before but it is now.

10-Ring
Hey Skunk, is she (name unknown by the way!) going to LTT for some TLC?

Not just yet. Haven't found a name because really I'm not that attached to the gun yet.



faustulus
Admit it Skunk, this is the only way you can scratch that Stock/Combat itch.
At least until Beretta deems us poor American Slobs worthy to hold their golden chaliace.

Yeah no kidding, or I find a job out of state and score a Billenium.

[E357]

Please Explain Slowly:

Are what you guys saying that if I take my "Hammer Release Lever" (Part C554050) from my FS and replace it with "Spacer" (part C 99005) from the DS model what I'll wind up with is as follows:

MY Beretta will not decock the hammer, but since the firing pin is rotated out of the way by the safety it will keep the gun from firing although the hammer will drop when you press the trigger. And when I want the gun to firing I just flip it off safe.

This sounds kind of cool, scary looking though.

Elliot

[cool45auto]

E357: You got it. It's not any scarier than a cocked and locked 45. If you don't want to shoot don't flip the safety or touch the trigger.:cool:

[clange]

So the trigger will still work when the safe is on? I understand theres no real way for it to fire. I assume you can still cock it (while on safe) if such a thing happened?

[doctorhumbert]

The cocked and locked 92 FS practice seems pretty safe to me. Especially when firing pin is completely blocked. Though I am not sure if cocked and locked Beretta would be faster to engage than simple double action shot.

[E357]

I don't think the point is that it's faster to engage, but that you don't have that DA/SA transition. Since the hammer can still fall a better term might be "cocked and safe."

Elliot

[Skunkabilly]

Are what you guys saying that if I take my "Hammer Release Lever" (Part C554050) from my FS and replace it with "Spacer" (part C 99005) from the DS model what I'll wind up with is as follows:

MY Beretta will not decock the hammer, but since the firing pin is rotated out of the way by the safety it will keep the gun from firing although the hammer will drop when you press the trigger. And when I want the gun to firing I just flip it off safe.

This sounds kind of cool, scary looking though.

What c00l9mm said...mechanically, I think it's pretty safe. You can still decock the gun w/ the trigger *IF* you needed to....I don't have any use for a decock though.

Between that and my 92G I can't really tell a difference since i'm slowly prepping the trigger on the draw anyway. It is nice having the trigger in the same spot all the time though and not having the transition.

[10-Ring]

It is nice having the trigger in the same spot all the time though and not having the transition.


Looks like Skunk has made a new friend :D Let the accessorizing begin!

[Skunkabilly]

Accessorizing? I'm going to see if I can keep this gun on $3.36 of accessories. If I can't drive the dots then I'll put new sights, but I don't even know if this one is getting a trigger job...