The Arabian VIPER... Any good???
New_comer
June 23, 2003, 08:44 AM
Saw one at auction for $120. May make for a good HD back-up or toolbox gun...
http://www.kaddb.com/pictures/1232003183134518.jpg
http://kaddb.com/pictures/34200335418125.JPG
8 rds of 38super or 9mm. I think there's a barrel change option...
Anybody with experience with this? Most probably those who've been assigned in the Mid-east one time or another...
Wud appreciate your inputs ;)
If you enjoyed reading about "The Arabian VIPER... Any good???" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join
TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
New_comer
June 23, 2003, 11:07 AM
I just noticed... :scrutiny:
The rear sight is missing!!! Look at the second pic!! :eek:
Something tells me this gun would be a BAD idea... :rolleyes:
Tropical Z
June 23, 2003, 12:27 PM
For $120.00 id give it a chance.It cant be any worse than the helwan i once had the misfortune of owning.Just get a workable rear sight.Looks kinda cool.
Mikul
June 23, 2003, 12:29 PM
They don't make very good pets, either:
http://www.gifte.de/images/Echis%20coloratus2.jpg
10-Ring
June 23, 2003, 07:05 PM
WOW, they make th Tauri look good :D :scrutiny:
Marko Kloos
June 23, 2003, 07:22 PM
If Arab gunmaking skill is like Arab warfighting skill, I wouldn't touch that thing with a ten foot pole.
arinvolvo
June 23, 2003, 08:06 PM
I am the arabian Viper,
I am here to Vash and Vipe your Vindows!
:rolleyes:
New_comer
June 23, 2003, 09:20 PM
But....
Look at 'em grips. The second pic, I mean...
Cool, huh? :cool:
firestar
June 24, 2003, 03:04 AM
For $120, you can't go too far wrong. Buy it and tell us about it. No one here seems to have ever heard about it so you could have the only one.
arinvolvo
June 24, 2003, 11:06 AM
Firestar, I disagree...You can definitley go wrong with 120 dollars....In fact, I can think of a couple particular guns that arent worth 120. It may be the most expensive paper weight you ever buy.
And expecially when you can take that 120 bucks and get some nice guns, like the CZ 50 or 52, or a tokarev, or a mak....
WonderNine
June 24, 2003, 11:07 AM
I disagree with the contention that a tokarev is a "nice" gun. :D
Marko Kloos
June 24, 2003, 11:13 AM
I disagree with the contention that a tokarev is a "nice" gun.
Compared to that thing, it's a Commie Gold Cup. :D
WonderNine
June 24, 2003, 11:17 AM
I don't think the gun looks that bad. For $120, I might consider buying one if I new they were reliable and semi-accurate. Of course I could get a new Hungarian Hi-Power clone (PJK-P9M) for $199, so maybe not....
Tamara
June 24, 2003, 11:19 AM
It looks like the love-child of a Ruger and a Hi-Point. :scrutiny:
I think a tackle-box gun would be its best use, as a layer of fish guts could only improve its appearance. :uhoh:
WonderNine
June 24, 2003, 11:26 AM
I hope this doesn't become the new High Road fascination gun A.K.A. the next RAP 401. :rolleyes: :)
New_comer
June 24, 2003, 11:53 AM
A lot of "Ummm's" and "Hmmm's", I sense...
For the culprit, read here : http://www.kaddb.com/default.asp
The one being sold is a blued, 38Super. Ugly and worn as heck... :barf:
Hey, for $120, it really got me thinking...
But if I add costs for licensing, ammo and stuff, & loss of income attending to those--- not a pretty good deal. :(
Besides, my beloved USP won't allow it! :D
WonderNine
June 24, 2003, 12:02 PM
Oh yuck. From the pics I assumed it was NIB.
New_comer
June 24, 2003, 12:09 PM
But looking at it objectively:
It's got ambidextrous slide mounted safety, I suppose it has a decocker ala Bersa, it's single stack (good for smallish hands) and has that 3-taper slide design ala BHP, and snag-free Novak rear sight, all for ease in IWB carry. It's DA/SA with C&L capability.
Looking at the trigger, it seems the SA stroke is very shortish, aiding in accurate shooting, While the long DA trigger position promotes cond# 2 carry.
What else... the barrel has got a single locking lug up top, but no links! Hmmm...
No ramp, so this may only be good for ball ammo. And there's that generously extended slide release lever, solid, not stamped metal. The machining looks fair to good.
I think it merits some attention... emphasis on some :D:D:D
WonderNine
June 24, 2003, 12:14 PM
Thinking it over, and from your observations I'd definately pass. I wouldn't even buy one NIB for $120.
firestar
June 24, 2003, 08:30 PM
I didn't even know Jordan made pistols.:what:
I still think you should buy it. $120 isn't much money to have the only Viper on the block.:D
It looks good from the pics, much better than a Jennings Nine or a Hi-Point. For $120, I would give it some thought if I could see it first hand. It may be better or worse in person.
I am not too sure about Arab engineering though.:neener:
New_comer
June 24, 2003, 09:01 PM
They even make tanks!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Andrew Wyatt
June 24, 2003, 09:26 PM
the jordanians are pretty squared away, as far as middle eastern countries go.
pick it up. it might be neato.
George Hill
June 24, 2003, 10:13 PM
Its not a bad looking gun.
I'd chance it. If anything it will be a collection piece... and how many people here can say they ever fired a pistol from Jordan?
Most squared away Country in the Middle East? That means exactly Jack Squat. Earlier today I observed a fellow that slit all the skin between his fingers and toes... he was afraid that he was turning into a Frog. He would squeeze his eyes shut as hard as he could every time he swallowed... like how frogs swallow with their eyes. You see, a Witch cast a spell on him because he wronged her in some way... and well, you get the picture. Anyways, the Hospital Staff said he was the most normal of all the patients in the Mental Ward.
Tamara
June 25, 2003, 03:11 AM
What does it say about the pistol and the company when the gun in the advertising photo on their website is missing its rear sight? There's some attention to detail for you. :scrutiny:
New_comer
June 25, 2003, 05:35 AM
My point exactly... :D
arinvolvo
June 25, 2003, 03:23 PM
http://www.wildeyguns.com/
Apparently it was designed by WIldey....Im not sure if that is good or bad.
It sure looks big.
http://www.kaddb.com/arabic/images/viper.jpg
Tamara
June 25, 2003, 03:56 PM
Is it just me or does it have a rotating barrel?
If so, that's a feature used on guns from the okay (Cougar) to the tolerable ("Mauser" M2) to the truly abysmal (AA2000). :scrutiny:
New_comer
June 25, 2003, 07:30 PM
It claims the ff features:
--------------------------------------------
Key Features
Double action with minimum dwell time and smooth let-off.
Crisp single action.
Enclosed mechanism.
Tool-free field disassembly for calibre conversion or maintenance.
Common slide and frame for a range of calibres.
Dual firing pin safety block coupled with a hammer drop.
Interchangeable alternative sized hand grips.
Frame with combat hold trigger guard.
Frame slotted to accept laser pointers, torch and silencer.
Lowest possible relationship of center line of trigger to center
line of bore achievable for second shot recovery.
Minimum logistic load for maintenance and support.
-------------------------------------------------
Glock, Walther, etc... LOOK OUT!!! :D:evil: :neener:
If you enjoyed reading about "The Arabian VIPER... Any good???" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join
TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
vBulletin® v3.8.6, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.