[toro]

From the Washingtonpost.com

The nation's capital may be the only juisdiction in the country that orders it's police tethered to their weapons 24 hours a day, every day, and D.C. officers are looking for a little relief. It's a twist on the nationwide push by law enforcement officers elsewhere who want permission to carry their weapons all the time, everywhere they go -- something must juisdictions across the country don't allow, said Lou Cannon, president of F.O.P. Lodge 1, which represents police officers from 43 local and federal agencies that operate in the District.
More than once, off-duty police officers who pulled out their service pistols to help at a crime scene were mistaken for civilians and shot by police, said D.C. councel member Kathy Patterson
(D-ward 3).

Mrs. Toro

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If we live in the Spirit, let as also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

[OF]

I see no reason to force someone to carry a gun on their own time. Cops are civilians. When they're off duty they should be able to do what they please. You gotta wonder when they won't let non-LEO citizens carry guns at all, but force the off-duty Citizens-on-Patrol to carry theirs against their will.

Guess it makes it pretty clear who's in charge of who in DC. 'By the people and for the people'? Not.

- Gabe

[Pilgrim]

I would think that requiring an employee to perform a work related task while off duty in essence puts them on duty and they are entitled to compensation.

Pilgrim

[MrAcheson]

Wow I know that NYC also made their cops carry 24-7. At one point they issued two service weapons specifically for this purpose although this may have subsided after they moved away from S&W revolvers.

[Marko Kloos]

More than once, off-duty police officers who pulled out their service pistols to help at a crime scene were mistaken for civilians and shot by police, said D.C. councel member Kathy Patterson

Eh, Kathy? Police officers are civilians.

[Tamara]

It's a twist on the nationwide push by law enforcement officers elsewhere who want permission to carry their weapons all the time, everywhere they go -- something must juisdictions across the country don't allow,

Whaaat??? :scrutiny:

I can't think of any jurisdictions I've had experience with that didn't allow (or, in some cases, require) their ossifers to tote off-duty.

[BigG]

Fair unbiased coverage, as always. :scrutiny:

[Master Blaster]

You would think that with what happened at the NY Times the reporters at the Post would do a little research before they open their big dumb pie hole, and print information that is an easily verrified outright lie.

NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :barf:

[Jeff White]

Many departments have a policy that requires officers to carry weapon and ID at all times. I've never heard of anyone being disciplined for NOT carrying them.

Optional on our dept, except since 9-11, when the terrorist threat level goes to Orange we are required to carry weapon, badge and ID.

Personally, I can't imagine anyone wanting to walk the streets of our nation's capitol unarmed. I wonder if their policy requires them to take action if an offense is committed in their presence?

Jeff

[Mike Irwin]

I'm pretty sure that there are a LOT of police agencies that require their officers to be armed at all times.

Word to the wise COP...

If you leave your gun at home, leave your badge and ID at home, too.

[Erik]

"If you leave your gun at home, leave your badge and ID at home, too."

And visa versa, too.

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The idea that cops must carry all the time is often tied to the fact that soome places consider their officers to be technically on duty all of the time, either by policy or law.

Anyone know if this is the case?

[toro]

I think our officers can carry at all times. I know they had to carry in th 60s. We ran around with some officers, they are now retired. They were always worried someone would see their weapons and some would put them in their wives purse when it was a dressup affair.

Back then we didn't carry. We started shooting in the 70s and 80s when IPSC first came out. We were one of the first gun clubs to start the matches after the Columbia Conference. Those were the days when Jeff Cooper was in charge of IPSC. We stopped those matches when he retired from IPSC. We then started shooting matches with some Military fellows who would put them on.

Now, we mostly shoot together at the gun club to keep our skills up. We still have lots of fun, with out the hassle. It is fun to shoot and do scenarios. A lot of times we are at the gun club alone with no one to bother us. It is great to be retired.

Mrs. Toro


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And it came to pass afore Isaiah was gone out unto the middle court, that the word of the Lord came to him, saying, turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the Lord, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee; on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the Lord.

[Monkeyleg]

I don't know if it's still policy, but the Milwaukee PD used to require officers to carry off-duty.

There's also a town in northern Wisconsin where officers are not allowed to carry off-duty. One of them called our group to find out how to help get a CCW law passed so he could carry off the job.

[BowStreetRunner]

Interesting,
since some detective in rural areas that I know rarely carry guns ON duty
hehe
BSR