Need a list of modern-day .308 battle rifles


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.cheese.
June 2, 2007, 05:16 PM
Note: .308 as in 7.62x51.

Please no 7.62x39 recommendations, or recommendations for .223/5.56.

I'm specifically looking for 7.62x51/.308 (and I do realize the difference between NATO and sport loads). It's ok either way (7.62x51 or .308 are both fine).

Modern day currently produced, not milsurp.

Must be extremely reliable and high-quality. Your recommendations (other than .308 AR's)?

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The Deer Hunter
June 2, 2007, 05:28 PM
There are new productions FAL's.

Il Duca
June 2, 2007, 05:30 PM
-M1A

-Saiga

-PTR 91

-SA M1 Garand

.cheese.
June 2, 2007, 05:32 PM
new FAL's?

DMK
June 2, 2007, 06:11 PM
I have FALs, but my favorite battle rifle is my Garand. Mine's a CMP gun that I got fully rebuilt and converted to 7.62x51, but you could buy a new one from Springfield. It's tough, accurate, reliable, has great sights, great trigger, easy to work on, easy to reload, and just looks great.

HorseSoldier
June 2, 2007, 06:13 PM
DSA is making FALs in various configurations that are new builds.

Springfield is making M14 clones, as are Fulton Armory and a couple other places, I believe.

JLD (did they change names?) have the PTR-91 clone of the G3.

DPMS, Armalite, Bushmaster (?) and I'm not sure who else are doing AR-10 type rifles.

Saigas are available in 7.62x51.

Not sure who else currently has 7.62x51 rifles in production. Keltec should have their bullpup .308 coming out soon. FN may be releasing a civilian version of the SCAR-H sometime in the next few years. HK will continue to refuse to sell HK 417s to civilian shooters.

glockman19
June 2, 2007, 06:57 PM
Fulton & Titan also make an AR-10 version in .308

Quiet
June 2, 2007, 07:00 PM
Current production...
Armalite AR-10 (AR type)
DPMS LR-308 (AR type)
DSA SA-58 (FAL type)
Fulton Armory M-14 (M14 type)
Fulton Armory Titan FAR.308 (AR type)
Izmash Saiga-308 (AK type)
JLD PTR-91 (G3 type)
KAC SR-25 (AR type)
Springfield Armory M-1 Garand
Springfield Armory M-1A (M14 type)
Vector Arms V-51 (G3 type)

Coming soon?...
FN SCAR-H
Kel-Tec RFB

.cheese.
June 2, 2007, 07:06 PM
Where did you read that FN would be producing a civilian MK17 (SCAR-H)?

I would be interested in that if it happened.

Thanks for the info so far guys. :)

Quiet
June 2, 2007, 07:19 PM
Where did you read that FN would be producing a civilian MK17 (SCAR-H)?

http://www.defense-update.com/products/s/scar.htm

"On February 2006, at the Las Vegas SHOT Show in Nevada, FNH announced plans to introduce within two years (ca. 2008) a semi-automatic version of the SCAR modular rifle system, designed for the law enforcement and commercial markets."

http://www.fnhusa.com/press/releases_consumer/detail.asp?id=7

"Production of a semi-automatic only version of the innovative modular rifle system with a target launch to LE and commercial markets will potentially be available in the next two years."

General Geoff
June 2, 2007, 07:20 PM
Good God, that's one ugly gun. But hey, if the shoe fits..

kcmarine
June 2, 2007, 07:34 PM
Well, that new Kel- Tec bullpup rifle is going to be in .308.
M1A/M14
G3
AR10 Variants
BM-59
Ruined M1 Garands
FAL
SIG 510
Howa Type 64
Modern BAR chambered in .308



Some might be milsurp, some aren't available for civil use, but just wanted to throw some others in.

.cheese.
June 2, 2007, 08:15 PM
I have a feeling the SCAR would look fine in all black if they make it like that.

The SIG510 was mentioned, is that still produced? I thought it was long gone?

ETA: Nevermind I see you mentioned that possibility.

.cheese.
June 2, 2007, 08:19 PM
Too bad the HK417 isn't made in a civilian version. :(

Although it looks relatively similar to an AR-10. What's the difference? Different action?

Sunray
June 2, 2007, 09:03 PM
"...Modern day currently produced, not milsurp..." None that you can legally buy. There are lots of commercial copies though.

.cheese.
June 2, 2007, 09:54 PM
I don't necessarily mean military issue. I consider a Bushmaster to be just as much of a battle rifle as an M16.... just because it isn't military issue and isn't full auto doesn't mean it isn't a battle rifle IMO.

WeedWhacker
June 3, 2007, 06:18 AM
Some .308 IMI Galils were imported in various configurations before the '89 Bush ban. Not cheap, but still available.

Ohio Rapid Fire is currently manufacturing .308 (as well as .223) Galil receivers, and parts kits can still be found to have a good 'smith build a Galil. Heck, now that I look at their website, it seems ORF is producing most of the parts needed to have a good 'smith build a "new" 7.62 NATO Galil (http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi/agora.cgi?cart_id=2168777.2802*Sg4Sg3&product=Galil&cart_id=2168777.2802*-y8qB2).

Hmmm.

4fingermick
June 3, 2007, 09:42 AM
What about the Remoington 7600 Police Pump gun. I have one and it is as sweet as. 10 round mags do ok, but if I was in a real sheet fight, a 20 rounder would be nice.

Titan6
June 3, 2007, 10:21 AM
I don't like them but I have not seen the Cetme posted.

What is modern? There are few truly modern military rifles that are available to the public. Most are based on 30-50 year old designs.

Neo-Luddite
June 3, 2007, 10:48 AM
You can get an m-1 rebarreled to 7.62 NATO----but you can also put a $15.00 adapter in a regular .30-06 M-1 w/ some permatex and it will eat .308.



I keep mine in .06, but I have that adapter in the stock just in case--something to think about. And .06 is still a bargain for the M-1 from CMP right now.

flashman70
June 3, 2007, 11:17 AM
www.warrifles.com.

AndyC
June 7, 2007, 02:14 PM
www.warrifles.com
Uhhhh... no thank you ;)

El Tejon
June 7, 2007, 02:26 PM
Nothing above is "modern", but given your parameters you may want to look at the fine product that the folks at LRB offer: http://www.lrbarms.com/m14sa.html

Wonderful weapons.

Ian Sean
June 7, 2007, 06:54 PM
Does my Semi-1919 count? I have it in A6 configuration...and they are currently being made by various manufacturers..:D

warrifles...:scrutiny:

Click Click Boom
June 8, 2007, 12:34 AM
COBB and POF makes a Gas piston AR10

Avenger29
June 8, 2007, 12:57 AM
You can get an m-1 rebarreled to 7.62 NATO----but you can also put a $15.00 adapter in a regular .30-06 M-1 w/ some permatex and it will eat .308.

And what happens if a round pulls the adapter out upon extraction? The navy tried adaptors, and they did not work well...

cheygriz
June 8, 2007, 04:22 PM
The ONLY "modern" .308 battle rifles are the AR types from DPMS, Bushmaster and Armalite.

El Tejon
June 8, 2007, 04:24 PM
The AR-15 in .308 is about 50 years old. Qualifying for C&R is hardly "modern.":D

Quiet
June 8, 2007, 04:35 PM
The ONLY "modern" .308 battle rifles are the AR types from DPMS, Bushmaster and Armalite.
Acutally, the only "modern" 7.62x51/.308 battle rifles being made would be the yet to be released FN SCAR-H and Kel-Tec RFB. Everything else, is a modernization of a design from the 50s & 60s.

sig220
June 11, 2007, 06:52 PM
You didnt mention price, either a PTR or an M-14 I dont think you can go wrong with either.

PercyShelley
June 11, 2007, 11:35 PM
Over at the arfcom forums (yes, I know) a magpul employee mentioned the possibility of the masada being produced in .308. I think that's some ways down the road if it happens though.

Chilean
June 12, 2007, 12:18 AM
Sig 542 (made in Chile)
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/sig.htm

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