[kcmarine]

How do you do it? PLEASE PROVIDE PICTURES. I'm at my wit's end. This thing could be a paperweight for all I care.

[Slinger]

What are you asking about? A Ruger MkI?

[tostada]

http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/field_strip.htm

[Ron James]

Once you learn the little trick you will be embarrassed to tell any one you had a hard time reassembling it.

[kcmarine]

So what's the little trick, bub?

Really, I don't like the gun. It's not mine, but I have to put it back together.

It shoots very well, is very accurate, but if you can't break it down and clean it thoroughly, what good is it?

[ArmedBear]

The Ruger auto .22's are easy to assemble IF AND ONLY IF you follow the instructions EXACTLY.

Any deviation, and there's trouble.

Great guns, though. They only need cleaning every few bricks anyway, and you can stretch it out for another brick by reaching in through the ejection port and wiping off the really thick fouling on the chamber face.:D

[jsebens]

I'm sorry, I don't have one to take pictures of, but I'd be happy to walk you through how to do it over the phone or IM. Shoot me an email at jsebens@sbcglobal.net, and we can work it out.

[ball3006]

I took my standard auto apart...........now, it is easy.......chris3

[kcmarine]

The problem is I broke it down TOO much. I took the spring out of the backstrap, you know, the one that holds the sear in. Now, I don't know how to put it in. UGGGHHHHHH!!! PIECE OF CRAP!!! Why can't these things be easy to assemble, like XDs or other weapons?

[highrider]

The sear spring can certainly be a pain in the ass. I never take the grips off any more without taping over pins so they don't fall out! :D

[def4pos8]

:o Hey there kcmarine! This is one of the true joys of dealing with the Ruger pistol. Calm yourself. The advice above is valid. Adapt and overcome! Semper Fi!! :D

[44AMP]

Calling the Ruger a POS is unfair, just as unfair as me calling you an idiot for taking it apart TOO much.

I have had a Ruger Mk I (6&7/8" bbl) for over 25 years, and the pistol has been taken apart twice, and never have I attempted to disassemble the mechanism beyond major subassemblies. There just is no need to do that.

Some pistol do lend themselves to detail stripping. Primarily service style autos, intended for military use. The 1911 set this basic standard. Browning's genius was not only that he designed guns that worked, but also that his designs are basically mechanically simple as well.

Your belief that you should be able to detail strip a firearm, and if it isn't easy then the gun is a POS is in error. There are lots and lots of designs that should not be taken apart except if they need repair. They will function fine and give a lifetime (and more) of service without having to be taken apart. Cleaning may not be as easy or as thorough seeming with them, but this is not a design flaw. It is intentional.

Swallow your pride, and take the parts to a gunsmith, or send them to Ruger, and when you get the gun back, don't do it again. If you don't like the fact that it is a pain to strip, sell it. But don't call it a POS just because YOU have a problem.

[Bullseye57]

These instructions are for the Mark III pistol but the internals of a Mark I go in exactly the same way. There's some up close pictures of things like sear spring orientation, just click on the thumbnails to enlarge them.

http://www.guntalk-online.com/detailstrip.htm

Hope this helps.

R,
Bullseye

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[oscarswanson]

I used a Vise grips on mine. Sure it has some gouge marks on it but at least it's back togther.
I feel your pain!!

[longeyes]

That's why I bought a Neos.

[IndianaBoy]

:neener:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/gnieman/markii003_REDUCED.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/gnieman/ruger.jpg

I used a Vise grips on mine. Sure it has some gouge marks on it but at least it's back togther.
I feel your pain!!

What in the world for!!! :what:

[mrrick]

Relax, we've all been there, I haven't stripped mine in 16 years. The other big pita gun was the HK 91, vise grips were "de riguer" for those roller thingys.

[ArmedBear]

GunBlast is your friend.:D

[kgriggs8@yahoo.com]

Everyone who has had to field strip a Ruger 22 auto knows your pain. Once you learn how to do it, it is easy. It is not s POS by any means and it is worth the effort to learn how to take it apart and put it back together because for the money, it is the best .22 auto you can buy.

Mine are tack drivers and are as reliable as .22lr autos get. I get a dud primer once in a while but almost no jams. I have owned other brands and they are fine but the Ruger is a serious target pistol for only a few hundred bucks. Box stock, mine have all been shooters. The only thing I put on them is new grips. They would be better with target trigger but I really don't mind creep. As long as it isn't too heavy, creep can be overcome.

[kcmarine]

Okay, POS was a bit far. But it is a POS until it is reassembled.

Thanks for the help. However, I'm looking at other options to supplement the Ruger in the .22 pistol dept.

[mister_wilburn]

Tostada's post gave a great block of instructions on how to dissassemble and reassemble the ruger mark II. I just got done putting about 300 rounds into a bowling pin at 35 or 40 meters. I love that gun! Dont get down on it because its a bit of a pain to put back together, its a good design for a rimfire .22, and if you follow the instructions to a T you will be able to put it together in under a minute. The first few times are the hardest, but I take mine apart 3 times a month, or after the range. It gets easier the more you do it, the first time I took mine apart it took 1 hour to reassemble. Good luck. Browning Buck Mark is another accurate rimfire, not sure about taking it apart though.

[pakmcc]

I have to laught a little at every one with the buckmark, Ruger, etc. .22's
I know what it's like to have to clean these things. That's why I have to laught a little. I picked up a witness .45 auto and it came with a .22 barrel. The .22 barrel fits right were the .45 barrel sits and has the same number of parts as the .45. you know, The slide, slide spring, barrel. and the barrel slide stop. YOu clean the witness just like you would clean any 9mm, 40cal., or .45 witness or CZ, Did I say CZ?
I finally found a .22 barrel for a CZ75B in 9mm(through a .40 or CZ85 will work just as well.)
Yepp, the CZ .22 (kadet) and the witness both seem to be as accurate as a sig-hammerly Trailside that I had. ANd I'm talking out to 25 yards or so.
A friends son put about 400rounds through the CZ one afternoon and the gun started to gum up then. It took about two minutes to pull the slide off and spray it was gun cleaner, let dry a little and a quick touch of oil and it was ready to go again. What's wrong with this picture,,,, I don't think there's anything wrong with this picture.
I like my .22 CZ and witness. NOw I've got a witness .45 barrel for sale and a CZ 9mm barrel for sale. I don't ever plan to put the center fire barrels back on. (ok, in another ten years when I can't shoot the centerfires anylonger.)
Pat

[kcmarine]

So a .22 conversion for a .45... hmmm. Worth looking at.

[MassMark]

The Ruger Mark series is one of the best 22 pistols ever made, (IMO), you're going through what everyone who has owned one has gone through. I used to toss mine in my paperbag at 16 and ride it down to the gunsmiths to help me put it together... ;) Now at 41, I can do it in my sleep. Just takes practice. If you're that convinced it's a POS - I'll take it!.. :)

[kgriggs8@yahoo.com]

I am a big fan of 22 conversion kits. They have lots of downsides but they make up for it in fun and better pratice.

Downsides:
1. Cost about as much as a whole other gun (like a Ruger MKII).
2. Mags are pricey
3. Not normally as accurate as a good .22lr pistol (like the Ruger MKII)

Upsides:
1. Fun!
2. Realistic target practice with your carry gun. Assuming you carry one fo the models that conversion kits are made for.

[Mr Weebles]

I had MAJOR trouble reassembling my Ruger 22/45, so I searched Google and found these instructions on an old archived THR thread:

Here is my method for reassembling a Ruger .22 auto (all models). I find it easier for a newbie to follow this method that the arcane instructions in the Ruger factory manual:

Here is what I do:
1. Reinstall bolt into receiver while receiver is off frame.

2. Pull trigger, and manually pull hammer up to it's "Fired" position, with it's front face vertical and perpendicular to the top of the grip frame. (Sear pressure on front of hammer should keep it in place pretty securely, once you release the trigger.)

Now that you have the hammer in the "fired" position, DO NOT TOUCH THE TRIGGER until the pistol is reassembled. It's key that the hammer must stay in this "fired" position for the following steps. If you end up touching the trigger, the sear pressure against the hammer will be lost, and the hammer may move to the "cocked" position.

3. Hold grip frame with magazine opening facing down. Carefully lower barrel/receiver assy (with bolt installed) over hammer and onto grip frame. The slot in the bottom of the bolt should be guided down over the hammer. Push rearward to lock barrel/receiver assy onto lug in front of grip frame in the normal manner. DO NOT allow hammer to be bumped back to "cocked" position while doing this. If it does, go back to step 2.

4. Place pistol on it's side, with mag opening nearest yourself, and barrel pointing right or left, parallel to the width of your torso. Install the boltstop pin (attached to mainspring housing) all the way up into reciever while keeping pistol oriented this way.

5. With bolt stop pin fully inserted, but mainspring housing fully pivoted OUT of the grip frame, flip the pistol so the grip frame is facing with the magazine opening UP. (Basically you are rotating the pistol about the axis of the barrel, moving the mag opening from towards your chest, to straight up.) The pistol should now be upside down, facing sideways in front of you.

6. While holding the pistol upside down and sideways across you, tip the muzzle slightly UPWARD (no more than 30 degrees should do it). Holding in this position, close the mainspring housing.

Check for proper operation by pulling the bolt back. If it goes all the way back you did it right. If not, take it apart and do it again.

The whole objective of orienting the pistol in the ways I do in the steps above is to keep the hammer uncocked at all times. Doing that keeps the hammer strut free to flop over to join the mainspring housing when you close it.

Most persons get bamboozled when the hammer strut gets stuck behind the pin in the frame, and won't flop out to join the mainspring housing. The only way the strut will get stuck like that is if the hammer falls back towards the cocked position while doing the reassembly.

As usual, describing this process is a LOT more complicated than doing it. I can actually perform these steps on my .22/45 in about 45 seconds, if I don't let the hammer drop to the cocked position while doing it.

Try this tonite, and see if it does not remove some of the frustration.

The first time I followed these instructions it went back together with no fuss.

Good luck.

[Jmeyer1292]

My Ruger MkII was the first handgun I bought and after more than a year of shooting it I can safely say that I hate it. It's never been particularly reliable, my particular one is a short barrel version so it's difficult to shoot accurately, and even after learning to take it down, it's still a pain.

That stupid hammer... and I really don't like the fact that you have to pound the upper and lower pieces from each other.

[Quentin]

Ruger packs a nice manual with the MKII that explains field stripping. Or they'll send you one free if you need it. For the sear the links already given should do the trick.

Bet you'd like the Ruger if you gave it a chance. Excellent pistols, I have three - MKI, MKII, MKIII and love them all! Each one is accurate and reliable, if they jam you've probably got a couple of bricks through them since the last cleaning. My MKI is 30 years old and the MKII is 20, never had anything break.

[nipprdog]

The Ruger auto .22's are easy to assemble IF AND ONLY IF you follow the instructions EXACTLY.

Any deviation, and there's trouble.

Great guns, though. They only need cleaning every few bricks anyway, and you can stretch it out for another brick by reaching in through the ejection port and wiping off the really thick fouling on the chamber face.


Excellent post. ;)

[varoadking]

After four decades of shooting big-bore centerfire handguns and rifles, I find that I derive far more enjoyment these days shooting my four MKII's and other rimfire pieces - including my Henry pump rifle...

The Pac-Lite MKII uppers make for one awesome little piece...

http://www.tacticalsol.com/homefast.htm

[MassMark]

I have to do the math...Hmmm.... 41-16=......thinking.....need another sip of coffee....okay got it...26-years I've had my Mark II. In that 26-years, I can with all honesty say that I don't remember a jam. Had some rounds that failed to fire and one squib. Other than that, it's been 100% and I have shot literally 10's of thousands of rounds through it. My Ruger is accurate and reliable and I barely clean it. Can't remember the last time I stripped it down - cleaning rod, patch and brush - along with a toothbrush and a section of t-shrt for the inside. Silicone cloth on the out - that's it folks....It ain't rocket science. If you're in possession of an unreliable, innacurate Ruger Mark Anything, then I'd feel safe to say that it's you and not the gun.....Truth hurts... ;)

[XavierBreath]

There are two ways to reassemble a Ruger .22 auto pistol.

1. Follow the directions. Exactly. Do not omit steps. Do not think. Do not deviate. Follow the directions. A link to some of the best directions on the 'net, with photos, is posted above. Here it is again (http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/field_strip.htm).

2. Take it to a gunsmith.

Reassembly is not that difficult, but you do have to follow the directions, or take it to someone who will follow them for you.

[heritageguy]

Let me get this right. YOU took the gun apart and now the GUN is a POS because YOU can't figure out how to put it back together?:rolleyes:

Put the parts in a bag and take it to a gunsmith. Tell him about your POS!

[rugerfreak]

The Ruger Mark series are the finest .22 auto pistols currently available----not bad gun---but bad gun owner.

[kcmarine]

Okay... okay... sheeesh... I've got it. I'm an idiot. Sweet baby Jesus, you guys are better at drilling that into a person's head better than ANY hormonal woman.

But the thing needed to be cleaned. Probably 1500 rounds of VERY dirty Remington Thunderbolt 22 ammo. It was beginning to have problems. Now, I've go the sear in, with the disconnector locked in that little notch. That's the way it's supposed to be, right?

[XavierBreath]

Try these instructions (http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/internals.htm) Marine.

Marines.....When it absolutely, positively has to be broken overnight. ;)

Calm down, just go to the link and follow the instructions like a good sailor........:evil:

[kcmarine]

Well... UGGG. I need to post my age.


I wanna thank you guys for all your advice on this matter. I'm gonna give it another shot, but after that, it's off to the gunsmith I go.

[Bullseye57]

Watch this video from Volquartsen:

http://videos.volquartsen.com/MKII%20Accurizing%20Kit%20Installation.mov

Just skip the steps where he's installing the bolt stop parts.

Hope this helps.

R,
Bullseye

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[MassMark]

KCMarine...Keep at it...One you have it, you'll realize how easy it is...Then come back here and take back all those horrible things you said... :D

[heritageguy]

I just saw your age in your bio. That explains everything.

[Holydoc]

This is by far my hardest gun to reassemble. I curse it every time I have to put it back together. I love its accuracy but hate to strip it. And yes I follow the instructions to the letter but still end up struggling every time.

My other guns are a dream to strip and clean, Beretta 92FS, Sig P232, and S&W 642 (revolver so no stripping necessary).

[Sniper X]

This is the onbly reason I have NOT purchased a Ruger MKI,II whatever. My boss, has one he needed feild stripped and cleaned because we were on a hunt and he was letting the kids shoot it. Of course with MY, the resident gun guys' supervision. Anyway, after a few good hours each day for 3 days the thing got so dirty it was having a hard time cycling. I started taking it down at about noon and after much thought and pressing it was back together at about 1:15! WOW an hour and a half to strip and clean reassemble a .22 Auto!

It was a total pain and I never wanted to do it again. From then on I have cleaned it for him with gun scrubber and a compressor! (kidding!)

[MassMark]

SniperX...What took you an hour plus can be dome in 5 minutes if you know what you're doing...It's not an easy gun to assemble blindly unless you know the mechanics of it....It's a shame you have eliminated yourself from this fine little pistol.....

[Sniper X]

Righto, and I probably will end up withg one as I LOVE the way they shoot! I was just very put off about the assembly, but sure if someone showed me how to do it right, I'd be able to do it as you describe.

[briang2ad]

I'll probably KEEP my Ruger Govt Mk II, but it does jam once 50 rounds are through it, and I stopped shooting it because cleaning it is not that fun if you take it apart. I can detail strip a CZ 75 down to the trigger easier than getting the Mk II apart/back together.

I also understand folks hoave had the SAME accuracy or better with the Kadet Kit. But... I know the Ruger trigger will be better.

[IndianaBoy]

Am I the only one who thinks the Ruger Mark II is easier to detail strip than any other pistol?

I have never had my Sig or CZ down to component pieces... but my Ruger is no big deal.

[MaterDei]

Hilarious

[IndianaBoy]

Hey KC marine.

If your gun is still in pieces, I can assemble it for you the next time I come through KC.

For a beer or two. ;)