What kind of hoops did you have to jump thru for your CCW?


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TonyB
June 23, 2003, 02:57 PM
This is related to a post I just responded to.What did you guys have to do to get your CCW,and where are you from.Packing.org is a good source but a little vague.
I'm in upstate NY,I went to a safety course,had fingerprints taken,pictures and it cost about $150 all together.That was for a permit w/ restrictions(target and hunting).To get my restrictions taken off I took another safety course(from what I hear it's the second half of the NRA course)where you actually shoot.Then I wrote a letter to the judge who signed my permit.After the letter it took about 2 weeks.
6 months for the permit,2 weeks to get the unresticted.I am in a good county.in the country....pretty big gun community.
How about you guys and gals??:cool:

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Wil Terry
June 23, 2003, 03:53 PM
Filled out a half sheet form, name, address, have you ever, are you a, signed it, gave it to the clerk with ten bucks [ for 5 years ] and in 12 days the CCW showed up at home signed by the secretary of state because I am one of the good guys until proven differently.

TarpleyG
June 23, 2003, 04:05 PM
Ordered the permit packet online, got printed at the local PO, copied my DD-214, had a passport photo made, filled out papers, and mailed everything to Tallahassee. MY biggest hurdle was justifying the $100+ when I had no money to do it. That was my birthday gift to myself one year.

GT

El Tejon
June 23, 2003, 04:21 PM
Paid $25, filled out application, waited 20 days. Have to do this every 4 years.

ExMachina
June 23, 2003, 04:48 PM
1) Take a state-approved concealed carry class and get a notarized certificate
2) Pay $90 to sheriff, fill out application and get the application notarized :rolleyes:
3) Sign a release for medical records
4) Get 5 written character references, each of them notarized :rolleyes:
5) Get photographed and fingerprinted.
6) Wait
7) Pick up CHP from sheriff, despite his attemps to make the shall issue law as difficult as possible :neener:

BTW, my county is apparenty the worst in the state...

priv8ter
June 23, 2003, 05:08 PM
And here I thought Washington was great....

Went to the Kitsap County Sheriff's office, filled out my paper, got finger printed, paid $50 bucks for five years(only 10 in South Dakota????) and got my permit in the mail 4 days later...

YodaVader
June 23, 2003, 05:13 PM
Yeah , I lived in NC for 16 years or so before moving here to IN. The gun laws here are more favorable to the law abiding gun owner. I was living in IN only for a few months and had no problem getting a handgun carry permit. Had to be fingerprinted and paid like $25 bucks or so at the time for a 4 year permit. Plus this allows me to buy handguns during those 4 years.

Ky Larry
June 23, 2003, 05:31 PM
In Kentucky I had to take an 8 hour class on safety and legal issues from an approved instructor. Had to shoot a qualifying range test(21 rounds at 7 yards at a mansized target).I got a certificate that said I took the class in the mail 2 weeks later. Took that and a passport photo to the Fayette County courthouse and 3 weeks later picked up my CCW card. I think the total cost was $125 for everything.

CZ 75 BD
June 23, 2003, 05:38 PM
Fill out application including 3 references, pay $7.50 at the sheriff's office, good for one year. Able to renew by mail.

:cool:

Hkmp5sd
June 23, 2003, 05:38 PM
Mailed application, money order, DD-214 and 2 fingerprint cards to the state licensing division (no pictures back then).

Now, if you want to talk about hoops, buy a machinegun.

Erik
June 23, 2003, 05:59 PM
The law has since changed, but my Sheriff requird that I submit proof of attending a basic firearms course or better within two years prior to approving my CCW. Not much of a hoop, if you ask me.

Croyance
June 23, 2003, 06:12 PM
In Georgia, I had to have the GBI's (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) portion of the payment as a money order.
Had to be fingerprinted.
Had to go into the County Court building. Inconvenient because they are only open during buisness hours.

CB900F
June 23, 2003, 06:26 PM
Fella's;

No hoops. DD214 + some cash, & get fingerprinted, that's it in Wyoming. Montana (county Sheriff issues) accepted Wyoming's permit. Another fingerprinting & more cash.

900F

Daniel T
June 23, 2003, 06:36 PM
Texas:

Pay for a 10 hour CCW class. Mine was $75, from a friend.

Buy two passport photos.

Fill out two fingerprint cards.

Fill out a multi-page application.

Pay your $140 app. fee and turn in all of the above.

Wait for 3-6 months for your license.

Quintin Likely
June 23, 2003, 07:53 PM
$20 cash to the probate judge for fingerprinting. $24 money order to the GBI for the NCIS check.

Been waiting ever since 18 Feb... :cuss:

WhoKnowsWho
June 23, 2003, 08:04 PM
$60 for 16 hour class, and fingerprinting, and qual shoot

$50 for application

less than 2 weeks later I had it already.

ajacobs
June 23, 2003, 08:18 PM
Vermont....Oh I just bought a gun and a holster

But I have many other permits with different degree's of hoops. Including, florida, NY, and NH

P95Carry
June 23, 2003, 09:09 PM
Zero hoops!!

Here (at least in my county) it was a case of a visit to Sheriff's office ... fill in the form and then after background check .... part with $21.50 ..... receiving some minutes later my reduced and laminated ''Pensylvania licence to carry firearms''... valid 4 years.

Done deal! :)

My only reservation with our system is that maybe there should be some sort of need to show competancy with firearms handling (tho a leaflet is given out) ....... as I expect at times complete novices may apply. On balance tho this is a gun friendly and very gun aware area really and I'd reckon that in most cases, new CCW's will already have some experience.

Graystar
June 23, 2003, 09:12 PM
CCW??? What's that???

Just for the "privilege" of having a gun in my home I had to pay 329 bucks to the city, 35 bucks to the range (to fill out the application, *had to be* typed, and they know the things that will get you rejected,) get fingerprinted, interviewed, get notorized character references, letter from the range that had my guns (saying they had my guns,) and I waited about 10 months in all.

Ridiculous.

I have to pick up my 5th gun. Before I can, I have to bring a two pictures of my safe (opened and closed,) the receipt for the safe, and it has to be approved by the licensing commission before they will give me a release for my gun. When I get the gun, I have to bring it to the police station for inspection. :rolleyes:

Ala Dan
June 23, 2003, 09:46 PM
In central Alabama I went down to the SO, obtained
the proper form, answered all the question's etc.
Then they did a through background check, a NCIC
records check; which all came back negative. Then
I paid the clerk $7.50, and I had my CCW license
within minutes; and have had one ever since, even
during my 20 years as a LEO. Back then you also
had to show your N.R.A. membership card to get
an unrestricted license; nowdays all CCW license
are unrestricted, allowing you to carry the weapon
(or weapons- No Class III's) of your choice!:D :) :rolleyes:

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

P95Carry
June 23, 2003, 09:47 PM
Graystar -- I am appalled. That description sounds like .......... no ....... WORSE ...... than the UK situation, before '97 when the s hit the fan for handguns. I mean it .... WORSE!!:rolleyes: :(

Seems like 2nd has all but been erased for you. :( And what does it all achieve? Zilch ....... BG's must love it.

AtoZ
June 23, 2003, 09:56 PM
Also in NC, but I'm in Orange county.

Took the approved class for 75 bucks I believe.
Went to the sheriff's office, filled out the forms, and got fingerprinted. Actually, I was surprised how simple it was.

ExMachina, that's pretty incredible. I'm not sure if I would have done it if 5 references were required. I don't have 2 people I want to know I have a carry permit at the moment, much less 5.

El Tejon
June 23, 2003, 11:46 PM
Yoda, you mean without the background check. No permit to purchase is necessary here.

Master Blaster
June 24, 2003, 09:14 AM
1) Take a state-approved concealed carry class and get a notarized certificate $95
2) Get 2 passport photos
3)Pay $80 Get fingerprinted and background check; state and FBI.
4) Get 5 written character references on a questionaire, which says things like"Do you know why the person wants a permit please be specific" Do you think this person will be a danger to others if he gets a permit" etc.
2) Pay $130 to Superior Cout of DE, fill out application with an essay on WHY I want a permit to carry a weapon concealed. and get the application notarized.
6) Get interviewed (over the phone ) by the AG investigator.
7) Wait two months for a Judge to approve my CCW, and send it in the mail.

Kentucky Rifle
June 24, 2003, 09:26 AM
The worst part was going downtown and picking the thing up. Couldn't carry in the court house. Felt plumb naked going downtown unarmed. Oh, it's too expensive also. (But at least I can get one.)

KR

cool45auto
June 24, 2003, 10:13 AM
Same as Croyance and A308Winchester. Four weeks wait.

hoppinglark
June 24, 2003, 10:45 AM
(for active duty Military)

1) Take a state-approved concealed carry class and get a notarized certificate

2) Get letter from CO with aproval, saying records have been screened and that said idiviual is not a threat to himself or others

4)Have the same letter written from all previous commands

5) Get CO's letter stamped by the PMO's Background check

6) Get Background check from Courthouse

7) Pay $90 to sheriff, fill out application and get the application notarized

8) Sign a release for medical records (Mental Health)

9) Get 5 written character references, each of them notarized

10) Get photographed and fingerprinted.

11) Pick up CHP from sheriff, despite his attemps to make the shall issue law as difficult as possible

Our Sherrif seems to hate the idea of Marines being armed and since most of us are registered to vote absentee ballot, he will most likely never leave office.
By the time i had put all my paper work together I had a new CO and my training class certificate had expired...guess i'll have to try again

ExMachina
June 24, 2003, 11:03 AM
AtoZ,

Yup. pretty incredible how much this varies from county to county in NC. I have a friend in Orange Co and I am always envious of how much easier it is for him to even get a pistol purchase permit--Durham requires 2 character references for **each pair** of purchase permits (notarized, of course) :mad: . Needless to say his CHP process was less painful than mine.

I'm guessing that Durham's "policies" would never hold up in court but who's going ot spend the $$ to challenge them? Heck, I'm almost broke from the parking garage fees from my countless trips to the Sheriff's office.

-Dave

12GA
June 24, 2003, 12:54 PM
Well, I too reside in Upstate NY, but in a somewhat less gun-friendly county than TonyB. I started my efforts in March 2002 when I attended the mandatory NRA certified pistol safety course ($30). Then I picked up two copies of the pistol permit application from my local (Village) police department and completed my portion. I was also given four personal reference forms and was instructed to obtain four reputable character references from people who have known me for at least one year (no relatives, and they must be residents of the Capital District.) Then I obtained a certified copy of my Driver's Abstract of Operating Record ($5) from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Then I had three photographs taken - passport size ($20) which needed to be submitted with the application, DMV driver's abstract, pistol safety course certificate of completion, and four character references, when I met with the local LEO to have my fingerprints taken ($74) on July 9th. (The thing that took the longest to this point was getting the darn personal references back from my friends!) Then, wait, wait, wait while the NYS Dept of Criminal Justice Services performed a background check on me. It is my understanding that if you have a criminal record, even an arrest for DWI, you will not be approved for a pistol permit. On October 25th I received a letter from the County Judge inviting me to a conference with him on November 7th regarding my application. I attended the conference during which the Judge indicated that he was approving my application. The conference was being held at the request of the local (Village) Police Chief who asked that the Judge meet with every applicant who was a resident of the town I live in for whom he was going to approve a pistol permit. The judge further explained that the permit would have written on it that it was restricted to Hunting, Trapping, Target and travel to and from and asked me if I understood that I was not suppose to carry as a "matter of my daily routine." I informed the judge that I understood. Then he says, "and if you do, you'd better have a target folded up in your wallet." Which I interpret as his way of saying that he knows that permit holders are carrying outside of the restrictions, and that if it were up to him (which I thought it was) he would turn a blind eye to those who violated the restrictions. :confused: A couple days later I get a letter in the mail (dated November 7th) from the County Clerks office informing me that my Pistol Permit application had been approved and that I could pick it up at the office ($10) during office hours. So, now I go and pick up my permit, which has a "coupon" attached to it. This coupon is what I gave to my friendly local Gun Shop (along with a whole lotta $) when I purchased my first pistol.

Unruely
June 24, 2003, 01:56 PM
Went to the local couthouse and picked up the paperwork, filled out the application. Then I met with a local deputy to shoot, after shooting only 15 rounds he said "Thats all I need to see". We then swapped guns and did some more shooting. I then took the app. and the paper from the deputy showing I had qualified back to the courthouse, paid my $65 background check/application fee. I was told it would take a least a week, (it was the monday before Thanksgiving), went back on Friday, and paid my $10 charge for the permit (it had been signed the day after I had dropped it off). It is good for 5 years, then it will only be another $10 to renew it.

Martin

Peter M. Eick
June 24, 2003, 05:29 PM
Demise described Texas pefectly for my wife and I. It only took about 3 months for both of ours though.

anapex
June 24, 2003, 06:19 PM
When I lived in Indiana County, PA (Western part near Pittsburgh) all I needed to do was visit the local sheriff's office, fill out a form, pay $25, and then wait a month or so. License at the time was good for 5 years (that was back in 2000 have they changed it to 4 now?). Now I unfortunately live in CCW hell a.k.a Maryland, where I won't even attempt to get one because I don't have enough political connections or death threats but those two probably go hand-in-hand.

jdkelly
June 24, 2003, 07:24 PM
I got a CC Licence three years ago, because my LIFE TIME FID card expired and I had to get another. The cost for an FID was similar to a Pistol Permit and as I always wanted one, so I elected to go for the Pistol Permit. When filling out the paper work at the Police Station the officer checked of Class B rather then Class A. I asked him what the difference was and he said mag size, so I changed it to "A" saying lets try for an "A" and "All Lawful Purposes. That is what is needed for CCL. The requirements follow:

1) I had to pass an approved gun safety class. Bad class!
2) File out an application and attach a copy of the safety class certification.
3) Interview with the Chief of Police. He was a straight shooter.
4) Pass a background check
5) Be finger printed and photographed and pay about $40.00.

It took a month or two to get the CCL

1) The gun safety class was terrible, I told the chief that too.
3) Unknown to me the Chief was a high school classmate of my older brothers. My brother George was a well liked, but tough kid in High School so I don't know if that helped or hurt me. We spoke of how I could loose my CCL. fighting, domestic abuse, public drunkenness. He made it very clear he'd put up with no BS.



Respectfully,

jdkelly

dairycreek
June 24, 2003, 07:34 PM
You have to take a class and get a certificate of sucessful completion, make an application at the Sheriff's office of the county in which you are resident, wait until they have checked you out through NCIC, and appear at the county sheriff's office for finger printing, taking of an ID pic for your CHL (concealed handgun license), and paying the fee. Whole thing took me about a month from the time I completed the class until I had the permit. I just renewed mine for four years and the cost for the renewal was $69.00. Took about a week. No other requirements, just new paperwork. My old permit remained in effect until I received the new one. No lapse in coverage. Good shooting;)

AtoZ
June 24, 2003, 09:51 PM
I'm surprised its so tough to get over in Jacksonville, hopinglark. Sounds like it might be easier for non-military? That right? Doesn't seem like it makes sense.

In case ya don't know, Orange(my county) and Durham(ExMachina's) are right next to each other. For that matter, Orange has what I'd imagine are the two most liberal towns in the state, Chapel Hill and Carrboro. Interesting...

I did have to get two notarized character witnesses to apply for a pistol permit, but I can get as many as I want(no limits that I know of) with that one application.
-AtoZ

RVSinOK
June 24, 2003, 11:18 PM
Graystar and 12GA, you have just given me yet another reason that I am glad I don't reside in NY! I'll never complain about Oklahoma laws again!
:D

YodaVader
June 24, 2003, 11:49 PM
"Yoda, you mean without the background check. No permit to purchase is necessary here."

I was comparing to North Carolina where a purchase permit is needed for every handgun you want to buy. And yes , here in Indiana a permit is not needed - but with a handgun permit , as you are well aware of , you walk out with your handgun in the time it takes to fill out the form and empty your wallet! Once when my permit expired (found out when trying to buy a revolver) she told me I would have to wait like 10 days to pick it up - I said the hec with that since it was not a local shop.

Hey - I see Jacksonville , NC is repesented here! That is where I lived at many years before moving to IN.

Mute
June 25, 2003, 01:03 PM
In Los Angeles County I have to become a politician, a judge or a famous celebrity. I don't want to be any one of the above.

grenadier
June 25, 2003, 03:05 PM
In South Carolina, 1996:

Went to the Sheriff's office, and picked up the application, and took a class, 8 hours total. At the end of the 8 hour class, you were given a written exam (just used common sense and all is well), as well as a test, where you shoot 50 rounds into a man-sized silhouette paper target. At least half of those shots were from 7 yards or less. 35/50 is passing (I scored 50/50). After that was done, the instructor signed the application.

Then, I went and got fingerprinted by the sheriff's office, and mailed the applications, and the fee, to the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED), and waited for 90 days, at the end of which, they finally sent back my application, claiming that my left ring finger's prints were unreadable. So, I got re-fingerprinted, and re-submitted the application, and after another 90 days, finally got the permit.

In Connecticut, 2001:

Took an 8 hour NRA safety course, then got the application from the Bristol, CT police department. This department made me get three letters of recommendation, one of which had to be from someone who knew me for over 10 years. None of the letters could come from family. Paid a fee, got fingerprinted at the PD, and after 8 weeks, got the local permit. That same day, I went to the DPS headquarters in Middletown, and got the full State Permit after paying a small fee, and filling out another application. I was in and out of the DPS building in 15 minutes, with my State permit. It's still good, even though I've moved to Alabama, and I can continue to renew it.

New Hampshire non-resident permit, 2001:

Download the form from the NH State Police website, fill it out, make a photocopy of my CT permit, enclose a check for 20 dollars, mail it off, and in 10 days, got my non-resident permit.

Alabama, 2002:

Went to the Shelby County Sheriff's office, asked the lady for a concealed firearms permit application, filled it out, let her conduct the background check, paid 20 dollars in cash, and was in and out of the Sheriff's department in 15 minutes.

Mike Irwin
June 25, 2003, 03:11 PM
Well, no true hoops, but Fairfax County does impose some pretty stupid photocopying requirements...

Then there's the parking situation at the County Courthouse...

P95Carry
June 25, 2003, 03:12 PM
Seems like AL is about nearest I've come across to PA (well my county anyways).

litework
June 25, 2003, 07:56 PM
I had to prove I had taken the Virginia Hunter's Safety Course, which was required to pass my Physical Education class in High School (way back when) anyway. The Hunter's Safety Education Course teaches proper firearm safety practices. I had to fill out an application and submit a payment of $50. The license is good for five years.

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