Whatís the most common used rifle ammo?


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joe2004
June 8, 2007, 03:20 AM
Well I learned a lot form you guys about the rimfire stuff..

Now I want to ask what the most common used rifle ammunition and the ammo thatís cheap compared to others. I figured if I want something cheap that shoots long range then I need a rifle that uses a common round and that's relatively available in lot of places

Thanks guys

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otomik
June 8, 2007, 03:40 AM
.308 Winchester / 7.62x51mm NATO
.30-06, good overall, can get cheap milsurplus occasionally
7.62x54mm Russian, an executive order similar to the one effecting 7.62mm tokarev could make this ammo expensive.
.223 Remington /5.56x45mm NATO, shoots flat but not that far, can get longer ranges with heavier bullets.
7.62x39mm Soviet, not that far, loopy trajectory
.22lr, really cheap, not going to be that useful past 100yrds
.22wmr, not that cheap, not much more powerful than good .22lr like velocitor

yongxingfreesty
June 8, 2007, 04:20 AM
long range for me is 200yds and I can get it done with the mini14 and ar15s

i would say 223 is pretty cheap back in the day and is available everywhere.
308 is prob the most common round for a "sniper"

Mannix
June 8, 2007, 05:55 AM
That depends on what application you will be using it for.

The most common "sniper" cartridges are the .308/ 7.62x51mm NATO, and the 30-06. Some milsurp 30-06 surfaces from time to time. Both the 30-06 and the .308 were extensively used in military weapons.

The most common mid range rifle round is probably the .223 followed by the 7.62x39mm, which doesn't have quite as much range as the .223.

The most common, and without a doubt the cheapest rifle cartridge is the .22lr. You just can't beat 20 bucks for 1000 rounds. Though the range is limited by the power of the cartridge and the weight of the bullet.

The cheapest centerfire rifle cartridge is probably the 7.62x54mm Russian. Surplus typically goes for ~$.10/round if you buy by the 1000 round can. Another plus is you can find Mosin Nagants going for about $60 at gun shows.

Magnum88C
June 8, 2007, 06:13 AM
Now I want to ask what the most common used rifle ammunition and the ammo thatís cheap compared to others. I figured if I want something cheap that shoots long range then I need a rifle that uses a common round and that's relatively available in lot of places


You probably won't find many places (if any) that sell guns and/or ammo that don't have .30'06 or .30-30 in stock. .30-30 will be cheaper than .30'06, but isn't as much of a long range shooter.

The cheapest centerfire ammo right now is going to be the aforementioned 7.62x54R. Not everybody carries this ammo, so it's a bit less common than '06 or .30-30. However, it's MUCH cheaper.

It also depends on what kind of rifle you want. 7.62x54R basically only comes in surplus or military-style rifles.

db_tanker
June 8, 2007, 07:12 AM
Magnum88C hit the one I was expecting to see with the 30 WCF. I love it here in Texas as you can drive around to some of the mom-n-pop stores and still see it on the shelf next to some 270, 30-06 and all variety of shotgun shells. :)

But...long range it isn't unless your a reloader and using a single shot. :D

308 and 30-06 are the two you need to keep an eye out for. Mebbe a possible second would be a 270 or 25-06. You didn't really specify a particular rifle so I am guessing a simple bolt gun.

There is still a rather large supply of 30-06 mil-surp out there at reasonable prices compared to 308/7.62x51 but you can still find the 308 commercial at reasonable rates IF you plan on shooting them out of a bolt instead of a battle rifle.

D

benEzra
June 8, 2007, 08:10 AM
In terms of annual sales, or number of rounds fired, it would be .223 and 7.62x39mm, assuming you're thinking of centerfire rounds (.22LR would be the top rimfire round, of course).

I'd guess .308 and perhaps .30-06 would be in the top five as well.

Wes Janson
June 8, 2007, 10:16 AM
If we include the entire world, I'm willing to bet that 7.62x39 is going to be the hands-down winner for most commonly used rifle cartridge (centerfire or not).

DMK
June 8, 2007, 01:23 PM
what the most common used rifle ammunition and the ammo that’s cheap compared to others.7.62x54R

You may not find any locally, but you can easily and cheaply buy enough online in a few months to last the rest of your life.

I stocked up well over 10,000 rounds of it in less than a year without even really trying. I just bought a case of this, a case of that to try different kinds in my rifles.

otomik
June 8, 2007, 01:46 PM
you look at all varieties of .22lr and at 100 yards they go or are about to go transonic, meaning a substantial decrease in accuracy. in ohio, hunting regs dictate you can't hunt deer with a rifle, so rifles aren't as popular as in other states, my local outdoor range only has 100 yards as it's longest range. so .22lr is a fine rifle cartridge for me, YMMV.

24kshooter
June 8, 2007, 01:56 PM
7.62x39 is least expensive most used ammo - followed by 223 REM then 308 WIN and 30:06. Cost vs quality is always a consideration - there is cheap ammo - 54R and Wolf, inexpensive ammo - WIN Value packs, AE 223, or PMC. UMC and WIN white box 308 or effective ammo - the ammo you reloaded your self or M118, XM193, M118 or Federal NM 168 308.

RNB65
June 8, 2007, 02:03 PM
What are you trying to do? Hunting? Paper punching?

For punching lots of holes in paper, .223 can't be beat. A CZ 527 in .223 with a good quality scope is more fun than a barrel full o' monkeys.

kellyj00
June 8, 2007, 03:33 PM
.416 shatech?
jk... .223/5.56 nato is probably THE MOST COMMON rifle ammo... 308 a close second.

Much like I'd venture that 9mm is most common pistol, with .45acp second.

Just a guess though.

joe2004
June 8, 2007, 06:03 PM
WOW lots of info thanks guys

So my next question would me what would be a decent gun that’s pretty good but not to expensive that will shoot the

223
308
7.62x39mm
7.62x54R

thank you

esmith
June 8, 2007, 06:12 PM
.223 and .308 have a lot bolt action rifles out that are pretty much fine with the exception of a few. Most companies make good .308s, just go on remingtons, weatherbys, ruger, etc.s websites for more information.

7.62 x 39 has the sks and some semi auto ak varieties. The sks is a fun rifle to shoot and are not that hard to find. However you may want to look into the different versions, as there are a few.

RNB65
June 8, 2007, 06:31 PM
So my next question would me what would be a decent gun thatís pretty good but not to expensive ...


Do you prefer semi-auto or bolt-action?

223 - CZ 527, Savage, or AR15.
308 - CZ or Savage bolt-action rifle.
7.62x39mm - AK, SKS, CZ 527 Carbine
7.62x54R - Surplus Russian Mosin-Nagant -- $59.99 at 7-11. :D

Outlaws
June 8, 2007, 06:41 PM
7.62x54R


:scrutiny:

Just because there is surplus doesn't make it easy to get at the last minute. I would bet there are more .223, .308, and .30-06 in peoples closets than that anyways. Probably more .270 too. Of course I am referring to America only because otherwise it would be 7.62x39 hands down.

DMK
June 8, 2007, 08:49 PM
Just because there is surplus doesn't make it easy to get at the last minute. It is for me! :D

Well, maybe you're right. Those tins can take 15-20 minutes to get open...

Why would one wait until the last minute to get ammo anyway? That's just poor planning. :scrutiny:

docgary
June 8, 2007, 09:22 PM
So my next question would me what would be a decent gun thatís pretty good but not to expensive that will shoot...

Without a doubt, the .223 AR-15!!

The perfect, all around rifle...

short barrel (up to 16") - great for CQB, accurate and deadly to +100 yds
medium barrel (18-20) - perfect for hunting, scouting, taking 'point'
long barrel - (24) -......great sniper rifle...good to 1000 yds if you have the perfect ammo and skills
self loaded matchgrade ammo....30 cents/rd

A thousand companies to choose from with a million accessories to make it a tack driver

Hell, most any AR-15 from a decent manufacturer shoots MOA or less out-of-the-box!
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collateral
June 8, 2007, 10:42 PM
Honestly, if you can find a WASR 2 in good condition, 5.45x39 can be found for pretty cheap. Its not what Id consider common, but you can buy cases of 1000 from cheaperthandirt.com for 184.87. that averages out to about 18 cents a round. I have seen a lot of gun stores carry it though. Its accurate up to 4-500 yards.

As far as a really affordable gun and ammunition, an SKS is the way to go. Dirt cheap. I get good groups at 150 yards, but I havent really shot it further than that.

RNB65
June 8, 2007, 10:50 PM
Don't forget that 7.62x54R is corrosive, so you'll have to clean the heck out of your gun right after shooting it if you don't want the bore to pit and corrode.

glockman19
June 8, 2007, 11:59 PM
.308 Winchester / 7.62x51mm NATO
.30-06, good overall, can get cheap milsurplus occasionally
7.62x54mm Russian, an executive order similar to the one effecting 7.62mm tokarev could make this ammo expensive.
.223 Remington /5.56x45mm NATO, shoots flat but not that far, can get longer ranges with heavier bullets.
7.62x39mm Soviet, not that far, loopy trajectory
.22lr, really cheap, not going to be that useful past 100yrds
.22wmr, not that cheap, not much more powerful than good .22lr like velocitor
Everything he said +1
Tok the words right out of my mouth

KC&97TA
June 9, 2007, 12:37 AM
.308 Winchester / 7.62x51mm NATO
.30-06, good overall, can get cheap milsurplus occasionally
7.62x54mm Russian, an executive order similar to the one effecting 7.62mm tokarev could make this ammo expensive.
.223 Remington /5.56x45mm NATO, shoots flat but not that far, can get longer ranges with heavier bullets.
7.62x39mm Soviet, not that far, loopy trajectory
.22lr, really cheap, not going to be that useful past 100yrds
.22wmr, not that cheap, not much more powerful than good .22lr like velocitor

Not a fan of 7.62x54 or 7.62x39 or .22wmr - everything else is Great IMHO

I'm a fan of what Walmart and the Gas station "out in the middle of no were" sells, 30-30, 30-06, 308, 223, 243, 270, 300 win mag and a few others.

MNgoldenbear
June 9, 2007, 01:08 AM
Gee, I don't know if I'd buy "used rifle ammo", common or not. Kind of sounds like the old kiddie joke about the guy who couldn't figure out why the match wouldn't work, though it had worked fine a minute ago. :D:D:D

Seriously though, you've gotten many good recommendations here. Surplus stuff is cheaper for plinking. ARs and bolt guns can be had for reasonable prices and can be made relatively accurate without too much trouble (depends on your definitions of "accurate" and "trouble").

GigaBuist
June 9, 2007, 01:49 AM
Don't forget that 7.62x54R is corrosive, so you'll have to clean the heck out of your gun right after shooting it if you don't want the bore to pit and corrode.Uhm, ignore that. Sorta. Any 7.62x54R ammo that is -surplus- should be suspected as corrosive unless you know for sure it isn't. However, there's plenty of commercial stuff out there (Wolf) that's modern and non corrosive.

That said, when did 8mm stop being the cheapest stuff out there? Last I knew it was down to 6 cents a round.

otomik
June 9, 2007, 01:58 AM
So my next question would me what would be a decent gun that’s pretty good but not to expensive that will shoot theIt would help if you could be more specific as to what you want out of this rifle, the choices are vast. hunting? 2nd amendment? home defense? history? tactical? target? shtf (and what subgenres of shtf)?

joe2004
June 9, 2007, 03:24 AM
otomik

i mostly want it for just shooting and once in a while go hunting with it

otomik
June 9, 2007, 05:19 AM
double post

otomik
June 9, 2007, 05:24 AM
in that case i second RBN65's choices, maybe add Tikka T3 and Ishapore Enfield in .308
223 - CZ 527, Savage, or AR15.
308 - CZ or Savage bolt-action rifle.
7.62x39mm - AK, SKS, CZ 527 Carbine
7.62x54R - Surplus Russian Mosin-Nagant -- $59.99 at 7-11.

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