June 8, 2007, 03:27 PM
Hi guys
need a little help, does anyone use clays powder for reloading 9mm? I'm

loading 124 gr oregon trail lazercast bullets. I have clays because I also load

shotgun. . what do you use?

also having a problem with getting the bullet seated right,seating them to

deep, not as easy as the seating the 270 any suggestions I'm new to loading




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June 8, 2007, 03:37 PM
I use HS-6 exclusively. But I have used Power Pistol and Herco in the past with complete satisfaction.

Actually, I like the performance of Herco a little better, but it doesn't meter through a powder measure very well.

AAC#7 is also superb. In fact, AAC#7 was formulated by the Israelis specifically for 9MM rounds for the UZI.

June 8, 2007, 05:08 PM
I like WSF, AA# 5, Universal Clays, N330.

Clays is a bit fast, but will work. Don't expect top end loads with it, but with lead I expect you are looking for around 1000 FPS. Clays should do that.

kart racer
June 8, 2007, 05:48 PM
I use 3.3-3.6 of clays with 124 fmj seated at 1.115.Lyman's book shows 2.2-3.1 seated at the same depth for 125 gr lead bullet.

June 8, 2007, 05:49 PM
Power Pistol, HS6 are my favs. 3.6gr clays under a 115fmj, gave me 1050fps, and very soft shooting, that is my 9yr olds fav:D

June 8, 2007, 09:12 PM
My two favorite powders for 9mm are Titegroup and HS-6. Both shoot excellent and meter good in my powder measure.

June 8, 2007, 09:20 PM
I like Longshot over clays

June 8, 2007, 10:31 PM

W231/HP-38 for 115 gr bullets, HS-6 for 124/125 gr bullets and Longshot or WSF for 147 gr bullets.

Clays give you slower velocity with high pressure in a 9mm round.

June 8, 2007, 11:11 PM
Most of my reloads are cast lead but occasionally put together some with jacketed bullets. 231 works OK with lighter cast bullet loads but for my gun I like AA5 and HS6 better with both lead and jacketed bullets.

June 9, 2007, 12:19 AM
Unique, U. Clays, W231. I load only light to moderate lead or plated loads, however.

June 9, 2007, 09:09 AM
My pet load is VV N310 and a 147gr Berry's

June 9, 2007, 11:19 AM
Agree with ArchAngel, clays is entirely too much pressure for not much results.

June 9, 2007, 01:10 PM
It really depends on what level of performance you're after. For plinking loads, any number of powders can be used. Putting a little more flare on the casemouth may help your seating problem. You might also want to check the diameter of the expander to make sure it is not undersized. The LaserCast bullets are typically sized .356" for 9mm.

For higher performing JHP loads, it will also depend on the performance you want. For 115 and 124 gr. JHPs, HS-6 is very good. For best performance with 147 gr. JHPs: AA#7. If you want highest velocity with minimum flash for a defense type load, or one to replicate your factory carry load, I've used V-V 3N37 for about 15 years for all three common defense weights. Vectan SP-2 when it was available. The powder I am using now is very much like 3N37, cost less and has very low muzzle flash: Ramshot Silhouette. Similar in burn rate to WSF, HS-6, 3N37 and Power Pistol.

People tend to have different opinions about the performance a powder is capable of. I don't advocate this except for those who are very experienced handloaders who have 9mm pistols that are capable of firing 9mm with very long OACLs, but among the guys that load mostly 115 and 124 gr. JHPs for 9mm Major Competition ( 165 PF: 1331 FPS with a 124 gr. JHP from 5' barrels ) with mostly 1911s that allow the very long lengths exceeding the 1.169" spec, you'll see about five powders used most often. HS-6, V-V 3N37, Ramshot True Blue and Ramshot Silhouette is fast becoming a favorite. Longshot is used by some guys, but at higher pressure it gets very loud.

For a load that will duplicate the performance of a very good defense load like the SPEER 124 gr. +P Gold Dot, Silhouette is excellent.;)

June 9, 2007, 05:49 PM
I used AA#5 for many years until it became unavailable. Then tried Universal Clays but didn't get the best metering with my Lee powder measures, so switched to Power Pistol. All worked fine for my 124g FMJ IDPA competition loads. Now that #5 is available again I may go back to it when I finish the PP. Just because I've always liked the AA powders - almost all of 'em meter beautifully in my progressive presses.

June 12, 2007, 01:32 PM
thanks for all the response ,made a list and will go to my local store and see what they have.the stores ive look at don't have a big selection but help is on the way they are building a new Sportsmen Warehouse here

Thanks again


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