How many Presidential candidates are NRA members?


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Rembrandt
June 9, 2007, 06:26 PM
So how many Presidential candidates from both parties are NRA members?

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SIOP
June 9, 2007, 07:29 PM
Doesn't matter, because the ones that are are just posers anyway, with the possible exception of Ron Paul.

Rembrandt
June 9, 2007, 08:32 PM
I think it does matter and says something about the candidate. A membership would be a pretty good indication if they're gun friendly or not.

pcosmar
June 9, 2007, 08:37 PM
You mean like Romney who "supports the 2nd amendment" and an AWB.

FXWG
June 9, 2007, 08:42 PM
The real question should be...
If they are an NRA member, when did they join?
Sending in your membership paperwork two weeks
after you join the presidential race is more than just
a little disingenuous.:(

pcosmar
June 9, 2007, 08:55 PM
The question should be who actually supports the 2nd amendment.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 9, 2003

Restoring the Second Amendment

Mr. Speaker, I rise to restore the right the founding fathers saw as the guarantee of every other right by introducing the Second Amendment Protection Act. This legislation reverses the steady erosion of the right to keep and bear arms by repealing unconstitutional laws that allow power-hungry federal bureaucrats to restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

Specifically, my legislation repeals the five-day waiting period and the "instant" background check, which enables the federal government to compile a database of every gun owner in America. My legislation also repeals the misnamed ban on "semi-automatic" weapons, which bans entire class of firearms for no conceivable reason beside the desire of demagogic politicians to appear tough on crime. Finally, my bill amends the Gun Control Act of 1968 by deleting the "sporting purposes" test, which allows the Treasury Secretary to infringe on second amendment rights by classifying a firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun) as a "destructive device" simply because the Secretary believes the gun to be "non-sporting."

Thomas Jefferson said "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; ...that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." Jefferson, and all of the Founders, would be horrified by the proliferation of unconstitutional legislation that prevents law-abiding Americans form exercising their right and duty to keep and bear arms. I hope my colleagues will join me in upholding the Founders' vision for a free society by cosponsoring the Second Amendment Restoration Act.
Who was a willing cosponsor of this bill?
and some more good reading.
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=145
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=301

Rembrandt
June 9, 2007, 09:00 PM
I see no problem with Romney being an NRA member or when he joined. I sat down and had a long talk about this with Senator Larry Craig (Utah), who is supporting him. Mitt made a couple of early campaign goofs, and learned from his mistakes.

No one from this forum came out of the womb with an advanced knowledge of the second amendment....your support and understanding took time. I'd rather have a new 2nd Amendment supporter that is in the learning process than one that working against you. Anyone think that Senator Larry Craig wouldn't be an excellent mentor for Romney?



The question should be who actually supports the 2nd amendment.

This post isn't about Romney or who supports the 2nd, it's about what candidates are NRA members. If you want to know start your own thread and ask the question.

Sry0fcr
June 9, 2007, 09:28 PM
Anyone think that Senator Larry Craig wouldn't be an excellent mentor for Romney?

Considering the state of Massachusetts' gun laws, and Romney's support for another AWB any "mentoring" is likely to bee seen as posturing. But hey, that's just me.

Lupinus
June 9, 2007, 09:30 PM
Doesn't really matter. Anyone can be a member of the NRA, just like anyone can go duck hunting. Even if they are NRA members they can still be posers or just as bad (if not worse) elitest aholes that could care less about the right to keep and bare arms so long as their 10,000 dollar shotgun isn't in jeopordy.

pcosmar
June 9, 2007, 09:38 PM
This post isn't about Romney or who supports the 2nd, it's about what candidates are NRA members. If you want to know start your own thread and ask the question.
Sorry, my mistake.
I thought it might be 2nd amendment related.

cbsbyte
June 9, 2007, 10:19 PM
Considering the state of Massachusetts' gun laws, and Romney's support for another AWB any "mentoring" is likely to bee seen as posturing. But hey, that's just me.

Well to be fair the gun laws in Mass where restrictive way before Romney became governor. He actually did not pass any new gun laws while in office. The AWB he did sign into law was only a copy of the original law that was enacted in 1994, this was rewrite to clear up some confusing language in the original law. It actually helped gun owners in this state That being said Romney is a ultimate example of a politician who will say and do anything to get elected.

Nil
June 9, 2007, 11:06 PM
I'm unsure of Bill Richardson's NRA membership status but I know he has a concealed carry permit.

Outlaws
June 9, 2007, 11:27 PM
NRA memberships means jack squat. Michael Moore has one. He used it to get an interview with Heston, then insult and mock him.

Get an NRA membership and swindle your way to el Presidente.

Green Lantern
June 9, 2007, 11:34 PM
Romney, the "lifetime" NRA member who just signed up when he got Presidential ambitions. Just like how he's hunted "all his life" - he's been twice.

No sir, don't trust him a bit!

feedthehogs
June 10, 2007, 10:30 AM
your support and understanding took time

Only if your a complete moron with no reading comprehension skills.

"Shall not be infringed" is a 6th grade comprehension level statement.

Mitt made a couple of early campaign goofs, and learned from his mistakes.

Or he just learned how to play the political game. Tell the public what they want to hear.

Rembrandt
June 10, 2007, 10:46 AM
....Only if your a complete moron with no reading comprehension skills...."Shall not be infringed" is a 6th grade comprehension level statement.

Funny you should bring up reading comprehension.....appears the question wasn't simple enough for most to understand. Rather than give a direct answer to a direct question, most have gotten side tracked with their bloviating.

Sodbuster
June 10, 2007, 10:52 AM
I remember when Larry Craig represented the good people of Idaho. He must have moved. ;)

Rembrandt
June 10, 2007, 11:15 AM
Heehee, Thanks Sodbuster.....those rocky mountain states all look alike.

marie
June 10, 2007, 11:31 AM
True. Larry Craig isn't very well thought of here in Idaho. He represents and supports big business interests, e.g., timber, mining, and supports illegal immigration, etc. Traitor.

TrybalRage
June 10, 2007, 11:45 AM
I see no problem with Romney being an NRA member or when he joined. I sat down and had a long talk about this with Senator Larry Craig (Utah), who is supporting him. Mitt made a couple of early campaign goofs, and learned from his mistakes.

I think it's a BIG problem. He became a life member last year, and he hasn't learned squat. In the debates he pretty much bragged about signing the AWB.

Rembrandt
June 10, 2007, 11:49 AM
I give up......appears the question is too difficult to answer. Out of all the responses only two tried to answer it. Getting a straight answer is like asking a drunk driver to keep the car between the lines.

Lupinus
June 10, 2007, 12:38 PM
perhaps you should consider the question asked in the first place.

Green Lantern
June 10, 2007, 01:11 PM
perhaps you should consider the question asked in the first place.

Exactly! Most of us here can't cite who is and who isn't an NRA member in the crop of candidates because it is irrelevant as to whether or not they are true supporters of the 2nd!

SentWest
June 10, 2007, 01:45 PM
I don't know if Duncan Hunter is a member, but he has a A+ rating from the NRA and:

Voted to prohibit product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers.
Voted to lower the wait time for guns purchased at shows from 3 days to 24 hours.
Voted to prohibit suing gunmakers and sellers for gun misuse.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Duncan_Hunter_Gun_Control.htm

Here's a March interview with a blogger regarding 2nd amendment rights (Via Free Republic):

“The right to keep and bear arms is an absolute right of Americans to protect their families and their communities and their nation with firearms.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1804274/posts

Lone_Gunman
June 10, 2007, 02:59 PM
Rembrandt, why do you want to know who is an NRA member?

In what way do you think it matters?

I am not trying to be snide or insulting, I seriously want to know why you are asking is all.

feedthehogs
June 10, 2007, 05:03 PM
If you want a short answer to your question, try a poll.
Debate is part of any discussion.

gopguy
June 11, 2007, 05:02 PM
Not just a matter of if they are but when they got it. Did they just sign up recently because it looks good on your campaign resume or have they been a member for years or decades like many of us. I have often asked a supposedly pro-gun canidate if they are a member of NRA or GOA. If I get a yes I ask when they joined, then it gets interesting.

ServiceSoon
June 11, 2007, 10:47 PM
Romney has had 60 years to fully understand the constitution he agreed to uphold...I don't think another year and a half is going to change his mind. If you think otherwise you are kidding yourself.

stevelyn
June 11, 2007, 11:15 PM
It doesn't matter if they're NRA members or not. Their past voting records and history is what reveals their true colors.

gego
June 11, 2007, 11:23 PM
I am not a member of the NRA, but I own many guns and understand the 2nd amendment to be both an absolute and a personal right.

Seems to me the NRA just keeps compromising away rights that they have no authority to compromise.

So how is a candidate belonging to the NRA an indication of anything?

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