BP Picture Thread
Seancass
June 10, 2007, 12:43 PM
ok, i searched for an hour and went back 2 years and i didnt find a decent thread of pictures, so we need one. if i missed it, link to it and then post your pics!
i'll start with pics of guns i dont own.
these are linked because they're HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://media.benelliusa.com/Upload/Uberti/Glamour-Photos/glm-dragoon.jpg
http://media.benelliusa.com/Upload/Uberti/Glamour-Photos/glm-paterson.jpg
http://media.benelliusa.com/Upload/Uberti/Glamour-Photos/glm-army.jpg
http://media.benelliusa.com/Upload/Uberti/Glamour-Photos/glm-navy.jpg
oh, and this is mostly just encouragement for me to go get a new toy:D
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Phantom Captain
June 10, 2007, 01:06 PM
Ok, I'll play! Everyone loves showing off their stuff right?
Here's mine. Uberti's: 2nd Model Dragoon, NMA 58 stainless Remington, 1851 Navy and an 1861 Navy from 1971 (my dad's). Pietta: 1860 Army. Colt 2nd Generation 1860 Army. Euroarms Richmond Musket .58. Pedersoli 1861 Springfield .58.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/civil%20war%20weapons/all1.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/civil%20war%20weapons/all2.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/civil%20war%20weapons/all5.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Colt%20Army/new8.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Colt%20Army/new11.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/shooting/adj03.jpg
This is my Dad's recently finished Hawken .54. Took him a long time to get around to finishing it but it's really sweet! Thought I would share a few of that as well. I think it's beautiful and he really did an amazing job on it!
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/new%20shooting/Hawken2.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/new%20shooting/Hawkenadjusted.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/new%20shooting/IMG_0886.jpg
Seancass
June 14, 2007, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the pics Captain.
i'm not gunna lie, the rest of your are really disapointing me.
mykeal
June 14, 2007, 01:31 PM
...not comfortable doing that. But here goes:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Colt%202nd%20Dragoon/650.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Colt%201851%20Navy/726.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Colt%201861%20Navy/R0010931.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Colt%201862%20Police/663.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Colt%20SAA/657.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Remington%20New%20Navy/665.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Rogers%20and%20Spencer/625.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Starr/669.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/CVA%20Derringer/589.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/CVA%20Kentucky%20Pistol/563.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/CVA%20Hawken/584.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/524.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/CVA%20Kentucky%20Rifle/550.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/CVA%20Mountain/595.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Navy%20Arms%2012%20ga%20SxS/753.jpg
I have a CVA 12 ga SxS double that I just finished building from a kit I bought back in 1981, but I don't have pictures of it yet. It needs a little maturing before it's photogenic...
Warren
June 14, 2007, 02:32 PM
How did people safely carry loaded single shots?
Great looking guns BTW.
Seancass
June 14, 2007, 02:42 PM
by not dropping them?
or are the bullets going so slow that they can be effectively dodged?
thanks for posting mykeal. i really like the looks of the 62 police.
SAKOHUNTER
June 14, 2007, 03:58 PM
Nice guns fellows!:cool:
Can't believe there is not a Walker in those pics!:D
Phantom Captain
June 14, 2007, 04:11 PM
Hehe,
My Dad is my BP shooting buddy. He's been trying to twist my arm into buying a Walker for some time now. It's slowly sinking in. Soon, I say, soon......
:D
I always tell him, I already have a Dragoon!! And he says, yeah, but it ain't a Walker.
SAKOHUNTER
June 14, 2007, 04:20 PM
LOL!
I'm getting one next weekend at Sportsman's Warehouse......counting the days!!:D
mukluk
June 14, 2007, 05:37 PM
Uberti Walker:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/SMLE1918/BP/Walker.jpg
Colt 3rd Md. Dragoon:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/SMLE1918/BP/Dragoon.jpg
mykeal
June 14, 2007, 07:00 PM
The top two on my wish list are a Uberti Walker and Ruger Old Army - no particular order, just the first good deal I find, I buy. Then maybe get into a flinter...
Phantom Captain
June 14, 2007, 07:56 PM
mukluk, that's a purty Walker! The 2nd gen Dragoon is mighty fine as well. I love the Dragoons, they are just soo much fun.
mykeal, REALLY like your Rogers and Spencer and your 73 SAA WOW! Beautiful. How do you like shooting that one?! Your single shots are all really nice too especially the Hawkens. My Dad has a really nice set of dueling pistols, I should take a few pics of his stuff. He's got some fine things as well including a H. House rifle.
Your long guns are sweet! Which is your fav?
Dad's Hawken is a curly maple stock, buckhorn sights, douglas barrel!! He got the barrel some 30 years ago. He's big into the flintlocks too.
Phantom Captain
June 14, 2007, 08:23 PM
Warren,
One way I've heard was with a piece of leather that was strung. You just laid the leather over the capped nipple and the hammer down on top of that. Not sure how absolutely historically correct that is but it's one way i've heard.
With the flintlocks they had a leather cover that would slide over the frizzen and then carried at half cock, that way even if the hammer fell it wouldn't spark.
jrfoxx
June 14, 2007, 09:50 PM
Wow, mine looks so plain and boring csmpared to the stuff you guys have....guess I'll just have get some more to redeem myself :D. (thanks for giving me an excuse guys!)
Traditions "Crockett" .32 cal.Its a hoot to fire, and I was AMAZED at how acurate it is.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/jrfoxx/crocket32cal.jpg
next I plan to get a nice flintlock rifle.Something about the flintlocks just looksso cool...
Also need to get a revolver so I can live out ome childhood cowby fantases...:)
and, I know this is sort of "cheating", but it WAS designed for blackpowder ammo, so, I'm gonna include it so my measly 1 bp gun post doesn't look quite so sad....:)
Iver Johnson 2nd Model top beak 1896 to 1908
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/jrfoxx/iverjohnson.jpg
jackinil
June 14, 2007, 10:36 PM
Here's mine,all long guns:Left to right,1842 Armisport[smoothbore],original M1861 Springfield,Euroarms Enfield,Navy Arms Smith Carbine.
J.Schmidt,46th Illinois,N-SSAhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/jackinil/Picture.jpg
mykeal
June 14, 2007, 10:37 PM
Phantom Captain - The '73 is a fine shooter, but a real PITA to reload (that's why I have two spare cylinders). There's no loading lever (the ejection rod is totally useless with a c&b cylinder) so the cylinder has to be removed and loaded using a loading stand. Swapping cylinders is fairly easy and quick, however.
I cannot honestly pick a favorite long gun; each has it's own good and bad points. Both shoot well, the Kentucky is more accurate, but the Mountain carries easier and points easier. I built both of them, and the single shot pistols, back in the early 80's.
oneshooter
June 15, 2007, 07:03 PM
Here are a few.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=59452&stc=1&d=1181948305
The targets were shot using the Dragoon at 25yds.
Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
Gewehr98
June 18, 2007, 09:34 PM
70gr Goex Cartridge Grade under a 530gr Postell:
http://mauser98.com/completeround.jpg
Mrs. G-98 with Sharps loaded and front trigger set, ready to launch:
http://mauser98.com/denaquigleybefore.jpg
Moment of truth. "Houston, we have lift-off!":
http://mauser98.com/denaquigleyafter.jpg
Followed immediately by her exclaiming:
"Ohmygawsh! Sweetie, did you hear that thing hit the berm just now?"
brentn
June 19, 2007, 03:44 PM
These pictures are awesome! man, so many nice fine pieces of history here.
Really want to get a walker now, not to sure if my dealer can get it in but I'm going to check.
One thing I hate about most of the colts is that ****ty blu-ing process with the frame, hammer, and loading lever. Its like it was lightly brushed on and it looks dirty. Is that how it came out of the factory back in the 1800's? WIth my current army that I'm working on i removed the bluing from the frame, hammer, trigger and loading lever. Used some oil and 600grit wet paper to sorta polish it and then steel whool to finish it off. Looks AMAZING, like as if it just came out of the factory back in the 1800's.
I plan to do this with any other colt that I buy. The 1858 remingtons have an equal amount of bluing on all the parts and I quite like that better than having a 'brushed on" look.
Anyone else agree?
Seancass
June 19, 2007, 05:22 PM
better post some pics so we can all see what you mean:D
oneshooter
June 19, 2007, 05:27 PM
Are you refering to the "color case hardening" on those parts? When done properly this is a truly beautiful finish!!
Unfortunitly it is an expensive finish, and done the old way, somewhat dangerous as I believe that arsenic is used. :what:
More info here:http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-199042.html
Oneshooter
Livinin Texas
Jamie C.
June 19, 2007, 05:56 PM
One thing I hate about most of the colts is that ****ty blu-ing process with the frame, hammer, and loading lever. Its like it was lightly brushed on and it looks dirty.
Bren, that's not bluing. Those parts are case-hardened, and that mottled blue-brown-gold color is what the metal turns when it's heat treated. And yes, it's traditional.
The dark modern blue that you see on the barrel and other parts isn't, by the way. The process used back in the 1800s left the steel a very bright blue... nowhere near as dark as what's put on guns these days.
As for the Remingtons... I'm not sure if their frames were ever color case hardened originally or not. I know you can get copies now that are, but that doesn't mean much. And you'll pay a bit extra for the CCH guns.
Anyway, if you bought a new Colt revolver in the 1860s, it'd look pretty close to what the better copies do nowdays. They didn't come from the factory looking worn and scruffy. Time and used did that. ;)
This is pretty close to what a new gun would look like in the 1800s: Charcoal blued, color case hardened Colt copy (http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/PhotoGalleries/Images/MP-CB-Watch.jpg)
Oh, and one last thing... you can order a Walker from any number of places online, and they'll ship it straight to your door. No need for any "dealer".
My 1858 copy came from HERE (http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/), and was delivered in about 3 days. They have Walkers too.
J.C.
Phantom Captain
June 19, 2007, 07:38 PM
You mean this s****y blueing??
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Colt%20Army/IMG_1001.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Colt%20Army/IMG_10041.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Colt%20Army/IMG_0999.jpg
:D
Sorry, I just couldn't resist. We all learn one way or another.
Rembrandt
June 19, 2007, 08:09 PM
Afraid mine are on the modern side....Knight MK85, first year of manufacture w/Swarovski. Second rifle is a Knight Grand American w/Ziess optics. Both are proven deer rifles.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Knight2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Knight1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Knight5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Knight3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Knight4.jpg
brentn
June 19, 2007, 10:57 PM
dude this is blackpowder, only way you should be posting that is if its using a 45/70 cartridge heh...
Anyways, yea thats what I meant by the bluing, and I don't think thats whats left from case hardening, as I used de-bluing treatment and it took it right off. I put some bluing on it after it was off, in hopes to get a 'consistant' finish. What happened was exactly as before, so I took it off again and now have a steel look.
I have a new thread going about my conversion, if you guys can answer some questions I will post some pics of my work. Nothing fancy but interesting non-the-less
Jamie C.
June 19, 2007, 11:02 PM
Brent, Rembrandt's gun is a modern in-line MUZZLE-LOADER. It uses the same stuff that any other "front-stuffer" does.. ie. caps, Black Powder, Pyrodex, etc.
J.C.
brentn
June 19, 2007, 11:10 PM
had no idea, apologies. I took a look at the bolt action there and just 'assumed' it was something not of this forum topic.
Thats probably the nicest looking rifle I've ever seen btw, had NO IDEA that it was a muzzle loader.
CavemanEngineer
June 19, 2007, 11:27 PM
I like the stock coloring but I am not into the sniper type thing. It looks beautiful and very worthy of the pics. Please tell me what it is and how it works as I was thinking it doesn't look like any front stuffer I have seen. What is the bolt for? What does it shoot? The scope throws me off also, what is it's range? Thanks for showing it.
mykeal
June 19, 2007, 11:51 PM
I didn't post this picture earlier as I assumed we wanted only the more traditional bp weapons.
This is my Traditions Lightning, a .50 cal muzzleloading bp rifle. It shoots on a par with my Winchester Model 70 30.06 at 100 yards. The bolt contains the firing pin, or "hammer" that strikes a musket cap on a nipple in the breech, which is closed. It's loaded from the muzzle just like my CVA .50 cal Mountain rifle. I shoot Powerbelt conical rounds with 777 loose powder, about 100 gr of ffg.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Tradtions%20Lightning/834.jpg
taralon
June 24, 2007, 01:49 PM
An Uberti 1873 Cattleman with the Bird's Head Grip.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/taralon_phoenix/1873_Cattleman.jpg
oneshooter
June 24, 2007, 02:11 PM
mykeal, there is a difference between a "firing pin" and a "hammer". A firing pin can be struck by the hammer and in turn strikes the primer. Or, a hammer can strike the primer directly.
Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
mykeal
June 24, 2007, 05:26 PM
Oneshooter - I am aware of the difference. That's the reason the word 'hammer' was in quotes: "hammer".
brentn
June 25, 2007, 03:15 PM
http://members.shaw.ca/brent_nowell/main/Images/Enfield/Markings3.jpg
I have one of these, real deal too. Been passed down in the family for quite some time, I believe it was bought new back in 58. Not to sure, there are markings all over it but I don't know what they mean.
akolleth
June 26, 2007, 06:26 AM
CVA Missouri hunter (bought at a gun show for $100 otd)
http://home.earthlink.net/~akolleth/missouri1.jpg
Cincinnati Slim
June 26, 2007, 09:36 AM
Here's a couple of Shootin' Irons with shorter barrels...
Both Piettas, stainless cylinders and nickel plated trigger guard/backstrap (fer easy cleanin'), Buffalo Bros faux ivory on the Colt, GripMaker "Stag" on the Remmie, cut a dovetail for a Marble's bead front sight on the 1860. Got a Kirst Konverter for the Remmie and a R&D "drop-in" for the Colt. Home made loading stand, "Dick Dastardly" cylinder loader. Holster from Rudy Lozano at Black Hills Leather down in Texas.
Cincinnati Slim
ED21
June 26, 2007, 11:54 AM
Phantom Captain: This is my Dad's recently finished Hawken .54. Took him a long time to get around to finishing it but it's really sweet! Thought I would share a few of that as well. I think it's beautiful and he really did an amazing job on it!
Great looking rifle. Was this a kit? Who made the parts? I had to do a double take as it looks very much like mine. I have a Hawken by Sharon in .62 cal. It's a tack driver, or was when I was shooting alot. I use to shoot over 1000 rounds each year with it. Sort of miss those days. Anyway, your dad did a grat job on that rifle.
Jamie C.
June 26, 2007, 12:01 PM
I have one of these, real deal too. Been passed down in the family for quite some time, I believe it was bought new back in 58. Not to sure, there are markings all over it but I don't know what they mean.
Am I the only one curious to see the whole gun here?
C'mon, Brent... don't be a tease. If it was made in 1868 it qualifies as a BP gun, even if it was intended to use BP cartridges.
J.C.
Phantom Captain
June 26, 2007, 12:46 PM
Great looking rifle. Was this a kit? Who made the parts? I had to do a double take as it looks very much like mine. I have a Hawken by Sharon in .62 cal. It's a tack driver, or was when I was shooting alot. I use to shoot over 1000 rounds each year with it. Sort of miss those days. Anyway, your dad did a grat job on that rifle.
Hi Ed21,
Yep, I love it and am totally impressed with it too!
It wasn't a kit, he just did everything from a drawing.
It has a Douglas Barrel .54 purchased in 1974 for $37.50!
Peter Alan Lock, hook breech and breech plug, trigger guard and butt plate
North Star Triggers
Premium Curly Maple stock with 1" inlet from Dixie Gun Works in 1974 for $44.50!! He bought it at Friendship he thinks. Or maybe the barrel was bought at Friendship. Hehe. He doesn't quite remember the details exactly.
He spent just under $200 for everything. This is back in 74 mind you. I was four years old!
It's a shooter! Really really impressive. He did an amazing job. Only took him 30 or so years to finish it. Said raising the family might have gotten in the way. :D
Wouldn't mind seeing a pic of yours just to compare!
brentn
June 27, 2007, 01:50 PM
Its a snyder enfield. Snyders were originally percussion cap guns fitted with a loadable breech instead of using the muzzle with powder and ball. They used a .577 bullet with a paper or metallic cartridge loaded with BP.
There is a website that allows me to buy snyder cartridges, some guy makes them out of 24 gauge shotshells (brass) and black powder. However they're crazy expensive, and although I would still pay for some, I cannot as I'm across the US border and they won't ship that kind of stuff over.
Anyways, there are more pics on the link below. http://members.shaw.ca/brent_nowell/main/Images/Enfield/
Excuse the trigger lock, but at the time it was the first actual firearm I ever did own, and used it for a while. Nowadays I don't even bother, complete waste of time as cartridges aren't even available for this thing.. Its not even registered, let alone cannot be registered anyways. The government won't register it, even though its a centerfire gun and regardless of when it was made has to be registered... could be the fact that it doesn't even have a serial number lol.
Anyways, I have no idea what its worth, but the bore is 'slightly' rusted with a little bit of pitting. Not too bad for a black powder.
My grandpa used to use it with his friggen dad to hunt! they still had some vintage cartridges back in the 1920's when they were using it and it was a one shot one kill type of thing. They wouldn't miss as the cartridges were way to rare.
I would love to know how the hell it came to be, who's held it, how many people its killed (if any)...
Impossible to know.
Old Dragoon
June 27, 2007, 03:24 PM
Phantom Captian,
I probably bumped into your dad at Friendship once or twice. North Starr was owned by Curly Kurstomski(sic). His main line of guns were trade fusils.
I camped on the primitive range with the guys from the 64th Virginia Vol. Infantry.
I used to run with the guys from Illinois, Barry Anderson, Blue Jacket Sanders, and that bunch, and the Guys from Ohio and Indiana, I lived in Max Vickery's House in Muncie Ind. for a while. He was my main mentor, along with Pa Keeler and Art Holley.
Last time I was there was in 1976.
Jamie C.
June 27, 2007, 03:49 PM
Hey Brent, thanks for the pics. Cool gun.
Yeah, it would be interesting to know it's history. Had a couple of Swede Mausers that I'd have liked to known the background on. Even had a cartridge belt with somebody's name written on it, that went along with 'em. I guess all that info is just lost to time.
J.C.
Phantom Captain
June 27, 2007, 04:31 PM
Phantom Captian,
I probably bumped into your dad at Friendship once or twice. North Starr was owned by Curly Kurstomski(sic). His main line of guns were trade fusils.
I camped on the primitive range with the guys from the 64th Virginia Vol. Infantry.
I used to run with the guys from Illinois, Barry Anderson, Blue Jacket Sanders, and that bunch, and the Guys from Ohio and Indiana, I lived in Max Vickery's House in Muncie Ind. for a while. He was my main mentor, along with Pa Keeler and Art Holley.
Last time I was there was in 1976.
Wow cool! Yep, you probably did! We have a trade gun that was built by Blue Jacket Sanders! Dad has a H. House rifle too! I need to take and post some more pics! Did you know Vern Christiansan or Tom Kodyker? I'm originally from NW Indiana and Dad still lives there.
I told my Dad to jump in and say hi, he's a big time lurker. He may be around shortly!
Old Dragoon
June 27, 2007, 05:08 PM
I knew Vern fer sure. Tom too I think But never really knew his last name. Doc Andy Baker, Danny (from Illinois,( Cannot recall this minute his last name) he went on to shoot single shot BPCR and moved to Montana).
The guys from H & B Forge, Yep this is cool. I met Hershel House when he was just starting out. I ran into Blue Jacket in Oklahoma at a rendevous several years later. A lot of those guys moved to Montana.
I had the third Tipi on the primitive range way back when, the guy that had it before me was the second. I don't remember who was first, but I'm thinking it was Andy Baker. That was before the cabin was built.
The first NMLRA Rendevous (Eastern???) was held on the Friendship grounds behind the Office up in the hills west of the primitive range. Snowed on us the last day. I remember walking out down the hill with Friendship laying in the valley,it was dusk, the smoke from fireplaces going straight up and it was snowing. Beautiful picture, beautiful way to remember Friendship town.
alb
June 27, 2007, 07:08 PM
I am Phanthon Captains dad ,Sounds like we walked the same ground in the early 70 's late 60 's .Where to start,Dan from Ill was Danny Powell,I have a cased pistol ,large barrel cocharn lock ,absolutly beautiful work.North star triggers you nailed it ,brought back a memory would not have attempted to spell his name.Have a trade gun Phil built but did not sign that he built for vern christenson (RIP) !2 guage oct to round 33 in barrel looks like a Lott lock no marks on lock or barrel,very nice gun . 3rd tepe, I remember being there about74 or 5 and I was the sixth one, 16' sioux that Jerry Buchanan sewed and got the poles from Glen Mc Lain.Doc baker with all the ear rings lol didn't wear them to work, sure liked his whiskey nothing wrong with that only time I said no was when they asked if I had enough. Max Vickery I didnt know but know about being a founding father.I have an unmarked b. buckley flint 45 poor boy that i bought from Vern.House gun is a 40 Large barrel roller lock of course tennesee at that time with ramrod pipes made from an old water heater lol. Thats enough for now talk later Alb
Old Dragoon
June 27, 2007, 11:04 PM
Yep Danny Powell it is. I lost track of him and Barry anderson, I ran into Danny again in the early 90's at a gunshow in Nobleville, Indiana, The Conner Prarie Gunshow. He had a bunch of Single shot rifles and said he was moving to Montana, I did hear he got there. His Cohort at Friendship, Can't remember his name, but he pulled in one day and as they were unloading the truck he handed me a mason jar of White lightining. I asked if it were Georgia Moon, a then well known Whiskey. He said "NO, Me and My Dad 1973" I think that was the year.
Last Rendevous' I attended was the Immigrant Peak Rendevous and the Rendevous in the Bighorn Mt's of Wyoming, I still have the flattened Balls they stamped for both Rendevous' tokens. Got them on my Salt Horn to this day. Believe that was 1978 or 1979.
I believe Dale Black was Vern's Cohort. I think he passed on a long time ago, before Vern.
I miss those times and all thoses people. Was some SHININ' Times. WoW seems like a million years ago, but again only yesterday.
OK I'm getting Melancholy I gotta go.
Phantom Captain
June 28, 2007, 07:03 PM
:)
You may have even bumped into me Old Dragoon, I was there a few times as a wee little one. Only very vague memories myself. Dad says I talked to everyone! LOL.
Old Dragoon
June 28, 2007, 10:32 PM
Yep You probably did talk to me or my Wife . I talked to everyone too.
I built a rifle for a guy in your dad's neck of the woods. Don Stubbs. I built an early Rifle based on a 1750's Musket/rifle design. That's the one I traded for Don's first Tipi.
I have a few rifles out there. One is a 32 Cal 11/16 x flats, 40" lgth. Bill Large bbl'd Bedford County Flinter. One shoot I carried the stock for the flinter without the bbl in it all over Friendship. Everyone was afraid I'd damage the stock, but I didn't.
I put my Trademark in the cheek piece. An erect pot bellied Groundhog brass inlay. I'd like to have any of the ones I built back now or at least one, they all have my name in Script on the top bbl flat behind the rear sight. I have never seen one come up at auction in all these years since.
I traded the flinter for a 1963 Ford Econoline Falcon Club Wagon to a guy in Michigan. Last I heard his son was shooting it, but that was a long , long time ago. I haule my 18 ft. Tipi on that Van, would set up the poles, throw the cover and drive into the front of the tipi to lace the top pins, back out and finish it up.
Boy this has set my memories awash.
Steve499
June 29, 2007, 09:06 AM
That's o.k., Dragoon. Memories are the only things us old timers do better than we used to, so I give you a 9.9 on yours!
Steve
gunman42782
June 30, 2007, 06:17 AM
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5016/1001409fl8.jpg
Ruger Old Army
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/8804/10004297ri.jpg
Ruger 77/50
Phantom Captain
July 1, 2007, 05:21 AM
:) Old Dragoon, and everyone else!
Stopped by Dad's and brought the camera. Here's some we have laying around.
These three Dad built, .36 Squirrel gun on top built around 1970, .62 Smooth Rifle 2001, .54 Hawken 1974-2005 hehe.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1025.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1030.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1029.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1050.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1051.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1054.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1055.jpg
Phantom Captain
July 1, 2007, 05:26 AM
Danny Powell .45. Absolutely beautiful work.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1031.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1032.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1033.jpg
And you will like these too Old Dragoon!
This is a .45 B. Buckley flinter on top, the middle is the .40 Hershel House rifle, and the bottom is the .72 Blue Jacket Sanders trade gun.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1036.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1037.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1045.jpg
Hershel's hand forged trigger guard.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1047.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1043.jpg
Blue Jacket trade gun.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Dads%20BP/IMG_1042.jpg
Old Dragoon
July 1, 2007, 10:38 AM
Fantastic. Those boys could build! I don't remember Buckley unless it was the guy that wrote the book about recreating the Kentucky Rifle and he spelled his name differently.
Phantom Captain
July 1, 2007, 10:15 PM
Yep, no doubt about it!
Dad said Buckley was a guy pretty well known from Arizona I think. I guess he built rifles and then his wife would carve and do all the fancy work. After she died he still made rifles but they were plain afterwords. This is one of those. It's still really sharp and you can't really tell from the picture but the case hardening on the lock is gorgeous.
Alphazulu6
July 1, 2007, 10:16 PM
:scrutiny: wow this thread was easy to download and look at
alucard0822
July 3, 2007, 08:10 PM
you guys are a bad influence on me, I just bought my first BP revolver on friday and already have about 100 balls through it, The first rifle I shot was a Hawken I built with my dad from a kit way back when I was about 11, and I honestly forgot how much fun BP is. I plan on getting a walker next, possibly a musket later on down the road:)
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=60279&stc=1&d=1183507339
Phantom Captain
July 5, 2007, 11:31 AM
Hey alucard0822,
Happy to nudge you along the right path! :D
Nice army you picked up! They are fun aren't they?
A musket down the line eh? Hehehe. :cool:
Cincinatti Slim, Wow!! Nice irons you got there! Your loading stand is excellent too.
Gewehr98, LOVE that Sharps!! Always have had a soft spot for those too. That .45-70 looks like business!
Everyone keep posting! It's great to see everyones stuff! Really interesting! Even the inlines, I've never had any experience with those, must say they are still very foreign to me, but cool!
Old Dragoon
July 5, 2007, 02:00 PM
OK y'all talked me into it. here's mine: All are shot with Holy Black, but if shot iindoors the Cartridge guns are shot with Trail Boss due to BP not being allowed indoors.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/MyOriginalRemyFamily-2.jpg
My Original Remy Family. Top to bottom; Model 1889 Coach Gun 12 ga., Martial Inspected 58 Remy NMA Gunsmith Conversion 44 Rem/Colt C.F, 58 Remy NMANon Rme. Factory Conversion 44 RemColt C.F., Civilian Transiton 58 NMA 44 C & B.(recently sold), 1863 Remy New Model Pocket model 32 Short Colt Conversion,
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/TransitionModelConversion44C-1.jpg
1858 Remy NMA Non Rem. factory Conversion 44 Rem/Colt C.F.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/2ndGenpair-4.jpg
2ND Gen. Colt 1851 Navy's
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/Centaur-BelgianColts-1.jpg
1960 Belgian Colt's Centaur 1860 Colt Army"s and custom Tommy Tornado Holsters.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/ASM1860ColtArmy4screw-1.jpg
1990 ASM 1860 Army. I was going to cut this one down to a belly gun, but it's too nice. One of the nicer ASM's I have seen or handled
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/1970Uberti58RemyNavy-NavyArms-2.jpg
1970 Navy Arms Remy Navy (Uberti)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/1Old6Dragoon1/BearPawHenry-2.jpg
And my Baby 1860 Henry (Uberti) in 45lc soon to be Converted to 44 Henry Flat C.F.
O.S.O.K.
July 5, 2007, 08:39 PM
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/HPIM0626.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/HPIM0644.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/dragoon_1_and_a_half.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/HPIM0452.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/HPIM0444.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/HPIM0424.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/HPIM0323.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/showphoto.php?photo=65261&size=big&cat=500&ppuser=20500
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/HPIM0382.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/HPIM0303.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/HPIM0397.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/HPIM0389.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/20500i_wonder_what_gave_him_that_idea.jpg
Phantom Captain
July 6, 2007, 11:25 AM
Old Dragoon! :what:
Wow! Those original Remingtons are amazing!! LOVE that coach gun, wow!!
I'm drooling.
And the Henry too, :cool: Sweet!
What's the deal with the Belgian Colt Centaurs? I don't know anything about those. Did you change out the front sights on those or did they come that way with higher sights?
O.S.O.K. nice CS holsters there! ;)
Calibre44
July 6, 2007, 02:03 PM
O.S.O.K
What are you loading into that Dragoon?
Love the loading rack - did you make it or buy it?. If you bought it ... where from? ... and if you made it - nice job!
Old Dragoon
July 6, 2007, 02:10 PM
PC, the Centaurs (centennial Arms) came with the taller sights. Thes are "Re-Issue, rather than Reproduction. The Centaur Company was licensed by Colt in the 1850's to build Brevette Colts. And they chose a Centaur as their trademark where Colt had a Horse. In 1960 William Edwards contracted with the same company to produce under license again, from Colt to Re-issue 1860 Belgian Colt Army's. Several types of Colts were produced. They were in business between 1960 to approx 1970. These were some of the first Guns to be used by re-enactors for the Civil War Centennial (hence the name Centennial Arms). William Edwards was a good friend of Val Forgett who statrted Navy Arms a bit later.
They are considered collector items and are in very much demand in Europe and becoming so here.
DixieTexian
July 6, 2007, 07:14 PM
Here is my antiqued looking gun, but mainly I just finished making a new holster for it this afternoon.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/DixieTexian/S1030881.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/DixieTexian/S1030880.jpg
barman
July 6, 2007, 10:20 PM
original Chamelot Delvigne model 1873, made in 1881.
http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/11/006/78/6D/B5/8F/T74Jw-QVBBP-zlH6X0W9fX5QvkVWZJ9W0300.jpg
D R Greysun
July 7, 2007, 07:39 AM
Ah shucks!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/DRGreysun/Guns%20and%20Stuff/Remys1sml.jpg
D R
Seancass
October 14, 2007, 12:05 PM
this thread seems like it needs a bump.
anybody out there shooting BPCR rifles?
ojh
October 14, 2007, 02:13 PM
My 58 Pietta, still uncleaned after a range session. The group is about 5", shot at 25 meters, one-handed, with .457 round balls and 22 grains of Wano FF.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/hilu15/pietta_group.jpg
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