Anyone know if 1 handgun a month bill passed for NJ?


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mbdolfin
June 11, 2007, 05:08 PM
Does anyone know if the one handgun a month bill passed for NJ today. i heard the vote was today 6/11/07? thanks, Rick

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crebralfix
June 11, 2007, 06:52 PM
Does this mean all citizens have to buy 12 guns a year?

Big Calhoun
June 11, 2007, 09:58 PM
Is there a bill number? I didn't readily see it listed under todays agenda: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/BillsForAgendaView.asp

Did come across this priceless quote in the Asbury Park Press:

Last year, authorities in Newark, Irvington and Camden seized 114 firearms, up from 86 in 2005. Meanwhile, homicides in Newark have jumped from 65 in 2002 to 113 last year, with nonfatal shootings also on the rise.

Obviously what they're doing is working well. :rolleyes:

Antipasta
June 11, 2007, 10:20 PM
6/11/2007 Passed by the Assembly (51-25-4)

.cheese.
June 11, 2007, 10:24 PM
Does this mean all citizens have to buy 12 guns a year?

Yes. It's mandatory. If you don't we show up at your house and fine you for not having enough guns.

DKSuddeth
June 11, 2007, 11:45 PM
Didn't some judge in jersey declare the one gun a month law unconstitutional because it didn't have an effect on crime?

geekWithA.45
June 12, 2007, 08:24 AM
Didn't some judge in jersey declare the one gun a month law unconstitutional because it didn't have an effect on crime?

A judge knocked down a municipal 1/month ordinance, citing both state pre-emption and the fact that a regulation must have some bearing to controlling crime, which had not been shown to be the case w/ 1/month.

eric_t12
June 12, 2007, 10:30 AM
only being able to buy one gun a month didn't affect the crime rate ?

hmmm... news to me! :/sarcasm:

theleveloftime
June 12, 2007, 01:39 PM
what difference does it make? It takes at least 6 months to clear the paper work to buy just one gun in the PRNJ.

DogBonz
June 12, 2007, 01:52 PM
what difference does it make? It takes at least 6 months to clear the paper work to buy just one gun in the PRNJ.

It took me 6 weeks to get 4 purchase permits and an FID card.

It still sux but us law-abiding folks will always go through the proper channels, while criminals will just go out and get one.

slewfoot
June 12, 2007, 02:48 PM
Whats the problem with one gun a month in Jersey? From what I hear it can take months just to get permission from the local commissar to even buy a gun.

I hope our comrades in the State Politburo really don't think this will reduce crime.

Crunker1337
June 12, 2007, 03:08 PM
I've always found it folly that people want to band handguns. I recognize that they're the preferred firearm of criminals, but if a handgun ban was implemented AND enforced, you'd force criminals to use sawn-off rifles and shotguns: far deadlier.

jselvy
June 12, 2007, 03:27 PM
Criminals break the law- that is the job description.
Handgun Ban is a law.
Criminals break the law
GCA is a law
Criminals break the law
NFA is a law
Criminals break the law
Brady Bill is a law
Criminals break the law
One Gun per Month is a law
Criminals break the law
Murder is against the law
Criminals break the law
Theft is against the law
Criminals break the law
No Knock searches are against the law
Criminals break the law
Infringements are against the law
Criminals break the law
Need I say More?

Jefferson

rev214
June 12, 2007, 05:04 PM
Voted AGAINST A3511
Assemblyman Nelson Albano (D-1)
Assemblyman Christopher Bateman (R-16)
Assemblyman Peter Biondi (R-16)
Assemblyman John Burzichelli (D-3)
Assemblyman Michael Carroll (R-25)
Assemblyman Larry Chatzidakis (R-8)
Assemblyman Christopher Connors (R-9)
Assemblyman Steve Corodemus (R-11)
Assemblyman Ronald Dancer (R-30)
Assemblyman Alex DeCroce (R-26)
Assemblyman Michael Doherty (R-23)
Assemblyman Douglas Fisher (D-3)
Assemblyman Guy Gregg (R-24)
Assemblyman James Holzapfel (R-10)
Assemblywoman Marcia Karrow (R-23)
Assemblyman Sean Kean (R-11)
Assemblyman Joseph Malone, III (R-30)
Assemblywoman Alison Littell McHose (R-24)
Assemblyman Richard Merkt (R-25)
Assemblyman Kevin O'Toole (R-40)
Assemblyman Joseph Pennacchio (R-26)
Assemblyman Brian Rumpf (R-9)
Assemblyman David Russo (R-40)
Assemblyman Jeff Van Drew (D-1)
Assemblyman David Wolfe (R-10)


Voted FOR A3511
Assemblyman Peter Barnes, III (D-18)
Assemblyman Bill Baroni (R-14)
Assemblywoman Jennifer Beck (R-12)
Assemblyman Francis Blee (R-2)
Assemblyman Jon Bramnick (R-21)
Assemblyman Wilfredo Caraballo (D-29)
Assemblyman Upendra Chivukula (D-17)
Assemblyman Neil Cohen (D-20)
Assemblyman Herb Conaway, Jr. (D-7)
Assemblyman Jack Conners (D-7)
Assemblywoman Nilsa Cruz-Perez (D-5)
Assemblyman Joseph Cryan (D-20)
Assemblyman Patrick Diegnan, Jr. (D-18)
Assemblyman Joseph Egan (D-17)
Assemblyman Charles Epps, Jr. (D-31)
Assemblyman Thomas Giblin (D-34)
Assemblyman Robert Gordon (D-38)
Assemblyman Jerry Green (D-22)
Assemblywoman Linda Greenstein (D-14)
Assemblyman Louis Greenwald (D-6)
Assemblyman Reed Gusciora (D-15)
Assemblyman Mims Hackett, Jr. (D-27)
Assemblywoman Amy Handlin (R-13)
Assemblyman Gordon Johnson (D-37)
Assemblywoman Pamela Lampitt (D-6)
Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-31)
Assemblyman David Mayer (D-4)
Assemblyman John McKeon (D-27)
Assemblyman Paul Moriarty (D-4)
Assemblyman Eric Munoz (R-21)
Assemblywoman Sheila Oliver (D-34)
Assemblyman Michael Panter (D-12)
Assemblyman William Payne (D-29)
Assemblywoman Nellie Pou (D-35)
Assemblyman Vincent Prieto (D-32)
Assemblywoman Joan Quigley (D-32)
Assemblyman Joseph Roberts, Jr. (D-5)
Assemblyman Frederick Scalera (D-36)
Assemblyman Gary Schaer (D-36)
Assemblyman Brian Stack (D-33)
Assemblyman Craig Stanley (D-28)
Assemblyman Alfred Steele (D-35)
Assemblywoman Linda Stender (D-22)
Assemblywoman Oadline Truitt (D-28)
Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle (D-37)
Assemblyman Joseph Vas (D-19)
Assemblyman Silverio Vega (D-33)
Assemblywoman Joan Voss (D-38)
Assemblywoman Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-15)
Assemblyman Jim Whelan (D-2)
Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D-19)


Abstained
Assemblyman Francis Bodine (D-8)
Assemblyman John Rooney (R-39)
Assemblyman Samuel Thompson (R-13)
Assemblywoman Charlotte Vandervalk (R-39)

Antipasta
June 12, 2007, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the breakdown, Rev214.

One of my Assemblymen was among the four that "abstained" and the other (R) voted "against." Since they're all up for re-election in NJ this November, I think I'll be a republican this time around. The dems have gone off the deep end and need their numbers reduced.

jselvy
June 13, 2007, 08:00 AM
Gotta cull the herd every so often right?

Jefferson

rev214
June 13, 2007, 08:04 AM
This is an e-mail that assemblyman Michael Carroll sent to his district:

Not surprisingly, be unfortunately, this measure passed the Assembly today.

Interestingly enough, as I read it, it does NOT prohibit a police department from issuing as many pistol permits as one may wish to secure, but only prohibits a retailer from selling more than one gun per calendar month. Hence, as long as you know 10 gun shops -- and the cops aren't annoying -- this bill -- like so many other "gun control" measures -- will mean precisely zip.

I voted against it, along with 24 of my colleagues. I strongly recommend that you consider these legislative votes when casting your own votes, and making political donations. The opponants of freedom will remember; if freedom is important to you, act accordingly.

And, of course, feel free to contact me with any suggestions and thoughts you might have.

mpcarroll
Assemblyman, R-25

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