[CelTicAssassin]

I was lucky to find a 1300 at one of the big5 sporting good store's a few months ago order some parts and this is what happen what do you think.


First get 1

Winchester 1300 Definder



Number 2

From the longest arm of the law to the shortest, the Knoxx SpecOps Stock is instantly adjustable to fit any shooter. With over 4 inches of adjustment, this is a stock that the entire department can use comfortably in any application and with any load.
Just when you thought recoil reduction had reached maximum potential, Knoxx Industries has produced yet another patented recoil-reducing stock to revolutionize the way you think about shotguns. Utilizing dual Knoxx recoil-compensating systems, the SpecOps Stock has the ability to reduce felt recoil of even the most potent loads by up to 95%. The SpecOps Stock makes even the heaviest loads easy for all shooters to handle


Number 3

The innovative Knoxx PowerPak™ brings a new level of versatility and performance to the acclaimed SpecOps Stock™. The modular PowerPak System includes a raised cheek-piece for use with optical sights, a shell holder that presents five 12-gauge shells ready for quick reloads, a watertight storage compartment for earplugs and spare batteries, and a standard height cheek-piece for use with low-rise sights or bead.
The PowerPak can be assembled with all or any part of the included components with the accompanying hex wrench for either left- or right-handed shooters. Installation is easy as the PowerPak simply snaps onto the rear portion of the stock. Once installed, the PowerPak remains rigid and stable through the toughest of use. Designed specifically for the SpecOps Stock, the PowerPak fits perfectly on all versions. For the maximum in function and flexibility, choose the PowerPak from Knoxx.
* The Knoxx PowerPak System is only available for the Knoxx SpecOps Stock™ and fits all versions of the SpecOps; Remington®, Mossberg® Winchester® 1300 & FN® Police Series. Suggested Retail: $49.95



Number 4


Surefire Forend with FlashlightRemington 870Mossberg 500/590Winchester 1300
SUREFIRE makes the most advanced forends in the world and we are excited to bring you the latest generation of their integrated flashlight and forends for the Remington 870. FBI statistics show that if you are going to need your weapon, it will most likely be at night. With the right tools and tactics you can "own the night" and stack the odds in your favor. This gives you a powerful, brilliant light you can control while employing the shotgun. Built-in pressure switch allows instant on/off activation without wires to snag. On the left side is a Constant On/Off switch. Installs easily without modification on Remington 870 12 gauge. Mossberg fits 500 & 590 models. If your 590 has the bayonet lug, it must be removed to keep the light from hitting it. Trust us - it's worth it and it's more pratical. The Winchester fits modles 1300, Ranger and Defender. Includes 6V lithium battery. *Provides 65 lumens of light for one hour. *Water and shock resistant. *Brilliant light for target ID & opponent disorientation. *Includes 6V battery & switch blocker*Two modes of operation: "Pressure Pad" or "Constant On


Number 5


Mossberg Factory Heat ShieldsFits Mossberg, Remington & Winchester 12 Ga. Pumps
Heat shields are easy to install on models that do not have vent ribs or ghost ring sights. They offer protection against grabbing a hot barrel and look sharp as well! Available in Gloss Blue only.Fits all Mossberg, Remington and Winchester 12ga. pump actions. Mounting hardware included. MarineCote & parkerized shown.



Number 6

Brand New Wincheter 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500 12ga Matte Black Scope Package
Brand New Redfiled Mount in Retail Package
o This Quick Install Base Is Made Of The Finest Quality Heat Treated Aluminum Alloy Extrusion
o Rugged and Reliable, straddles the receiver for much studier mount than those that only attach on one side of the receiver.
o Lightweight, No Drill, No Tap Scope Mount Systems

Number 7
Sight Specifications
· Tubeless Design With 33mm Reflex Lens Aperture Provides A Wide Field Of View
· Multi-Reticle (4 Patterns) Are Installed
· Easliy Switch Between Four Different Reticle Patterns
· 7 Brightness Settings
· Fast Targeting
· Great For Moving Targets
· Parallax Corrected And Unlimited Eye Relief
· Built-In-Mount (Integrated Rail) 7/8" Weaver
· Water Proof and Shock Proof
· Very Light Weight (Less Than 6oz)
· Low Power Consuption For Long Battery Life!!
· Protective Lens Cover Included
· Battery and Spare Battery are Included

Number 8

This is 12 Gauge Rio 1 1/8oz. Armored Slug. This is a Brenneke style slug, designed to have extreme penetration. This ammo is 23/4" and travels at 1540 fps. This ammo is designed for hunting large dangerous animals. The penetration and accurracy of this ammo in unmatched by any other slug on the market. It comes packed in 10rd. boxes, 250rds. per case


Number 9

100rds - 12 gauge Aguila Mini-Shell Slugs

This is Aguila 12 gauge mini-shell slugs. This ammo is loaded with a 7/8oz. slug and is only 1 1/2" long. This ammo has a very light recoil, so it is great for training kids to shoot with a 12 gauge. This ammo travels at 1250 FPS and is great for hunting and is a superior defense round. With this ammo your typical shotgun can hold 33% to 50% more rounds legally and have a lighter recoil. Any single, double, and most pump shotguns can use this ammo without any modifications. Unfortunately, this ammo will not work in semi-autos

Number 10

12 GA. Armor Piercing
This awesome round houses enough power to penetrate the thickest car doors, commercial steel doors and most objects up to 1/4" steel plate. This slug has a steel penetrator button, boosted by a very hot charge, has an unbelievable velocity to slice through metal like a hot knife slices through butter. (Cannot be shipped to addresses from California, New York City, and surrounding boroughs.) 2.75 round


Number 11

12 Gauge "Double Slug"
One shot, Two hits! You will double the punch, the impact and the chance of hitting your target all in one shot! The 12 Gauge round is loaded with two slugs that weigh 3/4 of an ounce each. The recoil is a little heavier than a standard 12 Gauge load and so are the resutlts! At 25 yards the two slugs will strike your target about two inches apart. At 50 yards, the strike spreads to nearly a foot apart! Unbelievable twin knock-down power! 2.75" round.



and now i am ready.

[cameron.personal]

Looks cool.

What movie is it going to be used in?

Cameron

[psyopspec]

I'd say you did a nice job on a zombie/HD rig. Can you give more detail on each of the modifications you did?

[Fred Fuller]

Shot anything besides pictures yet??

lpl/nc

[marksman13]

All dressed up and waiting for a date with Mr. Wrong. Good looking rig.

[Brian Williams]

I think it needs to have about 500 rounds thru it before I pass judgement.
50 slugs, 100 birdshot, 50 buckshot, 100 birdshot, 50 slugs, 100 birdshot, 50 buckshot. Then if any malfunctioned, determine the cause and BA,UU,R until you have 100 rounds with out malfs.

[CelTicAssassin]

check it out I update my info and I put down some of the shell i got for it also.

[Fred Fuller]

Now you are ready? Really?

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. Now you are EQUIPPED. You have GEAR. If you have spent four months bolting bits on what started out as a perfectly serviceable shotgun and still have not fired the first round out of it (as you stated recently), you aren't ready for anything more demanding than another photo opportunity. That is to say, if you have had no introduction to safe shooting, no teaching regarding sporting or defensive shotgunning, no training, no practice, no trigger time- then NO, you aren't ready.

You see, what you have done is to spend a lot of time and money accumulating STUFF. You haven't yet (according to anything you have posted here that I have seen, that is) accumulated the SKILLS to put that accumulation of stuff to work for you safely and effectively. If I'm wrong on that count, please let me know.

If you bought a Steinway, would you assume that qualifies you to play a concert at Carnegie Hall, with no music lessons and no practice? Shotguns are no different than pianos. You have to learn to use it safely and shoot it effectively, if you are going to be genuinely "ready."

I am not trying to pick on you. I am genuinely concerned that you are making a basic mistake that a lot of other people have made before you and that a lot of others will make later. Owning the hardware is not the same as knowing how to use it. I'd rather hear you talking about spending $500 on tuition for Louis Awerbucks basic shotgun class (or Randy Cain's, or any of several others) and $300 for practice ammo, than to see a detailed list of advertisements for the gear you have bought to bolt onto a new shotgun that as of a couple of weeks ago you had not even fired for the first time.

Owning a gun does not make you a shooter. If you have had no training/teaching from a family member or friend so far, PLEASE seek out a local NRA instructor and take some classes, or go to a Hunter Safety Course. Find a gun club near you and look for whatever opportunities you can find to safely shoot your shotgun, learning what it will and won't do and what you can do with it.

This is not about hardware. It's about software. And yes, I am in fact an old fogey stuck-in-the-mud and no fun whatsoever either. And ugly to boot. Sorry 'bout that.

The unofficial motto here on THR's Shotgun Forum is BA/UU/R. That stands for Buy Ammo/Use Up/Repeat. So go shoot. Shoot a LOT. Start with inexpensive light birdshot loads, save your hyperexpensive hyperventilating world-destroying loads for genuine cosmic emergencies. Practice with the cheap stuff, and use regular ordinary buckshot and slugs for the run-of-the-mill emergencies. You can afford to shoot enough regular buck and slug loads to practice with them, and they will do fine for anything short of invading space aliens and undead zombie hordes.

Then come and tell us about the classes you have taken, the clay birds you have dusted, the targets you have felled, the skills you have learned and improved on. Anyone with a checkbook or a credit card can buy stuff- that's not impressive. Improve yourself as a shooter, as a tactician, as a sportsman- and tell us about it. THAT's impressive.

Stay safe,

lpl/nc

[Dave McCracken]

Amen, Lee.

Celtic, impress me. Don't do it by the stuff you've bolted on, do it by a huge pile of empty hulls, shattered targets, and some wear marks on that fine shotgun.

Lemme tell you a story about a young guy who posted here and on TFL about his Defender, which in all honesty I do not recall if he modified or pimped up.

In a fairly short time, he ran 25,000 rounds through it without a glitch. That's 100 cases of ammo.

As Lee said, you're equipped. Lamont was ready.....

Dismounting from pulpit....

[psyopspec]

I hadn't seen any posts to attest to this gentleman's level of training, but if Mr. Lapin and Mr. McCracken know something I don't, I'm on board. Self-betterment should never go lax, particularly when there are so many areas to develop in the realm of firearms. My thoughts on experience are expressed through a parable involving alcohol: When I was in college, I drank a lot of scotch because I thought it was the thing to do. After a couple years I finally drank good scotch and knew I was onto something, but only because I had something to compare it to. Similarly, the tactical features of your shotgun can be better appreciated (or realized to be unnecessary) with experience. Get out there and shoot it.

One way or another, it's still a good looking zombie gun.

[sm]

Well Steve has not posted in this thread...

Lee Lapin's Post Number 8 speaks for me.

Hell it ought to be a Required Sticky for new folks interested in shotguns to read.


Good Shooters are made - not born. - Fred Misseldine

Focus on the target - not the equipment - Will Fennell

One cannot buy skill and targets - sm

[Hawk]

On the brighter side...

It is my understanding that if one is to try cycling Aguila Minis in an unmodified repeater, the Win 1300 is possibly the best choice.

And it appears the donut of death is quickly demountable to permit use of the fiber optic front with traditional shot. It can always go back on for the RIO slugs.

If the 12 Ga, "armor piercing" and "double slugs" are what I think they are, they came in 3-round blister packs for attention getting prices. If returnable, the credit might put one most of the way to the cost of a case of promo "gun club" 12 Ga bird shot.

A case of "gun club" could be fun with a short barrel and FO sight at a skeet range.

[Hobie]

I have a 120 and the Aquila minis don't cycle reliably. Of course I had to try even knowing they were the wrong LOA. I bet my set up is every bit as good as yours for repelling boarders...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheRealHobie/Firearms/Winchester120Left.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheRealHobie/Firearms/Winchester120Right.jpg

[CelTicAssassin]

Wow well for (1), I am Ready small arms expert 6 years usmc,( 2) I have shot 210 at day time 20 rounds at night out of my defender 1300 on 06-14-2007 from Aquila Mini-Shell to Armor Piercing and Double slugs o ya plus Armored slugs 00buck so the gun works I hit with in 2 inches from the bulls eye with a slug at 35 yards my first shot thanks to my sight-rite laser bore sighter it works wow and this is for HOBIE 14 mini-shell I shot in 4 sec Reload with 5 Double slugs thats all my side saddle holds and fired them with in 11 sec not bad ha and how dose your gun work at night. So guys the gun and the man is ready :neener:

[CelTicAssassin]

:uhoh:I hope I did not soud Rood but any gun is a good gun, I just like mine with a little attatude that's just me and the way I express my self I like my guns all dress up and that is who I am, sorry, but for you guys who like it and wont to know where I get some of my toys just ask one thing Knoxx buts ROCK I did not fill a thing and Hawk armor piercing do come in 3-round blister packs I get them from Delta Force.

[sm]

In all due respect sir -

Like hell I am!!

I would read again the Rules of Conduct you agreed to upon registering here and pay attention to "No Personal Attacks" - because I am not the only one that feels I have been "personally attacked"

1300 will cycle these Mini Shells.
In testing and evaluation these shells did not have consistent patterns, pattern density, or penetration.

Don't believe me and my tests?

Denny Hansen , editor of SWAT Magazine, call him and ask his take.

Now, I do not know of any LEO, or persons that use a shotgun for defensive purposes, or instructs defensive shotgun use, that recommends or suggests
and I quote :
from Aquila Mini-Shell to Armor Piercing and Double slugs o ya plus Armored slugs 00buck

We are going to have to agree to disagree.

I am also going to ask Staff to ask you for your Credentials sir.

I, as a responsible firearm owner, and member of THR , have a responsibility to any one that reads THR, be they member or not, to get Responsible information.

I am NOT going to recommend your shotgun, and load choices to folks, especially a new shotgunner.


Respectfully,

Steve

[JackCrow]

That thing looks like the Sulaco!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulaco_(spaceship)

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/SULACO%20MAIN.jpg

:D:D:D

Enjoy the new toy!

[Jeff White]

CelTicAssassin said;
I am Ready small arms expert 6 years usmc,

What MOS is that? I was only in the Army for 28 years and 11 months, but I've never heard of a job titled Small Arms Expert in either the Army or USMC. We had 11B and 18B in the Army Infantry and the Marines had 0311 and another MOS for machine gunner, but I don't know of any for all small arms. The closest I can think of would be 18B Special Forces Weapons Sergeant.

Watched the video on your myspace page. Any problems during actual operations with the sling blocking your light?

Jeff

[Brian Williams]

Besides, if you were one of the misguided kids, you would never use usmc for the Corps
SemperFi
75-79

Machine gunners are 0331


Marine Corps MOSs
0311-- Rifleman

0313-- LAV Crewman

0321-- Reconnaissance Man

0331-- Machine Gunner

0341-- Mortarman

0351-- Assaultman

0352-- Antitank Assault Guided Missileman

0369-- Infantry Unit Leader


Canc the crap, If you are or were a Marine, I won't have you acting like a Jackass. If you were not, quit the BS before we all know what a liar you are.



Short Quiz, what kind of belt does a Senior wear?

[Fred Fuller]

Well, CelTicAssassin, all I can say is that I'm glad to hear that I was wrong. It's good to know that you and your Winchester really are ready. I hope you never have to use it for anything besides range time, training and photo shoots- that's the same thing I wish for everyone here who owns a shotgun for defensive purposes.

I'm glad you're proud of your shotgun, everyone should have full confidence in their defensive firearms as well as in their own ability to employ them successfully.

As I said, it was not ever my intention to pick on you. My concern was that you were a neophyte shotgunner, and that concern was sparked by your answer to my first question when you posted the first picture of your new Winchester here. You assure me that you have been adequately trained, that your skills are up to snuff, and I will certainly take your word for that.

Stay safe,

lpl/nc

[BullfrogKen]

I'm curious to know that MOS, too. I don't recall anything that came close to this one: Ready small arms expert 6 years usmc


The Few, the Proud are well represented here. Its not going to go well for you to pretend to be something you aren't on this board.


I'd not let Brian's question go unanswered too long.

[Hawk]

...and Hawk armor piercing do come in 3-round blister packs I get them from Delta Force.

I was afraid of that. Good on you for shooting them up. My admittedly unsolicited advice would be to not replace them. The "AP" round sells for slightly more than I paid for Federal .416 Rigby bonded solids. I find that ironic but that might just be me.

"Exotic" 12 Ga ammo is widely viewed as "Mall Ninja" and/or "Novelty" ammo. It's your money but at 20.00 per 3 round blister pack, you could amortize an SL900 in short order.

[Steel Talon]

Number 4


Surefire Forend with FlashlightRemington 870Mossberg 500/590Winchester 1300
SUREFIRE makes the most advanced forends in the world and we are excited to bring you the latest generation of their integrated flashlight and forends for the Remington 870. FBI statistics show that if you are going to need your weapon, it will most likely be at night. With the right tools and tactics you can "own the night" and stack the odds in your favor. This gives you a powerful, brilliant light you can control while employing the shotgun. Built-in pressure switch allows instant on/off activation without wires to snag. On the left side is a Constant On/Off switch. Installs easily without modification on Remington 870 12 gauge. Mossberg fits 500 & 590 models. If your 590 has the bayonet lug, it must be removed to keep the light from hitting it. Trust us - it's worth it and it's more pratical. The Winchester fits modles 1300, Ranger and Defender. Includes 6V lithium battery. *Provides 65 lumens of light for one hour. *Water and shock resistant. *Brilliant light for target ID & opponent disorientation. *Includes 6V battery & switch blocker*Two modes of operation: "Pressure Pad" or "Constant On

Celt....
FWIW remember this day or night always maintain EYE->MUZZLE->TARGET

cool rig
Peace
Steel Talon:cool:

[Steel Talon]

10-4 ken!

[sefus]

The 1300 is an "nichy" shotgun IMO. It was my first 12 guage and I like it quite a bit but with the chokeless barrel, and a new one costing more than the gun, and being limited to the bead sight without a lot of smithing, it really is only a close in platform. I am in the process of trying a pistol grip with some loaded down 00 in it and am considering a flashlight on the forend/barrel for CQB and obstical busting. Mine wont pattern for anything past about 15 feet with any ammo so I've given up trying to make it work for anything but what it is designed for and will just look for a Mossburg or Saiga for an actual versitile shotgun.

-Sefus

[hso]

CTA,

That's a pretty pimped-uped pump gun you've put together! Considering the history of combat/sd/le shotguns and the ammunition that's been proven in combat/sd/le you've got to expect a lot of head shaking and snickering with all that on what was a fundamentally good SD shotgun to begin with.

Combat shotguns have been around since before WWI and #6, double aught and slugs have been putting bad guys in their place forever. So, we look at all the money spent on the special items that have been put on your 1300 and know that much of that (the flashlight is the only essential add-on for most SD shotguns according to experts) money would have been spent on a good civilian SD shotgun course and a few cases of #6 and a case of Brenneke slugs.

You've agreed that training trumps toys by claiming that you're "ready" due to some sort of military training, but any possible training in the military that you may or may not have received is different from the training you'd get in civilian use of a SD shotgun from a credible trainer.

For anyone that hasn't taken a good course or at least spent the time learning from firing a few cases worth of ammunition, all the specialty gear and ammo in the world won't make up for lack of training. Much of that stuff that you can throw on a fundamentally sound SD shotgun costs more than a good course and doesn't make you ready to defend yourself any more than a bumble bee muffler makes you a race car driver. If you've got the money to burn on gizmo's, good, but anyone would be much better served by signing up for a SD shotgun course and putting the rounds down range to learn to run the gun instead.

[springmom]

And if you don't have a good course available in your area, BA/UU/R anyway. Practice, practice, practice. Don't just shoot when you practice; think about each shot, think about what you did and how it worked or didn't. Read here about shotgunning (especially from SM, who knows quite a lot about it). But don't just assume you're ready for a home invasion because of the gear. You're only ready when your shotgun becomes an extension of you and you know exactly how to use it.

My personal taste would have been to leave it as you got it, but then my personal taste is for a more traditional type shotgun anyway. I have a Beretta semiauto on which I've put nothing at all. It works just fine as is :) But you've obviously had fun putting this rig together, so have fun with it and go shoot it, shoot it, and shoot it some more.

Springmom

[NeveraVictimAgain]

PLEASE name the make and model of everything, especially the hard to find things like the armor piercing slugs.

THANKS!

[Jorg]

PLEASE name the make and model of everything, especially the hard to find things like the armor piercing slugs.

There's a reason they are hard to find. But if you are looking for these novelty shells, it appears most of the descriptions have just been cut and pasted from this site (http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/12gaugeammo.html).

[hso]

Dave,

The weird exotic rounds are not worth the money. Stick with Brenneke slugs or Fosters and they'll punch though anything you need to. Good double aught should be bought after deer season by the case. #6 the rest of the time.

[sm]

Deleted by me .

[CelTicAssassin]

Hey how are you guys doing, well I joining this sight because I thought it would be nice to share some of the thing's I am trying out, and the first one is the Winchester 1300, I am going wild on it and not keeping it simple because I wont to see what I can do, and have some fun, that’s how we learn about the gun we all have, and learn what we can do and what we can't do, buy going out and trying them and getting some feed back on what you guys have tried, I am not here to tell you my Military back grown my wife do even know my Military back grown so let's keep it off the book's, and if your proud because you where in the Military you should be and we all give are thanks to the people that steel serve, so if you have a bad attitude and can't play nice and get :fire: just remember one thing we are all American here and as a American ( I rather have a gun and not use it, then not have a gun and need it.:):):)

[The Deer Hunter]

If I understand you correctly;

If your wife doesn't know about your Military "back grown"(I assume you mean backround), why would you bring it up to begin with?

[The Deer Hunter]

Also, 230 rounds isn't alot of ammo.

[sm]

CelTicAssassin,

We are not having a easy go as a new member of THR are we?

I gotta an idea.


At the top of this shotgun forum , stickied , are some posts by Dave McCracken that moderates this forum.
Some pretty good posts can be found in those Stickies.
Dave served in Vietnam, so I know you will appreciate and respect his experiences and sharing

Also recommended is a book, Shotgunning: The Art & Science by Bob Brister

Computers and Internet , as great as they may be, are often a pain in the backside.
It just takes time to get certain software figured out.

Now one tip, is using Firefox for a browser, and one feature of Firefox is spell check, and allows one to correct spelling.
Also free, and handy is Wiktionary : http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Main_Page


HTH

[CelTicAssassin]

well it was nice but i am not going to set here, and be call names so i am of this web site.

2ed class Lt James e burke.


Military Occupational Specialties


Small Arms Repair
Rifleman
Machine Gunner
Mortar Man
Assaultman
Light Armored Vehicle Crewman

To name some.



Hey how are you guys doing, well I joining this sight because I thought it would be nice to share some of the thing's I am trying out, and the first one is the Winchester 1300, I am going wild on it and not keeping it simple because I wont to see what I can do, and have some fun, that’s how we learn about the gun we all have, and learn what we can do and what we can't do, buy going out and trying them and getting some feed back on what you guys have tried, I am not here to tell you my Military back grown my wife do even know my Military back grown so let's keep it off the book's, and if your proud because you where in the Military you should be and we all give are thanks to the people that steel serve, so if you have a bad attitude and can't play nice and get :fire: just remember one thing we are all American here and as a American ( I rather have a gun and not use it, then not have a gun and need it.

[Brian Williams]

Thank You
Welcome to THR, sir
Cpl B Williams
Semper Fi

You have come and told the Truth and that means I will recant what I said about you possibly being a Liar.

But I will not let any Marine make a jackass of themselves when it comes to THR and the right to keep and bear arms.


Now, How does that 1300 shoot.

[DRZinn]

2ed class Lt James e burke.


Military Occupational Specialties


Small Arms Repair
Rifleman
Machine Gunner
Mortar Man
Assaultman
Light Armored Vehicle Crewman

To name some.

http://www.randomchat.ca/forum/images/smilies/bsflag.gif

Second Class Lieutenant? And apparently specializes in every infantry MOS (except the ones that officers get), plus small arms repair?

I don't think so.

[Black Majik]

If your wife doesn't know about your Military "back grown"(I assume you mean backround), why would you bring it up to begin with?

You mean "background?" ;)

[sm]

Don't look at me in regard to Military Jargon , I never served in the Military.
They started bringing home the troops in my Senior year of HS and my draft card was 1 H .

OK, I do know the chocolate in C Rations is some gooood stuff.
I miss the 5 packs of smokes , the water proof matches, and P38's are just neat!

Whoever come up with the Peanut Butter in C Rations, must have thought this stuff was going to be used for repairing brick, pot holes, and maybe gasket repair. :D

I shot a can of this peanut butter with a .22 long rifle, and I swear that stuff is self sealing...

Oh, I know the difference in a Army field coat and the Navy "P" coat.
One is green and zips and the other is blue with buttons...

:)

[Brian Williams]

The Peanut butter is actually to suppliment the cooking it burns nicely.

[sm]

Brian,
I just recall how that peanut butter in a hole in a barn and one of them crackers, would keep the rain out.
Best recall it stayed there for a good bit, not sure even a woodpecker could peck a hole through one of them crackers. :D

Oh well, I miss them C Rations, the folks associated with them all the memories including shooting.

[springmom]

I cannot stand it. I try really, really, REALLY hard not to play Grammar Police. But I can't stand it:

Hey how are you guys doing, well I joining this sight because I thought it would be nice to share some of the thing's I am trying out, and the first one is the Winchester 1300, I am going wild on it and not keeping it simple because I wont to see what I can do, and have some fun, that’s how we learn about the gun we all have, and learn what we can do and what we can't do, buy going out and trying them and getting some feed back on what you guys have tried, I am not here to tell you my Military back grown my wife do even know my Military back grown so let's keep it off the book's, and if your proud because you where in the Military you should be and we all give are thanks to the people that steel serve, so if you have a bad attitude and can't play nice and get just remember one thing we are all American here and as a American ( I rather have a gun and not use it, then not have a gun and need it

You joined the SITE to share some THINGS. You WANT to see what you can do, BY going out and trying and getting FEEDBACK. Your military BACKGROUND; your wife DOESN'T even know and you want to keep it off the BOOKS. You WERE in the military, we give OUR thanks to the people that STILL serve. As AN American...

Sorry, but this is basic, second- and third-grade spelling and I can't stand it anymore. :banghead::banghead::banghead: /spelling rant.

If you were in the military, that's great. If you like your shotgun, that's great. Just go out and spend time shooting it, so that if you do ever need it you will really know what it, and you, can do. Training is super; practice is essential.

Stay safe and happy shooting.

Springmom

[cee_squared]

I just recall how that peanut butter in a hole in a barn and one of them crackers, would keep the rain out. Best recall it stayed there for a good bit, not sure even a woodpecker could peck a hole through one of them crackers.

So that's why I stopped doin number two after week three of basic.. :mad: :eek: !

Man..if I only knew then what I know now......:rolleyes:

:p
cee

[ArfinGreebly]

Greatings.

Eye halve came hear too improove my grammer and speeling.

Eye'm akchully an Pee Aitch Dee in the Englisch languige.

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...anyone use /using a 1300 ?

[BullfrogKen]

I've only seen 870's and Mossbergs.

MRE peanut butter was good for when we went out in the field. It "stopped things" sufficiently that we didn't need as much toilet paper.

[stiletto raggio]

All the military shotguns I have seen were either cheap Mossbergs (limited to five in the magazine despite teh fact that the same civvie model holds six) or the new Benellis (which are exceedingly rare over here).

At any rate, I have met some Second Class LTs, and based on your grammar, anyone whose NCOER (report card) was written by you would most likely be laughed out of a promotion board. So perhaps you are a Second Class LT. That said, I am pretty sure even the Marine Corps--just like every other service--requires a bachelors' degree to be an officer. I am doubtful.

[hso]

Ok, back to something on shotguns.

Training trumps toys even though it's easier to get toys than training. Basic SD shotguns and ammo have been putting BGs in their place since the turn of the century (the last century that is). If you want to trick out your shotgun with bits you've seen in the tactikewl ads in gun mags wait until you spend your money on getting familiar with the gun.

Training in SD shotguns is available and plenty of folks here will be happy to point you at all the trainers that are out there.

If you can't get to a trainer then get thee to a range and practice purposfully. Remember that practice does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. Pay attention to each shot and note what does and does not work.

There are some versions of shotgun sports that are applicable to SD shotgun use. This allows you to find folks to help you with your shotgun "game" that will, at the same time, be helping you with your SD shotgun training. Sporting clays, with it's low and ground moving targets, comes to mind. You'll find folks at the clay range that will be happy to mentor you.

The bottom line is that investing in training has a greater return than accessories.

Try the following -
Shotgunning : The Art & Science - Bob Brister
Is always a good idea, no matter if one is new or seasoned shooter, and no matter the use for the shotgun.

Trainer-

Awerbuck, Cain, etc. are excellent trainers.

Sportingclays mag -

http://www.sportingclays.net/

Steve, what did I miss?

PS, don't ever claim any experience you don't have at THR. There are scores of folks with decades of real experience that will smell a lie at 1,000 meters and being outed by them isn't worth the effort to bolster your position.