For all you Mas fans out there....Days of Glory movie


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nwilliams
June 15, 2007, 01:56 AM
For anyone interested there is a WW2 good movie out now called Days of Glory and if you own a French Mas bolt action you may want to check it out. There also many other great guns of WW2 in it including a very cool German k98 Sniper rifle carried by one of the French soldiers.

The movie is subtitled just so you know, but very well made and there's an interesting variety of weapons in it to try and spot. The movie is French but I won't hold that against them:D I guess I shouldn't diss the French I went to southern France a few years ago and enjoyed it, and they make good movies every now and then.

In any case for all you milsurp fans out there if you're looking for another WW2 movie to watch I recommend Days of Glory.

I guess I should have put this thread under a different topic but I wasn't paying attention, but there are a lot of rifles in it so I guess this works:rolleyes:

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CWL
June 15, 2007, 02:03 AM
I have lived and worked in the south of France and I have no problems dis'ing them.

They can be very pro-gun rights though.

roscoe
June 15, 2007, 03:55 AM
Much more so than the British. 'Liberte' still has meaning in France, even if they do annoy us perodically by daring to not do what we want them to.

lathedog
June 15, 2007, 02:55 PM
I'm often guilty of bashing on the Frenchies, but...

They fought really quite hard in many wars. Not necessarily with the best equipment or operational strategy or whatever, but they have been very innovative overall.

They took massive casualties in 1940 as did the Germans. A closer read of what actually happened does not make them look like "surrender monkeys" at all. Neither does a close read of their battlefield performance in WWI.

However, I still have to wonder about a film depicting French soldiers in WWII with the word "Glory" in the title. They took a pasting, lost half their country in a few weeks, then the other half became an ally of the invader. I hope nothing like that ever happens to us.

I guess I need to see this film.

SSN Vet
June 15, 2007, 03:24 PM
My wife loves foreign films wit sub titles...:rolleyes:

..maybe this one has something in it for me to ;)

does anyone know what became of the French soldiers who surrendered in 1940?

Were they interned for 5 years? If so, was it in Germany or France?

My understanding is that the western European POW's faired 100X better than those in the east. I guess the westerners were on the acceptable side of Hitler's color bar.

barman
June 18, 2007, 01:16 PM
This movie is pure revisionnist crap.

It is based on the story of colonial soldiers from Algeria and morrocco being drafted to serve under the Free French army during the allied invasion of 1944.
The intent of the movie was to praise our (sadly) important immigrant population from North Africa, supposedly victim of islamophobia or just plain racism based on skin color. The director wanted the native population of France to feel ashamed and grateful towards their colonies for having liberated them.

So far, praising colonial soldiers is fine with me. What pisses me off the most though is the ultra left-wing "guilt trip" ideology that permeates this movie.

The usual crap that left wingers say in defense of immigration from the 3rd world is that France had no shame about sending its colonial soldiers to the front line before anyone else went. That bull**** propaganda is also present in the film.

The truth is that among colonial soldiers, more than 45% of the total were Frenchmen living in Africa as colons. These people represent more than 70% of the death rate for the French colonial army during WW2. So much for that theory about arabs being sent first to combat!
However, Nowhere in this movie can you see a white man in the characters' regiment.

If you want a good war movie involving the French army, try Dien Bien Phu. Superb film shot by a guy from Alsace (Pierre Schoendoerffer) who was there for real in 1954, fighting the viets.

Although the movie is about a defeat (which I'm sure is going to make you laugh your asses off, coming from a French guy), It is still a masterpiece of cinematography, acting and historical veracity. The battle scenes are awesome.

Cosmoline
June 18, 2007, 01:21 PM
I really wish there were more quality films about WWI. The only good ones are either generalized anti-war movies that have minimal historical bearing on the actual combat (All Quiet on the Western Front, for example) or take place in far flung corners of the war ("Lawrence of Arabia," "The Lighthorsemen.") Straight-up war films, esp. set among the Frenchmen who did the vast bulk of the fighting in the west, are few and far between. If there are any, they don't seem to have made it stateside. If anyone knows any titles, please share. There's a huge disconnect between the astonishing bravery of the millions of Frenchmen in WWI and our view of the French as "surrender monkeys." There's also virtually no films available here about the intense alpine war between Austro-Hungary and Italy. Indeed I'll wager almost nobody in the US knows even about it. I only learned about it recently. They had trenches on the sides of mountains.

barman
June 18, 2007, 03:58 PM
I really wish there were more quality films about WWI. The only good ones are either generalized anti-war movies that have minimal historical bearing on the actual combat (All Quiet on the Western Front, for example) or take place in far flung corners of the war ("Lawrence of Arabia," "The Lighthorsemen.")



I agree with you Cosmoline.
Have you seen Jean Pierre Jeunet's "A Very Long Engagement"? This is not a straight war movie as you want to find, but it's a pretty damn good film centered around WW1.

The story is about a girl named Mathilde whose boyfriend was sentenced to die on the No Man's Land because he self-mutilated in order to escape the battle of the Somme. In 1919, she goes on a quest to discover if he really did die this day or if he may have survived somehow. There are lots of battle scenes and the movie depicts life in the trenches with talent.
I highly recommend it as it is available with English subtitles.

barman
June 18, 2007, 04:08 PM
Here is a short extract: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VfNoJ6gd2kk

nwilliams
June 18, 2007, 04:28 PM
I agree with you Barman, but we're not really critiquing the movie, this thread was about the guns in the movie. You can find plenty of critiques about the movie online and there are a lot of mixed feelings about it out there.

The movie had many flaws which is why I didn't really go into any of the movie aspects other than to mention there were some neat milsurps in it. The acting was pretty good and the cinematography was nice. There were definitely aspects of the film that were not historically accurate and revisionist as you say, but I was just watching for the guns and the battle scenes. I was pissed that they skipped over that whole battle scene in the forest. You see them running into battle and the next scene its all over with.

I really didn't like the ending, it was trying too hard to make the audience feel guilty, and Days of Glory certainly didn't seem to be a fitting title.

barman
June 18, 2007, 04:36 PM
I was pissed that they skipped over that whole battle scene in the forest. You see them running into battle and the next scene its all over with.

Lol, that annoyed me too. Otherwise, you're right about the acting and the cinematography being good for such a small budget.

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