Best States to own a Firearm!


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Nomad101bc
June 15, 2007, 07:46 PM
To counter my other post I thought id try to figure out the best states to own a firearm. For this poll I included many more states since the data is more about finding several of the most pro gun states. Also sorry if i exlcuded your states thiers only 16 slots.

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GlenJ
June 15, 2007, 07:56 PM
I have to vote for Virginia. About the only bad gun law we have is one handgun a month unless you have a concealed carry permit or it's a private sale. I grew up in NY state and I have family in CA. My family members from both states can not believe that I can buy a handgun with just the handing over of money and the shake of a hand.

Nomad101bc
June 15, 2007, 07:58 PM
Then why did you pick nevada because you can buy machine guns there?

skidooman
June 15, 2007, 08:03 PM
I picked Nevada. because i love it here.
No limit on gun purchases.
Shall issue
open carry
not one law about transport of firearms in cars.
plus more but im drawing a blank.

Nomad101bc
June 15, 2007, 08:08 PM
Well missouri is certainly a very hunting friendly state but compared to oklahoma or nevada i dont see how it would earn a vote.

davera
June 15, 2007, 08:12 PM
Well - Alabama is pretty easy. CCW isn't shall issue by law but I think it pretty much is by practice. People don't freak out when you talk guns.

Babarsac
June 15, 2007, 08:16 PM
Go Virginia!

JLelli
June 15, 2007, 08:30 PM
As far as laws are concerned, it is hard to beat Vermont. Concealed carry with no permit, no permits needed for anything, and the state does not participate in NICS. Pretty much the only knock againt VT gun laws is a ban on sound supressors, mainly to prevent poaching. Alaska is close to Vermont in laws (they allow supressors, but also participate in NICS), and Alaskan culture is probably more gun-friendly than Vermonter culture, even if they are close. Also, lots of empty land in AK = lots of places to shoot.

akuoduck
June 15, 2007, 08:34 PM
I have to agree, Alaska is a great place to own a firearm. Lots of public land, not alot of people, guns are a culture all to themselves.

Now that I live in Idaho, it's not bad here either, but it's no Alaska.

Zundfolge
June 15, 2007, 08:35 PM
Both your polls are screwy.

You put Colorado on the list of "bad" states and not on the list of "good" states.

Colorado is a better state for gun owners than Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Virginia or Pennsylvania if by "good" you mean lax gun laws and easy to get CCW without a bunch of stupid restrictions.

Autolycus
June 15, 2007, 09:04 PM
PA has almost no gun laws compared to other states. Carry just about anywhere and almost no off limits places.

SomeKid
June 15, 2007, 09:28 PM
Voted TN for ownership.

Technically, a state with no sales tax is the best. Either way, it is good to be a Tennessean.

Cosmoline
June 15, 2007, 09:31 PM
You Left Off Alaska!

hrgrisso
June 15, 2007, 09:35 PM
No limit on # of purchases
SBR and Silencers
Machine Gun Friendly
Shall Issue
Shooting ok on public lands (except national forests... and state land trust)
No State AWB
Castle Doctrine

The only bad law is the no carrying into establisments serving liquor. And since I don't drink that ones kindof a :cuss:

Marshall
June 15, 2007, 09:37 PM
OK, who voted for Kansas? I know, you just clicked sumpin to see the poll results. :p

Oklahoma's aren't too bad in comparison to a lot of states. I'm from here and I didn't vote for OK.

samtechlan
June 15, 2007, 09:47 PM
It has to be Vermont. No permit needed to carry concealed or open and a state where even liberals like Howard Dean dare not push gun control.

Avenger29
June 15, 2007, 09:55 PM
Why isn't SC on the list? We have pretty good firearm laws.

Ratzinger_p38
June 15, 2007, 09:57 PM
Ohio is now better than Virginia IMO with no one gun a month rule.

jselvy
June 15, 2007, 10:16 PM
Wyoming--easy gun laws and no **********nistas

Jefferson

Elza
June 15, 2007, 10:23 PM
I know, I know. There are better gun states than Texas but it ain't bad. And I am a Texican, afterall.

kcmarine
June 15, 2007, 10:27 PM
Mi-zoo-rah.


More state- operated gun ranges than you can shake a stick at, good hunter's resources, and our gun and self- defense rights are moving towards they should be.

And we have Lake City.:D


Plus, no more One- Term Bob.

Mousegun
June 15, 2007, 11:08 PM
I live in Tennessee but did not vote for it because of too many restrictions like no carry in restaurants that serve and questionable park carry.

Also, a business can post a sign and get you in a world of hurt if you are caught in there carrying. They effectively write the law by being allowed to post and have it stand up as law.

The libs in Memphis seem to be making sure it stays that way.

The restaurant thing is a difficulty because there are more restaurants (and good ones) here in east Tennessee per capita than most anywhere else and everyone goes out to eat on any night of the week. I don't like being unarmed when out with wifey at any time. HELL, I don't like being unarmed anywhere or time.

Kali Endgame
June 15, 2007, 11:15 PM
Nevada.
Open carry, ccw, most of the land is public, we can shoot in our national forest, fun switch, not very many people live were I am, and last, but certainly not least, I've escaped from California.:neener:

cbsbyte
June 15, 2007, 11:27 PM
Alaska is the best state to own a firearm in, but Vermont is a close second.

IN>IL
June 15, 2007, 11:28 PM
Indiana

RevolvingCylinder
June 15, 2007, 11:30 PM
It's a toss-up between Alaska and Vermont. I vote Vermont though since it's an option and I'm moving there.:D

Nomad101bc
June 16, 2007, 12:43 AM
Ahh but alaska you have a ton of restrictions on what you can shoot. So if a resturant post no open carry can you still concealed carry in Tennese?

The Real Wyatt
June 16, 2007, 12:53 AM
I didn't vote.
You left Kentucky outta the poll.
Why?
Kentucky is absolutely the BEST state for firearms ownership.
Shame on you.

I live in Kentucky.
I have a permit to carry a concealed deadly weapon.
It doesn't specify what that weapon might be.
I can carrry concealed a revolver if I want to.
I can carrry concealed a semi auto if I want to.
I can carrry concealed a sword if I want to.
I can carrry concealed a club if I want to.
I can carrry concealed a pair of brass knuckles if I want to.
I can carrry concealed any deadly weapon I care to carry.

Does it get any better than that? Where else do you have that kind of freedom?
Freedom still exists in rural America.

Nomad101bc
June 16, 2007, 01:03 AM
Be reasonable i had only 16 options and only 1/5 of all the states suck for gun rights.

ptmmatssc
June 16, 2007, 05:20 AM
Wish Maine were added . Only real "restriction" has to do with loaded firearms in a vehicle . And that has to do more with the hunting laws to prevent poaching . Other than that ,

shall issue
open carry
no gun limits
no waiting periods
no foid(or whatever they call em )
no bans
legal MG and silencers per fed laws
and even gun clubs are immune from closure and lawsuits (for noise) as long as they been open for 5 years or more .

Nematocyst
June 16, 2007, 05:25 AM
You've all missed the point.

The obvious answer is,

Any state.

Come on, folks.
Get with it.

:neener: :p ;)

RKBA.

Zeke Menuar
June 16, 2007, 12:57 PM
Where's Oregon

Shall issue CCW
All NFA toys (I think)
No limits on gun purchases
No stupid waiting periods

ZM

JLelli
June 16, 2007, 02:00 PM
How can anyone vote Virginia as the best state to own a gun, when they have a "one handgun a month" law? Handgun laws here in Michigan are pretty cruddy (purchase permits and "safety inspections"), but at least we can buy more than one per month.

SolaScriptura139
June 16, 2007, 02:06 PM
West Virginia (unfortunately left off the list, I understand though with the poll restraints). Shall Issue, Open carry with no license, no limits or waiting periods, no registration, no awb ban, Castle Doctrine, so on and so forth.

Autolycus
June 16, 2007, 03:10 PM
It depends to much on the criteria you set? Off limits places? Number of guns per month? What you can carry? Open and concealed carry? It varies depending on what you are looking for.

Cosmoline
June 16, 2007, 03:14 PM
Ahh but alaska you have a ton of restrictions on what you can shoot.

WRONG! Those CCW restrictions were done away with ages ago. Plus, we now have Vermont carry--a provision introduced by a liberal Democrat.

Name another state where folks jog in parks next to big cities while carrying loaded shotguns.

scurtis_34471
June 16, 2007, 04:30 PM
All of you who picked Vermont forgot about one thing. There is no CCW reciprocity between Vermont and any other state, largely because Vermont does not require permits. Florida, on the other hand, has a permit recognized by over 30 states.

Deanimator
June 16, 2007, 04:48 PM
Add Ohio.

We just repealed almost every gun law in the state!

tmajors
June 16, 2007, 04:59 PM
I submit Idaho:

http://www.ponderosasports.com/Guard%20Duty%201.JPG

No that isn't me, and yes the picture is blatantly ripped from www.ponderosasports.com. Just thought this would be a good place to post it :)

Car Knocker
June 16, 2007, 05:13 PM
In Utah I can: Walk my grandaughter to school and read her class a book, stop by the polling location to vote, catch light rail uptown, stop in the bank to cash a check, stop in at church to fortify my soul because I'm on my way up to the Capitol to lobby my legislators and buttonhole the Governor, back downtown I stop at a bar for lunch and a short beer, catch light rail up to the hospital for an appointment, walk down to the University for a class I'm taking, catch a bus down to the County Complex to get a building permit, take a walk through the park on my way to the concert hall, and then catch the bus home, all the while legally carrying.

Jorg Nysgerrig
June 16, 2007, 05:20 PM
stop in at church to fortify my soul

You know that depends on the particular church. About 70% of the state can't legally carry at their church of choice. Granted, it is only an infraction and only applies to members of one faith right now, but still, if that's your faith it is a pretty big deal.

But, yeah, Utah probably has some of the best carry laws as far as where you can and can't carry. :)

AntiqueCollector
June 16, 2007, 05:22 PM
All of you who picked Vermont forgot about one thing. There is no CCW reciprocity between Vermont and any other state, largely because Vermont does not require permits. Florida, on the other hand, has a permit recognized by over 30 states.

True but if it's simply a question of which state is the best to live in when it comes to owning firearms, it's a tie between Vermont and Alaska, I think. The Second Ammendment says we have the right to keep and bear arms. VT and AK are the only two states who fully recognize this right to the point of not even requiring permits or licenses to carry however you want to carry.

Whether or not you can carry in other states, is another question I think. In that case, Alaska would be the answer because you can get a permit there that is recognized by other states, though I personally wouldn't bother...though I'm not big on traveling.

Car Knocker
June 16, 2007, 05:41 PM
You know that depends on the particular church. About 70% of the state can't legally carry at their church of choice.
The point I was making is that carry in churches is legal - unless the church makes an effort to prohibit carry. I do find it fascinating that the LDS Church only distributed that letter in Utah and, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't prohibit carry in its buildings in any other state where it would be legal to carry.

arctictom
June 16, 2007, 07:22 PM
+1 on Alaska , no permit required for ccw, no hassle open carry, and places to shoot. etc

jselvy
June 16, 2007, 07:26 PM
tmajors,

I love that picture. If that isn't the summation of the RKBA I don't know what is.

Jefferson

eric_t12
June 16, 2007, 07:30 PM
No love for SD :(

ME NO VO-TIN!

JLelli
June 16, 2007, 11:44 PM
^I'm also suprised none of the Dakotas got in, either, especially South Dakota. Very few laws + lots of empty public land in which to shoot + gun-firenly culture = good state for RKBA.

scurtis_34471
June 17, 2007, 12:06 AM
The problem with Alaska is that you have to live in Alaska. Cold. Remote. Really Cold. Remote. Mosquitos the size of birds. Very little in the way of civilization (can be a plus or a minus, depenting on preference). Did I mention cold? Expensive, because its so remote.

RancidSumo
June 17, 2007, 01:01 AM
WYOMING!!!
Can anyone think of a single bad gun law in Wyoming? The only thing that isn't as good as some other states is you have to have a permit to conceled carry but anyone who wants one can get one.

BIG BEAR
June 17, 2007, 01:53 AM
:D EVEN us CANADIANS can carry in VERMONT. (I lived in CHARLOTTE) just outside of BURLINGTON as a kid. lived in IDAHO a dozen years ago,pretty good too. But WASHINGTON STATE is a ccw friendly state too, as far as CANADIANS go. Still need my ATF #6 (NEW PERMIT) but if one has no criminal background, its not a problem. BIG BEAR

stevelyn
June 17, 2007, 03:15 AM
Shhhhhhhhh...............What?:eek: Do you want them all moving up here and crowding the place?:uhoh:

:evil::evil::evil:

The problem with Alaska is you have to live in Alaska. Cold. Remote. Really cold. Remote. Mosquitoes the size of birds. Very little in the way of civilization (can be a plus or minus depending on preference). Did I mention cold? Expensive because it's so remote.

Yeah.........What he said.:D

BTW, who are you to say we're not civilized??:scrutiny:















:neener::neener:

Cosmoline
June 17, 2007, 03:16 AM
The problem with Alaska is that you have to live in Alaska. Cold. Remote. Really Cold.

Yeah, it's so cold today I'm sweating with the fan on. Don't believe everything you hear about Alaska. The weather in SE is similar to the Washington coast, and the weather up here in SC is excellent. Long, LONG summer days with tons of sunshine and crisp winters. The midwest gets worse winters than we do. Besides--who's afraid of a little snow?

There's not as much civilization as the lower 48, but since when is that a bad thing? And there's always Los Anchorage. COL is about the same as Seattle unless you're way out in the bush.

The mosquitoes can get big, but they're also slow and tend to stick around boggy areas. I've never had much trouble with them. The biting flies are vastly worse.

Anyway, I submit that any poll asking for which is the best gun state that fails to list AK is BOGUS. I demand a new thread!! And I am unanimous in that.

Jeff
June 17, 2007, 03:36 AM
Vermont is so incredibly strange in that we can carry anything we want-- concealed or exposed-- without a permit, yet the place is crawling with bona fide Socialists everywhere you go. It is surreal.

It's a specific strain of Socialism, however, more akin to Scandinavian-Economic-Bucolic Marxism, than to big city autocrat fascism.

Nematocyst
June 17, 2007, 03:47 AM
The problem with Alaska is you have to live in Alaska. Cold. Remote. Really cold. Remote.Remote is a positive.

As for "cold", not for much longer.

ArfinGreebly
June 17, 2007, 03:48 AM
I can't vote for Alaska, 'cuz it's not on the list.

I can't vote for Idaho, 'cuz it's not on the list.

I don't have any real acquaintance with the other states.

Well, Arizona, but it has a location problem that affects it's lower border. Some kind of fungus thing.

So, all said and done, I'll go with where I live.

Nevada: Open Carry, Shall Issue, open range, serious hunting.

It may not be perfect, but we only have RKBA enemies along one border. The other surrounding states are friendlies.

mike101
June 17, 2007, 09:28 AM
I object! I don't see New Jersey on the list. ;)

trueg50
June 18, 2007, 11:06 AM
Definitely Vermont!

I love being able to carry (always in the woods, not into "civilization") with out a permit. the only law restricting caliber is that you must use a 22 rimfire, or number 2 shot or smaller on raccoons. I walk into a gun store and the owner lets you (for a price I think) try the gun out by taking it out back and taking a shot! Lets see that in California!

All of the laws are also fair, for example, cross bows can only be used to hunt if you are disabled and apply for a permit, anything that "threatens your property" can be shot on sight. Not to mention how I can go to a boy scout camp and watch all of the Massachusetts's troops jaws drop when we tell them that any one can shoot the 22's, no cost, no permit; then hear how they need a permit to shoot/handle a gun, then another for "high capacity" meaning over 10 (?) rounds, then one for a shotgun.

1BLINDREF
June 18, 2007, 11:16 AM
You left out NJ??? :neener::neener::neener::neener:

JohnBT
June 18, 2007, 12:34 PM
Vermont? The weather's better in Virginia and the laws aren't too bad. John

trueg50
June 19, 2007, 08:48 AM
yes, and I guess we have a shorter tourist season too ;) but I never have to worry about snakes, spiders, ticks at least (which I keep telling my self every time we get a week when it is 5 below zero, or the weather ruins my range plans).

We also have an interesting mix of peoples here, some die heart liberals, some die heart conservatives. I keep a 10/22 near the back door in case I see any coyotes in the neighborhood. It is an excellent way to decide who is who. for example a conservative will walk over and take a look, maybe pick it up and say "fun little gun, huh?" or "nice rifle" a liberal wouldn't touch it with a ten foot stick, and will say "what is that for?" followed by the inevitable, "could you kill some one with that?". This also has the added side effect of who gets what size portions of cake when desert rolls around ;)

Juna
June 19, 2007, 12:02 PM
I wager Alaska is pretty good, too.

heypete
June 19, 2007, 12:42 PM
Shooting ok on public lands (except national forests... and state land trust)

Actually, you can shoot in National Forests. You cannot shoot in National Parks, which I find silly.

I actually got some Smokey The Bear keychains from the friendly National Forest Service Ranger who stopped by to say hello when my Class III dealer and I were shooting suppressed and unsuppressed full-auto guns on public land. I was very pleasantly impressed with her professionalism.

The only bad law is the no carrying into establisments serving liquor. And since I don't drink that ones kindof a :cuss:

While one can argue the point about carrying in bars (I support it, so long as the person carrying doesn't drink), I think it's outrageous that one is prohibited from carrying a firearm at a regular restaurant simply because there's alcohol served on the premises -- my girlfriend and I can't carry when we go to Red Lobster, Texas Roadhouse, or other restaurants even if we're not drinking. :fire:

ancient_philosophy
June 19, 2007, 03:20 PM
someone is INSANE for not putting KENTUCKY on the list.


kentucky is the most LOOSE state for doing what-the-heck-ever with class III machineguns.

etc etc.


there is NO state more gun-friendly than KY :D

pablo45
June 19, 2007, 03:32 PM
dude, Where is new mexico on there? Open carry and ccw permits without limitation on caliber or amount. You should of added them to the poll. They are the only state that has a governor with a ccw permit.:)

arctictom
June 19, 2007, 04:07 PM
Alaska is very very cold and extremely remote , no one should live here , and don't visit , nothing to see here.

And I am the head of the Alaskans for Global warming committee.

Car Knocker
June 19, 2007, 04:43 PM
They are the only state that has a governor with a ccw permit.
Actually, Jon Huntsman, Governor of Utah, stated a couple of years ago that he had a CCW permit.

Titan6
June 19, 2007, 06:14 PM
Many states have govenor's with CHLs now.

Valkman
June 19, 2007, 09:51 PM
And the big thing about NV is we have no stupid alcohol/restaurant restrictions, and carrying concealed in casinos is OK - just don't let them see it.

Who has more BLM land than NV? I have to go maybe a mile to shoot. :)

jrfoxx
June 19, 2007, 09:53 PM
What, no Oregon? No "1 gun a month" laws, no paperwork for FTF sales, suppressos and MG's legal, open carry without a permit everywhere except a few cities, and with the permit, its legal everywhere.We can carry in schools, bars, govt. buldings (except courthouses), Permits are fast and cheap (2 weeks and $65, only downside is "proof of handgun safety training" for the initial permit, but that's easy enough).For a heavily Dem. state, we got it much better than most....

Nematocyst
June 19, 2007, 10:46 PM
Who has more BLM land than NV? Last time I checked, nearly 60% of NV was actually BLM.
Which, I guess means that the feds own more of NV than NV does.

But it all works out OK, cause NV can shoot on that land.

Awesome land it is, too.
I'm very fond of NV landscapes ...

Alphazulu6
June 20, 2007, 01:48 AM
Ok is this some kind of joke? You left out Montana and Colorado.

Plumber576
June 20, 2007, 03:35 AM
How ISN''T Ohio on this list. OGCA alone plus the new CHL law should be reason enough.

trueg50
June 20, 2007, 08:11 AM
how about because vermont has not one of the laws you are all talking about, Oregon may have a quick $65 permit, but in vermont you can carry everywhere, no permit. For all intense purposes vermont has no gun laws, the usual background check when you purchase, and no guns in federal buildings, (but that applies to all states) and thats it.

The thing I do enjoy very much about Vermont is that virtually all of the socialists (no lie, there are some seriously wacko socialists around here) are located in the cities, ie Burlington. Go on any back road away from any town, and nothing but pro-gun people.

On second thought, vermont is a terrible place none of you should move here! Right Jeff?

Kentak
June 20, 2007, 09:17 AM
Ummmm, how are we to answer the question unless we have lived in a great many different states? Most of us don't have extensive knowledge of the laws (and implementation) of all the states.

But, what the heck, I'll vote for Ohio.

K

WoofersInc
June 20, 2007, 11:12 AM
Quote:
Who has more BLM land than NV?

Last time I checked, nearly 60% of NV was actually BLM.
Which, I guess means that the feds own more of NV than NV does.

But it all works out OK, cause NV can shoot on that land.

Awesome land it is, too.
I'm very fond of NV landscapes ...

And the Gov just signed a reciprocity bill. Now we just have to see what states they will allow.

Sharps-shooter
June 20, 2007, 08:49 PM
Kentucky-- Open cary with state pre-emption of all local gun laws (gold star on opencarry.com)

Shall issue CCW

Gun-friendly culture (rednecks) even in the "big cities", which aren't that big.

Loose hunting laws (can hunt deer with an Ar15, for instance)

Stand your ground/castle doctrine laws, with no possibility of civil suits if you kill someone who needs it

Cheap guns and ammo, no waiting periods, buy as many as you want

MGs are legal and LEO chiefs in at least some areas are helpful about the paperwork.

One of a few states that has a type of rifle named after it.

Lots of places to go shooting.

scurtis_34471
June 20, 2007, 09:26 PM
Florida:

Stand Your Ground Law: Anyone forcibly entering your home, car or business is presumed to be a threat to your life. You have no duty to retreat if attacked anywhere.

"No Guns" signs carry little weight. The only thing they do is give the business that posts them the right to ask you to leave. If you refuse to leave, you can be charged with trespassing. If you carry and nobody notices, you are not breaking any laws.

Great reciprosity with other states. Only Texas and Utah are as good.

No high-cap or "assault weapon" bans. If its ok by Federal law, its ok by state law.

No waiting period for any gun if you have a concealed weapons license.

You can carry in state parks and national forests.

Bars are off limits, but restaurants that serve alcohol are not.

There seem to be a decent number of shooting ranges. I have at least four within an hour of my house and two within 30 minutes.

There is no local preemption.

Limeyfellow
June 21, 2007, 03:28 AM
Vermont is a nice place for firearms rights. Second to only Alaska in my opinion. Have to love a place where you require no permit to conceal carry or open carry. You can own class 3 firearms, noise suppressors, sbrs with just the standard federal laws in place. Add to that no wait times, no having to inform police officers you are armed, no limits on the types or amount of firearms you can buy. Transfer of firearms between residents can be done without any paperwork, its hard to find a lower 48 state that really compares.

I need to buy a house there for March and early April when my hayfever kicks in and bug out before it gets that north.

JackW
June 21, 2007, 03:42 AM
Another vote for KY.
Come on, where's the love for the Bluegrass State?

And some of you Ohioans should compare your gun laws to what Kentucky has. I know that you have been making progress, but there is still lots of room for improvement (one that really burns me up is no carry in the freeway rest area buildings)

gunsmith
June 21, 2007, 03:50 AM
because we can carry rifles in our cars/trucks.
VT has some dumb rule to prevent poaching that prohibits easy access to rifles in your car.
afaik.

FireArmFan
June 21, 2007, 04:02 AM
well I know it not on the list (i understand you only get 16 slots) but the only state i can vouch for is Minnesota since it's the only state i have ever lived in. It's a pretty gun friendly state. No supressors is the only big restriction i can think of. No handgun monthly limit. Shall Issue. Open carry allowed. Good hunting land. Minneapolis is somewhat anti gun but outside of the city it's not too bad.

Lew
June 21, 2007, 04:45 AM
You left out Montana and Colorado.

Well, there's a much better state that he didn't leave out... :-)

pablo45
June 21, 2007, 11:31 PM
Why isn't there a non-gun law state? Why are there so many law's and nit-picking on all the gun's out there? There is not one place around my city I can actually go shoot at. There is a b.s. indoor range in the city that charges 20.00 to shoot in a horrible lighting area. You have to buy there ammo. $23.00for a box of 50 9mm's. No rifles. No shotguns. No big bores over a .45. No holsters. That is right no holsters. You have to keep your gun in a box the whole time. No drills. No rapid fire. The nearest spot I can go is about 50 miles south. I'll cross my finger's that does not change.

AntiqueCollector
June 22, 2007, 04:30 PM
because we can carry rifles in our cars/trucks.
VT has some dumb rule to prevent poaching that prohibits easy access to rifles in your car.
afaik.
They simply have to be unloaded. The ammo and gun can be sitting right by you within reach, and it's legal. And it doesn't apply to handguns (basically, a really stupid and useless anti-poaching law that has no real effect on anything, and most of the cops couldn't care less about enforcing it unless you're up to no good anyways, may not be too hard to get rid of if we ever get a better make up in the legislature, they've been too busy this year debating impeachment of the president. Same with the silencer ban which carries a whopping $25 state fine, showing how important they consider it, just need a good lobbying effort when a good chance arises).

Nomad101bc
June 23, 2007, 11:54 PM
VT seems to be one of the most pro-gun states sorry about Kentucky but I only have 16 options. What do you need silencers for anyhow?

jselvy
June 24, 2007, 09:41 AM
To protect my hearing

Jefferson

defjon
June 24, 2007, 10:22 PM
I say Illinois is the best state to own a firearm.

Why? Because then you're bucking the tide, and you start to really not take for granted that 2nd ammendment! You start to appreciate your civic duty. There is a lot of work here for gun owners!

eldon519
June 24, 2007, 10:24 PM
Georgia,

In the city I am from, it is the law that your household has to have and maintain a gun with ammo.

blackcharlie
June 24, 2007, 10:49 PM
florida is great but i fear for the future

Car Knocker
June 24, 2007, 10:54 PM
In the city I am from, it is the law that your household has to have and maintain a gun with ammo.
Those "laws" are cute but they are not enforceable.

JLelli
June 24, 2007, 11:45 PM
because we can carry rifles in our cars/trucks.
VT has some dumb rule to prevent poaching that prohibits easy access to rifles in your car.
afaik.


NV has some dumb rule where you need to get the state's permission to carry a pistol under your jacket.;)

eldon519
June 25, 2007, 01:17 AM
I guess those "cute laws" were scary enough to criminals to lower burglary rates 89% in seven months.

pablo45
June 25, 2007, 06:50 AM
What do you need silencers for anyhow?


Why not? That is what I ask. If you can own a gun, you shold not be limited by the accessories and extras you can have.

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