DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 07:42 PM
Afghanistan isn't much better.......... but they don't pump oil!
Don
Don
We've got a guerrilla war in Iraq!
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Croyance
June 24, 2003, 07:53 PM
You have to assume even those who were against Iraq would be against us.
Nobody like military occupation, not even by their own military.
Nobody like military occupation, not even by their own military.
Boats
June 24, 2003, 08:10 PM
Guess what?
The guerillas have a ready made base of support right here on the American Left.:scrutiny:
The guerillas have a ready made base of support right here on the American Left.:scrutiny:
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 08:16 PM
The guerillas have a ready made base of support right here on the American Left.
That's a bit over the top, boats! I haven't seen the "left" here applauding attacks against coalition forces. YOU? :confused:
Don
That's a bit over the top, boats! I haven't seen the "left" here applauding attacks against coalition forces. YOU? :confused:
Don
El Tejon
June 24, 2003, 08:40 PM
As some have said before the war (disclaimer, it was me), attacks will continue for a while. Some people just dig totalitarianism or don't like the fact that their clan will be on the bottom of the pole next shuffle.
The Nazi Werewolves were active until '47. The hotheads, from Iraq and all over God's Monkey House, will be around for a while until we do the right thing and kill them.
The Nazi Werewolves were active until '47. The hotheads, from Iraq and all over God's Monkey House, will be around for a while until we do the right thing and kill them.
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 08:47 PM
The Nazi Werewolves were active until '47.El Tejon
I don't think this is a guerrilla war sponsored by the Baath Party.
Don
I don't think this is a guerrilla war sponsored by the Baath Party.
Don
Thumper
June 24, 2003, 08:48 PM
applauding attacks against coalition forces
How ironic.
Don, how would YOU characterize the initiation of this thread? Still trying to prove your "point?"
How ironic.
Don, how would YOU characterize the initiation of this thread? Still trying to prove your "point?"
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 08:52 PM
Don, how would YOU characterize the initiation of this thread? - Ronnie
Uh....... because it is the reality of the situation?!!!! :rolleyes:
Don
Uh....... because it is the reality of the situation?!!!! :rolleyes:
Don
El Tejon
June 24, 2003, 08:59 PM
Don,
I do. Clan Tikriti al-Saddam IS the Baath Party.
Freelancing Islamic hotheads are another matter. You have to get to the source for them. Good thing we are in excellent position for the next battles!:)
I do. Clan Tikriti al-Saddam IS the Baath Party.
Freelancing Islamic hotheads are another matter. You have to get to the source for them. Good thing we are in excellent position for the next battles!:)
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 09:06 PM
Clan Tikriti al-Saddam IS the Baath Party. El Tejon
The Baath Party was responsible for the attacks against the Brits yesterday?!! :rolleyes:
Don
The Baath Party was responsible for the attacks against the Brits yesterday?!! :rolleyes:
Don
cuchulainn
June 24, 2003, 09:12 PM
Well, I suppose that booing the visiting team technically is not the same thing as applauding the home team.
Maybe you have good reasons to boo the visiting team ... boo the visiting team all you want ... but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to the home team.
Maybe you have good reasons to boo the visiting team ... boo the visiting team all you want ... but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to the home team.
Thumper
June 24, 2003, 09:17 PM
Well, I suppose that booing the visiting team technically is not the same thing as applauding the home team.
Maybe you have good reasons to boo the visiting team ... boo the visiting team all you want ... but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to the home team.
Beat me to it, but well said...
Maybe you have good reasons to boo the visiting team ... boo the visiting team all you want ... but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to the home team.
Beat me to it, but well said...
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 09:20 PM
Well, I suppose that booing the visiting team technically is not the same thing as applauding the home team. cuchulainn
Oh! I didnt realize it was a 'game'! Jolly Good! We won! :D
But....... what did we win, cuchulainn??!!! :confused:
Don
Oh! I didnt realize it was a 'game'! Jolly Good! We won! :D
But....... what did we win, cuchulainn??!!! :confused:
Don
cuchulainn
June 24, 2003, 09:27 PM
It was an analogy. :rolleyes:
You may be morally justified in attacking our side, but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to other side.
You may be morally justified in attacking our side, but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to other side.
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 09:30 PM
OK, you guys! How would you STOP A GUERRILLA war in Iraq?!!
It's already started! How do you stop it?!!
Don
It's already started! How do you stop it?!!
Don
Thumper
June 24, 2003, 09:34 PM
Hahahahah...c'mon, Don...Disappointed because we won a lot sooner than you predicted at TFL?
VERY strange...all your posts are gone from TFL.
For some reason, your user name shows ZERO posts.
Does anyone else find that telling?
VERY strange...all your posts are gone from TFL.
For some reason, your user name shows ZERO posts.
Does anyone else find that telling?
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 09:48 PM
Hahahahah...c'mon, Don...Disappointed because we won a lot sooner than you predicted at TFL?
Hey, actually ...... I predicted the declared "military victory" a couple of months before it actually happened. I also predicted the date of the initiation of the war to within TWO WEEKS before it actually started!
Contact Mr. Lucibelle, maybe he can reconstruct my posts! :D
Don
Hey, actually ...... I predicted the declared "military victory" a couple of months before it actually happened. I also predicted the date of the initiation of the war to within TWO WEEKS before it actually started!
Contact Mr. Lucibelle, maybe he can reconstruct my posts! :D
Don
DonQatU
June 24, 2003, 10:02 PM
Ronnie, this isn't really about "knowing more than you"! It's about the hole we've (the US) have dug ourselves into! Let's STOP DIGGING!
If you can restore my posts from the old TFL, I would appreciate it!
Don
If you can restore my posts from the old TFL, I would appreciate it!
Don
Thumper
June 24, 2003, 10:58 PM
Ronnie, this isn't really about "knowing more than you"!
You lost me on that one...
Anyway, check your PMs.
You lost me on that one...
Anyway, check your PMs.
SodaPop
June 24, 2003, 11:13 PM
I also predicted the date of the initiation of the war to within TWO WEEKS before it actually started!
But I still won $5 off of you because you were TWO WEEKS OFF!!:neener:
I still can't believe we invaded a country with and expected to occupy it with less than 100,000 troops.
That's a bit over the top, boats! I haven't seen the "left" here applauding attacks against coalition forces. YOU?
But the vocal opposition of so many in the EU and UN hasn't caused mass surrendering like there was during Desert Storm.
The Iraqi's don't know they've been beaten.
I think we've walked into the hornets nest unless we are willing to take on Iran.
But I still won $5 off of you because you were TWO WEEKS OFF!!:neener:
I still can't believe we invaded a country with and expected to occupy it with less than 100,000 troops.
That's a bit over the top, boats! I haven't seen the "left" here applauding attacks against coalition forces. YOU?
But the vocal opposition of so many in the EU and UN hasn't caused mass surrendering like there was during Desert Storm.
The Iraqi's don't know they've been beaten.
I think we've walked into the hornets nest unless we are willing to take on Iran.
HBK
June 24, 2003, 11:45 PM
We did the right thing. Iran and Syria should be next. As far as the "guerilla war" goes, we win it by killing all the guerillas. It never ceases to amaze me how liberals always line up on the wrong side of history. Give them a choice between the US and our enemies and they will side with our enemies every time.
John G
June 25, 2003, 12:03 AM
Yes!! I love these "trolling for an argument" threads. Nothing gets accomplished, but it's fun to watch!
Destructo6
June 25, 2003, 12:56 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how liberals always line up on the wrong side of history. Give them a choice between the US and our enemies and they will side with our enemies every time.
That's standard for "progressives." Support any enemy of capitalism. Read Nechaev's The Catechism of the Revolutionary c 1868. Here's the first sentance of Paragraph 13:
The revolutionary joins the state, society, and so-called civilized world and lives in it only for the purpose of its more total and speedier destruction.
There's 26 paragraphs with similarly alarming passages.
That's standard for "progressives." Support any enemy of capitalism. Read Nechaev's The Catechism of the Revolutionary c 1868. Here's the first sentance of Paragraph 13:
The revolutionary joins the state, society, and so-called civilized world and lives in it only for the purpose of its more total and speedier destruction.
There's 26 paragraphs with similarly alarming passages.
Solinvictus70
June 25, 2003, 01:02 AM
It seems that much of the Iraqi resistance is not limited to ex-Baathists, but has spread into the general population. There were 25 attacks today, and according to the US/UK commanders, they seem to have been uncoordinated. This is worse news than if it were former Baathists because it means that there are many more willing to engage in guerilla actions against us. With the caches of small arms and such throughout the country, they will be able to maintain this initiative for a while. Look at the damage and disruption a few well placed sniper attacks can cause to morale and to general operations.
Drjones
June 25, 2003, 01:49 AM
Don't....feed...the....TROLL! :banghead:
bjengs
June 25, 2003, 02:43 AM
You know, DonQatU, this may sound weird coming from me. After all, we agree on the war and a lot of other non-gun issues. And I've even been baited into getting nasty on a few threads, having gotten one shut down and receiving some other warnings.
But could you keep this stuff off of THR? I mean, really! If you're opening up a thread about guerilla war, I expect we'll talk about sniping and tactics. Otherwise, all of us anti-war guys start to chafe against the pro-war guys, and it's really counterproductive. Anti-state.com has a nice forum, they'd love to talk about it. So does strike-the-root.com.
This is a single-issue board. I didn't honor that at first, but I've seen the error of my ways. Perhaps you could respect that as well. This board rocks, it is the most open-minded of all of the gun boards out there and I'd hate to see it all go down the drain over an issue that cannot be reconciled here.
Thanks.
But could you keep this stuff off of THR? I mean, really! If you're opening up a thread about guerilla war, I expect we'll talk about sniping and tactics. Otherwise, all of us anti-war guys start to chafe against the pro-war guys, and it's really counterproductive. Anti-state.com has a nice forum, they'd love to talk about it. So does strike-the-root.com.
This is a single-issue board. I didn't honor that at first, but I've seen the error of my ways. Perhaps you could respect that as well. This board rocks, it is the most open-minded of all of the gun boards out there and I'd hate to see it all go down the drain over an issue that cannot be reconciled here.
Thanks.
S_O_Laban
June 25, 2003, 02:52 AM
Well said bjengs, it looks like you understand what The High Road is all about
Duncan Idaho
June 25, 2003, 03:19 AM
I haven't seen the "left" here applauding attacks against coalition forces.Look in the mirror.
Croyance
June 25, 2003, 03:39 AM
bjengs, you are right. We often forget that the one common denominator here is our interest in guns and gun rights. Beyond that we, as a group, have differing views on politics and religion.
Still, the "if your not with us, you are against us" mentality gets old.
A democracy is an argreement to disagree, to butcher a phrase.
Still, the "if your not with us, you are against us" mentality gets old.
A democracy is an argreement to disagree, to butcher a phrase.
faustulus
June 25, 2003, 03:41 AM
Maybe you have good reasons to boo the visiting team ... boo the visiting team all you want ... but don't pretend that it doesn't lend support to the home team.
So if I boo the home team that means I support the away team? What happens if I boo both teams?
So if I boo the home team that means I support the away team? What happens if I boo both teams?
fallingblock
June 25, 2003, 06:32 AM
Why would you go to the game if you booed both teams?:)
Drjones
June 25, 2003, 11:39 AM
Why would you go to the game if you booed both teams? I was going to say exactly that.
Find a new stadium.
Don and bjengs; it isn't so much an issue of topics; there is a very wide variety of non-gun related topics discussed here.
What's more important is the manner in which they are discussed.
Don is a perfect example of how NOT to behave on THR and in life in general.
Don; do you get hit a lot or called a lot of names during discussions with people in real life? It wouldn't surprise me if you did...:rolleyes:
Don, you clearly are doing no more than trolling with this thread and I really wish you would cut it out.
Find a new stadium.
Don and bjengs; it isn't so much an issue of topics; there is a very wide variety of non-gun related topics discussed here.
What's more important is the manner in which they are discussed.
Don is a perfect example of how NOT to behave on THR and in life in general.
Don; do you get hit a lot or called a lot of names during discussions with people in real life? It wouldn't surprise me if you did...:rolleyes:
Don, you clearly are doing no more than trolling with this thread and I really wish you would cut it out.
Gordon Fink
June 25, 2003, 03:55 PM
This is a single-issue board.
I would have thought that a war fought ostensibly for the cause arms control would be a topic of concern and discussion among gun owners.
~G. Fink
I would have thought that a war fought ostensibly for the cause arms control would be a topic of concern and discussion among gun owners.
~G. Fink
Ol' Badger
June 25, 2003, 04:16 PM
I reconmend we get out know! Let the UN have Iraq. That would be the worst revenge possible on them.
Ol' Badger
June 25, 2003, 04:24 PM
Doc,
Wouldn't it be best to ignor him if you think he's troll'n? Because if he is, you have just gave him the attention he desires! But maybe he's just expressing his opion on the subject. Could he not argue that the Weapon confiscations that "WE" are doing is what caused the whole mess to begin with? IMO You may start your personal attack now!
Wouldn't it be best to ignor him if you think he's troll'n? Because if he is, you have just gave him the attention he desires! But maybe he's just expressing his opion on the subject. Could he not argue that the Weapon confiscations that "WE" are doing is what caused the whole mess to begin with? IMO You may start your personal attack now!
Drjones
June 25, 2003, 04:30 PM
Badger: You are right; I should ignore the troll.
But come on, this is an "opinion"???
We've got a guerrilla war in Iraq!
Afghanistan isn't much better.......... but they don't pump oil!
:rolleyes:
But come on, this is an "opinion"???
We've got a guerrilla war in Iraq!
Afghanistan isn't much better.......... but they don't pump oil!
:rolleyes:
Ol' Badger
June 25, 2003, 05:06 PM
Agree. Not much of one. I just read another thread of his and it's the same thing. I'll not respone anymore.
Sergeant Bob
June 25, 2003, 05:32 PM
You are right; I should ignore the troll.
Not trying to jab at any of you, but it sure took ya'll a long time to figure it out. Most of the time, if I see his name starting a thread, or as the last poster (pretty much every thread he's on since he seems determined to get his post count into the scrillions muy pronto), I don't even open the thread. You can pretty much count on it having degenerated into a circular arguement (to put it nicely;) ), similar to argueing with a small child. As soon as you get involved, you have lost.
Anyone remember...Metallic Kitty? (I hope by invoking his/her name I don't bring the iron feline back:eek: )
Not trying to jab at any of you, but it sure took ya'll a long time to figure it out. Most of the time, if I see his name starting a thread, or as the last poster (pretty much every thread he's on since he seems determined to get his post count into the scrillions muy pronto), I don't even open the thread. You can pretty much count on it having degenerated into a circular arguement (to put it nicely;) ), similar to argueing with a small child. As soon as you get involved, you have lost.
Anyone remember...Metallic Kitty? (I hope by invoking his/her name I don't bring the iron feline back:eek: )
Waitone
June 25, 2003, 05:41 PM
Hey Moderator!
How 'bout shooting this thread in the head. The last one when on far too long before is was closed. This one is headed down the same road.
I'm unsubscribing
How 'bout shooting this thread in the head. The last one when on far too long before is was closed. This one is headed down the same road.
I'm unsubscribing
Cosmoline
June 25, 2003, 06:26 PM
Simple. We declare victory, put some options in front of the Iraqi people, have a vote, and get the heck out of Dodge City. It's their country. If it falls apart, that's their problem.
DonQatU
June 25, 2003, 09:18 PM
Simple. We declare victory, put some options in front of the Iraqi people, have a vote, and get the heck out of Dodge City. It's their country. If it falls apart, that's their problem.
Cosmoline, I pretty much agree with the ideas you posted above! Wasn't that the idea in the first place?!!
Now there's talk of a five-year (or more) occupation.
Don
PS - For those of you who don't like troubling topics, remember.....you don't need to reply them!
Cosmoline, I pretty much agree with the ideas you posted above! Wasn't that the idea in the first place?!!
Now there's talk of a five-year (or more) occupation.
Don
PS - For those of you who don't like troubling topics, remember.....you don't need to reply them!
El Tejon
June 25, 2003, 10:53 PM
Don, there was talk of a 5 year occupation before the war. Look how long it took to civilize the Europeans. It will take a while to give God's Monkey House a good scrubbing as we only have the first layer done.
pax
June 25, 2003, 11:02 PM
And this one is done.
pax
pax
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